Second cup of Coffee Talk

[RobBase]

For everyone else who don't actually enjoy being lied to:

FAKE NEWS promoted on reddit. Only a handful actually noticed the article's title was a lie. • r/The_Donald

Found some valuable info about this for what its worth:

People don't understand how this stuff works at all... I work for a defense contractor and 90% of the time you see "US give xxx dollars of weapons to (insert country here)".. this is what really happens:

The US Government authorizes the exportation of Tanks, Helicopters, Jets, Missles, etc... to be created by Raytheon, Lockheed, Boeing, etc.. and sold to the foreign country.

0 tax dollars are involved. The purchasing country (Qatar in this case) pays Boeing (the manufacture in this case), the USG simply authorizes the transaction. This way Boeing can't build F-18s for North Korea or something lol..

This is actually good for US jobs too.. keeps Boeing's production line moving.

The shady arms deals you gotta worry about are ones that don't originate in the US (for example, if the US assisted in delivering $10 billion in arms from Congo to Kenya or something)...that's where things get hairy...

EDIT: I'd also add that Qatar money they are paying Boeing will be taxed, because Boeing is a US Cooperation... so this is making the US Government money, in terms of tax revenue.

 

[forty_three]

A Russian Lobbyist Just Blew A Hole In Sessions’ Lies Under Oath

I have to admit, I am getting a little tired of popcorn.

Can I just upgrade to like pretzels or something?

 

[esls79]

A Russian Lobbyist Just Blew A Hole In Sessions’ Lies Under Oath

I have to admit, I am getting a little tired of popcorn.

Can I just upgrade to like pretzels or something?

no borscht for you!!!

 

[jstewismybastardson]

 

[Comeds]

no gallbladder ... heart issues ... last thing you need is black lung comeds ... i now strongly urge you stay at your dishwashing position

Plus I have two left feet. Literally.

In addition to Putin?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

 

[forty_three]

Hey, weddings and houses are very similar.

They both have walls. And things inside those walls...

 

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[jstewismybastardson]

^is that called being vindicated?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Hey, weddings and houses are very similar.

They both have walls. And things inside those walls...

remember when he said he'd hire the best people? oh well at least the people in New York social housing will have the best table centerpieces

 

[forty_three]

Is he trying to insinuate that Robert Mueller told him to fire Comey?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

wow

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Is he trying to insinuate that Robert Mueller told him to fire Comey?

probably means Rosenstein (perhaps Sessions) ... or maybe hes not aware Mueller is leading the independent investigation lol

 

[jstewismybastardson]

 

[forty_three]

Tory minister warned against including sprinklers in fire safety rules as it could discourage house building

What we see here is the potentially devastating effects of de-regulation in the interest of profit protection for corporations.

 

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Tory minister warned against including sprinklers in fire safety rules as it could discourage house building

What we see here is the potentially devastating effects of de-regulation in the interest of profit protection for corporations.

Additionally...

One London Member of Parliament has called for corporate manslaughter charges to be brought, after it was revealed that flammable material had been used to clad the building during a recent refurbishment.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Tory minister warned against including sprinklers in fire safety rules as it could discourage house building

What we see here is the potentially devastating effects of de-regulation in the interest of profit protection for corporations.

See, this is why those people who yell "FAKE NEWS" sometimes have a point.

London, and the UK, likely has a sprinkler requirement in all new high-rises. I'm sure they've had it at least since the 80s, if not earlier. This building was designed in the 60s and built in the early 70s, likely pre-dating the amended code and exempt from the regulation.

What happened to prompt this response from the Tory minister is a push to mandate that buildings undergoing any renovations must include the retrofitting of a sprinkler system as a part of that renovation. A lovely idea, except it would add unbelievable costs to any renovation and would almost certainly deter building owners from renovating at all, to the point where they'd just let the building become inhospitable and allow it to be demolished, which would mean displacing residents (most of whom are likely lower-income). The article saying the Tory minister is "anti-sprinkler" and then linking it to de-regulation is preposterous. It's as no-win a situation as you can get. Fire safety retrofits have been political hot potatoes in basically every large city. Painting this guy as some villain is pretty unfair.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Additionally...

One London Member of Parliament has called for corporate manslaughter charges to be brought, after it was revealed that flammable material had been used to clad the building during a recent refurbishment.

anyone see that video floating around of the kid in dreads (looked like Scotty P aka "no Ragrets" - lol) who went off on the reno they did on this building ... residents think this was murder ... takes me back to comeds post yesterday

You all know me, I am pretty anti-violence(except for inside the squared circle) but one could argue we are living in a plutocracy right now. One in which our wealthy and well taken care of leaders seem to frequently look down at us with disdain.

If it continues, at some point something big is going to happen.

 

[forty_three]

See, this is why those people who yell "FAKE NEWS" sometimes have a point.

London, and the UK, likely has a sprinkler requirement in all new high-rises. I'm sure they've had it at least since the 80s, if not earlier. This building was designed in the 60s and built in the early 70s, likely pre-dating the amended code and exempt from the regulation.

What happened to prompt this response from the Tory minister is a push to mandate that buildings undergoing any renovations must include the retrofitting of a sprinkler system as a part of that renovation. A lovely idea, except it would add unbelievable costs to any renovation and would almost certainly deter building owners from renovating at all, to the point where they'd just let the building become inhospitable and allow it to be demolished, which would mean displacing residents (most of whom are likely lower-income). The article saying the Tory minister is "anti-sprinkler" and then linking it to de-regulation is preposterous. It's as no-win a situation as you can get. Fire safety retrofits have been political hot potatoes in basically every large city. Painting this guy as some villain is pretty unfair.

I see your point, but the punishment to a business for refusing to innovate and keep pace is often bankruptcy, as it should be. Build it better or lose business, unless you can get politicians to tell you you don't *have* to build it better. See Chevy and Ford and their pushing of regulations stopping high quality European cars from being sold in the states. And I don't see how linking it to de-regulation is preposterous. Because it is deregulation. You are lessening the regulations for one particular group.

The building in question went through a renovation that included all new kitchens, a complete re-fit of the heating and ventilation system AND completely re-skinning the outside of the building (in a flammable material, as it turned out). I am not a construction expert, but it seems to me that re fitting an entire heating and ventilation system would not add terribly significant costs to add some water pipes at the same time.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I see your point, but the punishment to a business for refusing to innovate and keep pace is often bankruptcy, as it should be. Build it better or lose business, unless you can get politicians to tell you you don't *have* to build it better. See Chevy and Ford and their pushing of regulations stopping high quality European cars from being sold in the states. And I don't see how linking it to de-regulation is preposterous. Because it is deregulation. You are lessening the regulations for one particular group.

The building in question went through a renovation that included all new kitchens, a complete re-fit of the heating and ventilation system AND completely re-skinning the outside of the building (in a flammable material, as it turned out). I am not a construction expert, but it seems to me that re fitting an entire heating and ventilation system would not add terribly significant costs to add some water pipes at the same time.

the bold is the key