Russell Wilson

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[Rock Strongo]

LOL......Its an idiot comparison.......I love it tho that Eli will forever live in your nightmares

so, are you denying that QB's are judged on rings?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I am not going to say I do not hope for more. Whether it happens or not, no one can say, at this point.

Dont you fucking dare say a kind work or express any optimism on any player or team that isnt Tom Brady* or on the New England Patriots, in a Rock thread....Everyone else sucks and has no chance

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

so, are you denying that QB's are judged on rings?

if that were true, they better take a wrecking ball to the Hall of Fame, cause a A LOT of QB"s shouldnt be there

 

[Rock Strongo]

if that were true, they better take a wrecking ball to the Hall of Fame, cause a A LOT of QB"s shouldnt be there

in terms of all time greats, are titles a measuring stick for a QB?

yes or no

one word reply only

 

[Scooby-Doo]

you mean the guy who dominated the superbowl with 2 4th quarter TD drives to put his team ahead?

the guy who was 37-50 for 328 yards and 4 TD's?

that guy?

the MVP?

while wilson was 12-21 for 247?

I like how you conveniently leave out the 2 pics that if not thrown, would not have put the Patriots in a situation where they needed to capitalize on a horrible play call to win the game.

 

[Tainthappening]

One of the games biggest losers

Rivers is a fantasy QB, real life losing QB

Not a HOF QB in my opinion... but a good QB none the less. Of current QBs in my top 10 list somewhere.

Career winning PCT .591 and better than 2 to 1 TD/Int ratio.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

in terms of all time greats, are titles a measuring stick for a QB?

yes or no

one word reply only

No, because I believe Dan Marino is making everyone's all time list

And Mark Rypien isnt

 

[Ned_Merrill]

I will say this about Brady, the Patriots, and Rock's admirable devotion to them. All this Deflategate/Spygate/Patriot Hate is a great big steaming pile of horseshit. Anyone who thinks that Belichick is the only HC dong everything in his power to win is kidding themselves.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I like how you conveniently leave out the 2 pics that if not thrown, would not have put the Patriots in a situation where they needed to capitalize on a horrible play call to win the game.

like 2 epic 4th quarter TD drives to put his team ahead?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Not a HOF QB in my opinion... but a good QB none the less. Of current QBs in my top 10 list somewhere.

Career winning PCT .591 and better than 2 to 1 TD/Int ratio.

I dunno, i sat there watching the end of last weeks' game just KNOWING Rivers wouldnt finish that drive

Thats what Ive come to expect from Rivers.....500 yards and 20 points

 

[dkmightyhammer]

well, no. the "then you agree..." is always a laugher. i never said anywhere i agreed with that statement.

brady had 3 rings after his first 5 years.

dilfer has 1, so does wilson.

now as far as game play goes, yes...everyone knows when brady first took over he had a very limited playbook. mostly short passes and check downs. he also averaged more attempts per game and yards than wilson (again, ive done this 100 times)

top of my head wilsons around 16-26 per game (memory)

brady was around 19-28 per (memory of the last 100 times ive done this)

brady was asked to do more with his arm than wilson, at the same points in their careers.

I never said anything about playoffs. You started this thread by projecting RW's regular season stats for this year based on what he's done this year. So I showed you both QB's regular season numbers and how they compared.

Speaking of playoffs (since you brought up "rings") did you know that when you compare the two QB's playoff stats at the same point in their careers (three years of playoffs each) here are the numbers:

RW: 8 games played, 227 passing yards per game, 1.5 passing TD's/game
TB: 9 games played, 216 passing yards per game, 1.22 passing TD's/game

Again I didn't add rushing stats, but they obviously favor Wilson a lot.

So all I'm saying is be careful when you throw out that "Wilson = Dilfer" talk because Wilson's numbers are far closer to Tom Brady's than they are Dilfers.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No,

literally stopped after my requested one word

so, your belief is that QB's are not measure, as far as all time greats, by titles?

 

[Rock Strongo]

I will say this about Brady, the Patriots, and Rock's admirable devotion to them. All this Deflategate/Spygate/Patriot Hate is a great big steaming pile of horseshit. Anyone who thinks that Belichick is the only HC dong everything in his power to win is kidding themselves.

lets hug

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I never said anything about playoffs. You started this thread by projecting RW's regular season stats for this year based on what he's done this year. So I showed you both QB's regular season numbers and how they compared.

Speaking of playoffs (since you brought up "rings") did you know that when you compare the two QB's playoff stats at the same point in their careers (three years of playoffs each) here are the numbers:

RW: 8 games played, 227 passing yards per game, 1.5 passing TD's/game
TB: 9 games played, 216 passing yards per game, 1.22 passing TD's/game

Again I didn't add rushing stats, but they obviously favor Wilson a lot.

So all I'm saying is be careful when you throw out that "Wilson = Dilfer" talk because Wilson's numbers are far closer to Tom Brady's than they are Dilfers.

LOL

 

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[DirtDirtDirt]

literally stopped after my requested one word

so, your belief is that QB's are not measure, as far as all time greats, by titles?

Of course you stopped there, you have Mark Rypien as an All Time Great, so I obviously dont feel im losing the debate

 

[Scooby-Doo]

like 2 epic 4th quarter TD drives to put his team ahead?

If the Seahawks hand the ball to Lynch, everyone is ripping Brady for putting the Patriots in a huge hole and costing them the game.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I never said anything about playoffs. You started this thread by projecting RW's regular season stats for this year based on what he's done this year. So I showed you both QB's regular season numbers and how they compared.

Speaking of playoffs (since you brought up "rings") did you know that when you compare the two QB's playoff stats at the same point in their careers (three years of playoffs each) here are the numbers:

RW: 8 games played, 227 passing yards per game, 1.5 passing TD's/game
TB: 9 games played, 216 passing yards per game, 1.22 passing TD's/game

Again I didn't add rushing stats, but they obviously favor Wilson a lot.

So all I'm saying is be careful when you throw out that "Wilson = Dilfer" talk because Wilson's numbers are far closer to Tom Brady's than they are Dilfers.

yup

and the rings, arent.

and again, do you see wilson becoming a 4500-5000 yard passer with 30+ TD's and under 10 picks a year?

 

[Ned_Merrill]

in terms of all time greats, are titles a measuring stick for a QB?

yes or no

one word reply only

Marino.