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So I"m a little confused about the seedings right now.... If we take care of business next week, what is the mathematical situation for us getting the possible #1 seed ?
 

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We win and either the Cowboys lose OR the Packers/Lions game doesn't end up in a tie and we get the first seed.
 

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If we win we vet the one seed...unless gb det tie
 

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We win and either the Cowboys lose OR the Packers/Lions game doesn't end up in a tie and we get the first seed.

So even if we tie with the Cowboy's at 12-4 we can still get the #1 seed.... That's what I'm confused about... I was under the impression head to head games game into affect there...
 
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So even if we tie with the Cowboy's at 12-4 we can still get the #1 seed even though they beat us head to head earlier in the year ? That's what I'm confused about...

If us and dal are 12-4 we lose head to head.....but since both gb and det have 11 wins as lon as they dont tie...thats a 3 way tie...if we win....we win the 3 team tie breaker
 

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Yes, basically if GB and Det tie that means we are in a head to head with Dallas and they would get the #1 and we would get #2. If Dallas loses and we win, we get #1. If GB and Det don't tie, then there will be a three way tie and we win all those tiebreakers with a better Conference record. You can't use head to head in a 3 way tie.
 

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Dallas wants to win to move up in the seeding and GB wants to win to move up in the seeding, so I don't think there will be any conspiratorial ties to keep us out of the top seed. Also, the Dallas game and the GB/Det game are happening at the same time. Sunday at 10am PST.

We still have to take care of business and just win the division outright. We will know before we play what the other games did.
 

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Yes, basically if GB and Det tie that means we are in a head to head with Dallas and they would get the #1 and we would get #2. If Dallas loses and we win, we get #1. If GB and Det don't tie, then there will be a three way tie and we win all those tiebreakers with a better Conference record. You can't use head to head in a 3 way tie.


Wow that's confusing... But it sound promising for us as long as we take care of business..
 

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Wow that's confusing... But it sound promising for us as long as we take care of business..

Correct. If we win there is literally less than a one percent chance that we don't get HFA.
 

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Correct. If we win there is literally less than a one percent chance that we don't get HFA.


Good deal... Kinda of ironic were playing the Rams again in the last game of the season for possible home field advantage in the playoffs ... Sounds strangely familiar...
 

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Dallas wants to win to move up in the seeding and GB wants to win to move up in the seeding, so I don't think there will be any conspiratorial ties to keep us out of the top seed. Also, the Dallas game and the GB/Det game are happening at the same time. Sunday at 10am PST.

We still have to take care of business and just win the division outright. We will know before we play what the other games did.

Det/GB actually got flexed to 4:25.
 
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Wow that's confusing... But it sound promising for us as long as we take care of business..

As we discussed last week, there is no head to head in a 3 or more way tie. If Seattle, Dallas, and winner of Det/GB are all tied it goes to record in conference first and Seattle wins that. Detroit and Seattle both have only 2 losses in conference. The others have more. We would further win the tiebreaker with Detroit based on common opponents (min of 4) We swept the same 4 that they lost two.

If Seattle wins next week, the only thing that can take HFA away is a tie between det/gb which would leave only two teams at 12 wins and Dallas back with their head to head.
 

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Just win and Get the #1 Seed.
 

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BTW, this is why we always say that losses to teams from the AFC just aren't as bad as any other team in the NFC. Losing to SD and KC instead of one of the non divisional NFC opponents is exactly why Seattle is poised to hold their own destiny next week while a team that beat them cannot control their own.

Who you lose to matters greatly.
 

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BTW, this is why we always say that losses to teams from the AFC just aren't as bad as any other team in the NFC. Losing to SD and KC instead of one of the non divisional NFC opponents is exactly why Seattle is poised to hold their own destiny next week while a team that beat them cannot control their own.

Who you lose to matters greatly.

Exactly. Obviously all games count the same in the standings, but in terms of tiebreakers, the interconference games are of the least importance.
 

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So if I am reading this right:

If we win and Detroit and GB don't tie then we have the #1 seed.

If we win but Detroit and GB tie and Dallas wins, then Dallas gets the #1 seed and we get the #2 seed.

If we lose, then it gets complicated. If we fall to 11-5, we could potentially fall as far as the #6 seed if Dallas, Arizona win and GB and Detroit tie(?).

Carolina or Atlanta will get the #4 seed based on who wins their head to head next week. They will get in with 7 wins.

Still a lot to play for next week.

If the Pack/Lions game has been shifted to a late game then only the Dallas situation will be finalized before we play.
 

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I have a feeling the cards lose next week and the division is ours no matter what.
 

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I have a feeling the cards lose next week and the division is ours no matter what.
Hard one to call. Cards may have issues on offense, but the 9'ers are a total dumpster fire right now and they literally have nothing to play for. Arizona may not need the win, but they need the confidence and that counts for far more. I'm not ready to write that one off just yet.
 
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