Scheduling for the CFP.

[dtgold88]

And that probably funded their entire season

Basically just the big state school subsidizing the little local guys.

It’s fine.

It’s good for the state and doesn’t dramatically affect cfb in the greater scheme of things

But don’t play 3 cupcakes in one year either. I’m with you on that

totally agree and hate our team is doing that this season (though because Washington had to be moved).

 

[Wamu]

And that probably funded their entire season

Basically just the big state school subsidizing the little local guys.

It’s fine.

It’s good for the state and doesn’t dramatically affect cfb in the greater scheme of things

But don’t play 3 cupcakes in one year either. I’m with you on that

Oh there's no doubt those big payday's the cupcake get from FBS programs helps those schools out a lot. It's really the only good thing outta what I consider a messy situation.

 

[dtgold88]

I’m not seeing much of a difference between giving it to Youngstown st or Akron

It’s the same concept Imo

Ymmv of course

I get what you are saying here but prefer if just be a better opponent even if not that good.....though, sure, possible an FCS team is better than a MAC school.

 

[Wamu]

Have played YSU as favor to Tress....other times we did it pretty sure it was to replace games that were cancelled.

That is true. I'm already on the CFB countdown. Should be a fun season all around.

 

[The Q]

I get what you are saying here but prefer if just be a better opponent even if not that good.....though, sure, possible an FCS team is better than a MAC school.

Yeah, and I basically assume either team is losing by 40 so it doesn’t affect it either way

But yeah, Akron is generally better

Idk if it’s true in football but in other sports the high end d2 (no in between in other sports like football has with fcs) schools are absolutely better than low end d1s

But I don’t follow fcs enough to know if that is a thing in football but I assume not

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, and I basically assume either team is losing by 40 so it doesn’t affect it either way

But yeah, Akron is generally better

Idk if it’s true in football but in other sports the high end d2 (no in between in other sports like football has with fcs) schools are absolutely better than low end d1s

But I don’t follow fcs enough to know if that is a thing in football but I assume not

I think it's probably true. Ideally, I'd just like to see uniformity among the P5 teams (well, P4). 9 conference games. would like to see the teams who think they are CFP contenders play 1 tough OOC, another potentially decent P5 team (like a GT or UNC type, for instance) then a local G5 team (or FCS if they want).

 

[Gator]

I'm an adult so if I make a mistake I'll simply own it. admittedly, did now know there was a season between the UGA and Bama home and homes. But after this one - as of now - only 1 season into the 2030s without no tough OOC scheduled which would be a pretty long time as mentioned. Hopefully we can add one for 2029.

Not sure what you are talking about with UGA as don't think I mentioned them. Though if we are talking TOUGH OOC, no, I would not count GT. Like I wouldn't count BC for OSU.

Get it together.

I quoted TWO posts. Your OSU compatriot mentioned the "cupcake non-conference" schedule that UGa walks through so I showed that the UGa's schedule is at least on par with OSU's OOc schedule.

You mentioned the tough OSU OOC schedule. I merely pointed out that over a 13 years span you focused on the part where OSU plays 6 tough teams in 7 seasons and ignores the rest. I can't find another span in OSU history where they played another string of opponents like this one. Thus, this is NOT typical of OSU OOC scheduling.

 

[Gator]

I think it's probably true. Ideally, I'd just like to see uniformity among the P5 teams (well, P4). 9 conference games. would like to see the teams who think they are CFP contenders play 1 tough OOC, another potentially decent P5 team (like a GT or UNC type, for instance) then a local G5 team (or FCS if they want).

Uniformity or mimic the Big Ten? (9 games out of 18 teams = 8 games out of 16 teams).

 

[UGADawg1988]

I quoted TWO posts. Your OSU compatriot mentioned the "cupcake non-conference" schedule that UGa walks through so I showed that the UGa's schedule is at least on par with OSU's OOc schedule.

You mentioned the tough OSU OOC schedule. I merely pointed out that over a 13 years span you focused on the part where OSU plays 6 tough teams in 7 seasons and ignores the rest. I can't find another span in OSU history where they played another string of opponents like this one. Thus, this is NOT typical of OSU OOC scheduling.

That's why I posted UGA's OOC schedule. I mean there may be a few teams who play tougher OOC opponents, but there can't be many teams like that. By almost any standard UGA's OOC schedule is reasonable with the exception of 2025.

 

[dtgold88]

I quoted TWO posts. Your OSU compatriot mentioned the "cupcake non-conference" schedule that UGa walks through so I showed that the UGa's schedule is at least on par with OSU's OOc schedule.

You mentioned the tough OSU OOC schedule. I merely pointed out that over a 13 years span you focused on the part where OSU plays 6 tough teams in 7 seasons and ignores the rest. I can't find another span in OSU history where they played another string of opponents like this one. Thus, this is NOT typical of OSU OOC scheduling.

what are you talking about? OSU played a tough OOC team nearly every season since the mid-90s it seems. Texas, ND, USC, Va Tech (well, when scheduled, but they fell off map), Oklahoma and many others or repeats of those teams..... then added some top SEC teams once they got on board with home and home (OSU prefers that to neutral), etc.

Other than maybe USC would be hard to come up with a school that schedules tougher OOC than OSU. I do think for most part UGA is fine OOC, though.

 

[dtgold88]

Uniformity or mimic the Big Ten? (9 games out of 18 teams = 8 games out of 16 teams).

does not really have to do with it being a % of conference teams so it's fair INSIDE the conference (more about being fair among all conferences for CFP) . I mean, if a conference was down to 12 teams would you think 6 is OK?

