SHEA WEBER has signed offer sheet with PHI - Update - Preds match offer sheet

[SLY]

He is a heavyweight possibly going to a "bruiser" style team. I think he'd do just fine there. Which sucks.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Fudge. Here's to hoping he was a product of Suter.

alot of advanced stats show its the other way around but ... we will definitely see this year

 

[mattola]

thinking about this last night. and Im sure a lot agree it really is the most brilliant move that Homer has made should they not match. Getting arguably the best Dman in the NHL for 4 1st round draft picks that will be for sure in the 20 to 30 area and not giving up any roster players is amazing.

then you look at that statement and you KNOW the Preds will match and take their chance on trading him

 

[jstewismybastardson]

lol

W. Brett Wilson - ‏@WBrettWilson
Am aware of Philly offer.

i wanna see him tweet ... "your valuation is nuts"

 

[TOX1]

thinking about this last night. and Im sure a lot agree it really is the most brilliant move that Homer has made should they not match. Getting arguably the best Dman in the NHL for 4 1st round draft picks that will be for sure in the 20 to 30 area and not giving up any roster players is amazing.

then you look at that statement and you KNOW the Preds will match and take their chance on trading him

Yeah.....they just HAVE to match. I freakin hate it, but I def think there is no way that they don't.

Then Homer trades Cooter and 2 1st's for Weber and we are back here again.

 

[mattola]

Yeah.....they just HAVE to match. I freakin hate it, but I def think there is no way that they don't.

Then Homer trades Cooter and 2 1st's for Weber and we are back here again.

wouldn't surprise me but I would think that if Philly wants him that bad they would have to give up even more since they did the offer sheet and Im sure Poile will nail them if he can. they will need a young dman in this return I think

 

[awaz]

thinking about this last night. and Im sure a lot agree it really is the most brilliant move that Homer has made should they not match. Getting arguably the best Dman in the NHL for 4 1st round draft picks that will be for sure in the 20 to 30 area and not giving up any roster players is amazing.

then you look at that statement and you KNOW the Preds will match and take their chance on trading him

not saying the preds wont match, i'm sure they will if they can afford it.. but if they do match, they have to pay him for year 1, why would they in turn, trade him, after they paid out ~25% of the contract?

 

[DChero]

wouldn't surprise me but I would think that if Philly wants him that bad they would have to give up even more since they did the offer sheet and Im sure Poile will nail them if he can. they will need a young dman in this return I think

You don't think this leaves a sour taste in his mouth about dealing with Homer? If I were running the Preds, I wouldn't do anything that would help the Flyers for a long time.

 

[mattola]

You don't think this leaves a sour taste in his mouth about dealing with Homer? If I were running the Preds, I wouldn't do anything that would help the Flyers for a long time.

Depends on the return he would have to be professional about it. dirty for the world but he needs the best return if they dont want to pay him.

 

[mattola]

not saying the preds wont match, i'm sure they will if they can afford it.. but if they do match, they have to pay him for year 1, why would they in turn, trade him, after they paid out ~25% of the contract?

do they for sure have to pay that first year? how does that work?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Elliot Freidman on the radio relaying details of an interview he did with David Poile 15 years ago when Elliot was just breaking into the business

Poile: "if i could do it over again, I would have matched on Scott Stevens. The 5 first round picks werent worth what Scott Stevens brought to the table"

time to do it all over again Mr Poile!!!

 

[awaz]

do they for sure have to pay that first year? how does that work?

well from everything i've read, mostly in here or on the flyers board, is that he's gunna get 1 mil in salary for the first 4 years, but 13 mil in signing bonuses..

the way i read that is he'll get 13 mil on wednesday, 1 mil over the course of the season, and then 13 mil again next july 1st (technical start of the new year)..

so he'll get 27 mil between now and july 1st, 2013.

of course, i could be misinterpreting that, or those numbers could be wrong in the first place, but that's the way i'm seeing it right now

ps. how awesome would it be to go to the bank w/ a 13 million dollar check (cheque) to deposit?

 

[TOX1]

You don't think this leaves a sour taste in his mouth about dealing with Homer? If I were running the Preds, I wouldn't do anything that would help the Flyers for a long time.

You're assuming that Homer has gone about this whole signing deal like a thief in the night. I don't know for sure, but its very likely that Homer has been upfront and honest the whole time with Poile and I'm sure he has given him ample time to work something out with Weber before hand.

Snooze you lose. lol

 

[jstewismybastardson]

well from everything i've read, mostly in here or on the flyers board, is that he's gunna get 1 mil in salary for the first 4 years, but 13 mil in signing bonuses..

the way i read that is he'll get 13 mil on wednesday, 1 mil over the course of the season, and then 13 mil again next july 1st (technical start of the new year)..

so he'll get 27 mil between now and july 1st, 2013.

of course, i could be misinterpreting that, or those numbers could be wrong in the first place, but that's the way i'm seeing it right now

thats right but I think they might be able to trade him next July 1 to avoid the second signing bonus

 

[awaz]

thats right but I think they might be able to trade him next July 1 to avoid the second signing bonus

mm.. i guess that depends on what the definition of 'a year' is in the 'cant trade him for a year clause for RFA's.. if it's a calendar year they'll have to pay it, but if it's a season then they probably can get out of it

 

[mattola]

David Poile was in a TV interview when he got the news apparently. his reaction was below.

 

[mooger_35]

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
If #Preds match #Flyers offer, they must keep him 1 calendar yr before trying to trade him. Oh and pay him 27M in meantime. #nothappening

 

[mattola]

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown
Weber: "I signed long-term with the Flyers because I want to win a Cup, and this seems like the easiest way to wind up doing that in LA."

 

[mattola]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil

 

[dash]

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown
Weber: "I signed long-term with the Flyers because I want to win a Cup, and this seems like the easiest way to wind up doing that in LA."

Oh snap!