Just has to do with conference games usually being tougher than a 4th OOC. It's just my opinion, though...if you like FCS week over another SEC game then that's fine.

 

[dtgold88]

That's why I posted UGA's OOC schedule. I mean there may be a few teams who play tougher OOC opponents, but there can't be many teams like that. By almost any standard UGA's OOC schedule is reasonable with the exception of 2025.

I happen to agree UGA's schedule is reasonable/fine. If memory serves they seem to be one of the few SEC teams who have had no issue playing home and home against tougher teams and going to opposing stadiums.

 

[Gator]

does not really have to do with it being a % of conference teams so it's fair INSIDE the conference (more about being fair among all conferences for CFP) . I mean, if a conference was down to 12 teams would you think 6 is OK?

Why not? You seem fixated on OOC only looking at OOC games. When you want to compare schedules just remember Notre Dame. How about using them as the "standard". It will get you OUT of the OOC and IC mindset. Look at entire schedules only!

Just has to do with conference games usually being tougher than a 4th OOC. It's just my opinion, though...if you like FCS week over another SEC game then that's fine.

Again fixating on the title "FCS". Which would you rather watch: a) your team play an FCS team and a top 5 team every year, or b) your team play Vanderbilt TWICE every year?

 

[Gator]

I happen to agree UGA's schedule is reasonable/fine. If memory serves they seem to be one of the few SEC teams who have had no issue playing home and home against tougher teams and going to opposing stadiums.

Which SEC teams do you think doesn't play enough away/neutral games?

 

[Gator]

I think it's probably true. Ideally, I'd just like to see uniformity among the P5 teams (well, P4). 9 conference games. would like to see the teams who think they are CFP contenders play 1 tough OOC, another potentially decent P5 team (like a GT or UNC type, for instance) then a local G5 team (or FCS if they want).

You talk uniformity but you only want uniformity in CERTAIN contexts and NOT over all. The P4 or P5 conferences are NOT identical so stop treating them as if they were.
Let's compare the "tough" (i.e. ranked teams, final poll only) opponents played by OSU and ND in away & neutral site games in non-bowl games (1990 - 2023):








Do these comparison look reasonable? IMHO, the schedules are SO different that the comparisons look stupid.

Try these comparisons.






It only makes sense when ENTIRE schedules are compared.

 

[dtgold88]

Why not? You seem fixated on OOC only looking at OOC games. When you want to compare schedules just remember Notre Dame. How about using them as the "standard". It will get you OUT of the OOC and IC mindset. Look at entire schedules only!


Again fixating on the title "FCS". Which would you rather watch: a) your team play an FCS team and a top 5 team every year, or b) your team play Vanderbilt TWICE every year?

Get a grip...I realize you think I'm coming after the SEC, the Gators, etc. I'm not. I'd like to see each team (or at least each team that thinks they are a CFP candidate) play 9 conference games and a tough OOC game. That's it. You disagree? OK.

as to the FCS? Who is fixating (I can help if you have comprehension issues if you ask) Yes, I prefer my team not play them, but if another feels they want/need to then have at it. Not a huge deal.

 

[dtgold88]

Which SEC teams do you think doesn't play enough away/neutral games?

again, it's not about the SEC but since you asked? This has gotten much better IMO. Was a time the premier team, Bama, seemed somewhat reluctant to play true road games against tough opponents. Gators of course were mostly FSU or no one on the road.....cannot fault too much when FSU was a good team, which they often have been.

as a Gator fan I'd have gotten bored with it, but whatever.

 

[dtgold88]

You talk uniformity but you only want uniformity in CERTAIN contexts and NOT over all. The P4 or P5 conferences are NOT identical so stop treating them as if they were.
Let's compare the "tough" (i.e. ranked teams, final poll only) opponents played by OSU and ND in away & neutral site games in non-bowl games (1990 - 2023):
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Do these comparison look reasonable? IMHO, the schedules are SO different that the comparisons look stupid.

Try these comparisons.
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It only makes sense when ENTIRE schedules are compared.

Not reading this as I only told you what I prefer. Never said my team has always done this or will do it.

Seriously.....don't be so sensitive toward your team/conference. Get a grip.

 

[Gator]

... Personally, I prefer my team never play them and don't think anyone should play them every season (like SEC-FCS week).....but once every decade or so? Eh. whatever.

I happen to agree UGA's schedule is reasonable/fine. If memory serves they seem to be one of the few SEC teams who have had no issue playing home and home against tougher teams and going to opposing stadiums.

again, it's not about the SEC but since you asked? This has gotten much better IMO. Was a time the premier team, Bama, seemed somewhat reluctant to play true road games against tough opponents. Gators of course were mostly FSU or no one on the road.....cannot fault too much when FSU was a good team, which they often have been.

as a Gator fan I'd have gotten bored with it, but whatever.

Naw, you're not after the SEC or my team!

 

[Gator]

Not reading this as I only told you what I prefer. Never said my team has always done this or will do it.

Seriously.....don't be so sensitive toward your team/conference. Get a grip.

You apparently have no idea how annoying it is to hear YOUR claims about poor scheduling by the SEC. You have a completely distorted view of reality and don't wish to have your vision corrected.

OSU fans should NEVER trash talk the SEC about scheduling, period. You have NO idea of what goes on in the SEC and won't even bother to check things before posting.