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Rondo suspended for gay slurs to gay ref

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Weren't you one of the people commenting negatively on Lamar and his drug habit? Something about others shouldn't have empathy and such??? :scratch:
lamar overdosed on drugs and Viagra in a whore house. The ref said that he's gay. Big difference.
 

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Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion...mine just differs.

If you don't think kids are bullied/targeted at a young age before a "coming out process", then you're mistaken. You basically just said they bring it upon themselves because of this process.

You're entitled your beliefs, but casting blame on the targeted? You're better than that.
 

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I don't think the red made a huge overly dramatic announcement. He said he's gay. That's all that happened. I said you probably shouldn't make a spectacle out of it which he didn't.
My post was in relation to people acting like the words "gay & fagot" are reasons for social condemning. They are just words at the end of the day. It doesn't matter to me what people do in their personal lives...but just have some thick skin if you're gonna share those things with the world is my only point.
 

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I don't think the red made a huge overly dramatic announcement. He said he's gay. That's all that happened. I said you probably shouldn't make a spectacle out of it which he didn't.

Totally agree.

Seriously, how would it have looked for him to deny it?

He doesn't owe the public the truth.

But, maybe their is someone special in his life and he didn't want that person to feel like he was ashamed.

We have no idea what his motivation was.

But, I'm willing to believe that his purpose was not exploitative like Michael Sam.
 

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My post was in relation to people acting like the words "gay & fagot" are reasons for social condemning. They are just words at the end of the day. It doesn't matter to me what people do in their personal lives...but just have some thick skin if you're gonna share those things with the world is my only point.

I think it's hard to judge unless you belong to that particular demographic and your life experiences.

If you are a gay Dude who has been beaten, taunted or tormented I'm sure it's as bad as being called a n%gger if you are black, being called a terrorist if you are Muslim etc....
 

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My post was in relation to people acting like the words "gay & fagot" are reasons for social condemning. They are just words at the end of the day. It doesn't matter to me what people do in their personal lives...but just have some thick skin if you're gonna share those things with the world is my only point.
To an extent it should be condemned. The same way the N word is. Yes you need to have thick skin when it comes to the ignorant mouth breathers of the world but it shouldn't be that hard to go through life without throwing the word "fagot" around.
 

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lamar overdosed on drugs and Viagra in a whore house. The ref said that he's gay. Big difference.
The only difference is the content in the stories...but both situations call for empathy. Something you were unable to show in the case of Lamar so please don't jump down my throat here.

But, I don't condone name calling & just think people have to get beyond that. It is crucial to understand there are some mental midgets among us that don't possess the mental capability to connect with others-regardless of background, race, or sexual preference.
 

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If you don't think kids are bullied/targeted at a young age before a "coming out process", then you're mistaken. You basically just said they bring it upon themselves because of this process.

You're entitled your beliefs, but casting blame on the targeted? You're better than that.
Listen, kids are bullied for just about ANYTHING these days. Kids are typically cruel and unable to think beyond the moment or tap into their own emotions, let alone someone else's.

I will say this one last time- I wasn't blaming the targeted as you stated. Just giving examples of why I believe sometimes things happen. In this particular case, why was it necessary for him to come out? It was just a word Rondo expressed verbally. The targeted could've looked beyond the word and realized the source from which it came (Rondo being an idiot) and moved on.
 

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I think it's hard to judge unless you belong to that particular demographic and your life experiences.

If you are a gay Dude who has been beaten, taunted or tormented I'm sure it's as bad as being called a n%gger if you are black, being called a terrorist if you are Muslim etc....
Maybe so, but I didn't choose to be black and so I view that slightly different.
 

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To an extent it should be condemned. The same way the N word is. Yes you need to have thick skin when it comes to the ignorant mouth breathers of the world but it shouldn't be that hard to go through life without throwing the word "fagot" around.
I can agree with this. But am not so sure the N word is condemned. I mean, we still hear it all the time, right?
 

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I can agree with this. But am not so sure the N word is condemned. I mean, we still hear it all the time, right?
Riley Cooper, WR for the Eagles, used it like a year ago and caught all kinds of backlash.
 

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Maybe so, but I didn't choose to be black and so I view that slightly different.

Sure.

But, are you insinuating that they chose to be gay?

Did you choose to be straight?

I didn't.

Believe me, there have been some drunken Vegas nights with some bad chicks where I said...maaaaaaaaybe.

In the end, I couldn't do it.

* that's my story and I'm sticking to it *
 

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And to answer your question I did choose to be straight. I feel it was a choice because I had options. In the case of being bi-racial or any race for that matter- there are no options to choose.

But I want to say something else in response to your other post. Why did he feel the need to respond to Rondo's stupidity with whether or not he is gay? Did Rondo literally ask him if he is or not? The reason I'm asking is because without that response it becomes just another instance where a player gets out of hand and name calls.

A similar situation that stands out in particular is when Kobe did it a couple years back. He was fined but I don't recall whether or not that ref felt the need to actually address the comment by revealing his preference publically.
 

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Why did he feel the need to respond to Rondo's stupidity with whether or not he is gay?

Who knows? He has every right to keep that to himself or to tell people.

There have been rumors about Kennedy being gay since Tim Donaghy said he (Kennedy) was a few years ago. After Rondo got caught yelling "Billy youre a motherf____ f___t!!"... a lot of people were discussing Kennedy's sexuality and Rondo's suspension.

My guess is Kennedy just wanted to address the topic and get the truth out there so everyone could get over it and stop discussing it.
 

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Riley Cooper, WR for the Eagles, used it like a year ago and caught all kinds of backlash.
Yes, however, that hasn't stopped people from using it.
 

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Who knows? He has every right to keep that to himself or to tell people.

There have been rumors about Kennedy being gay since Tim Donaghy said he (Kennedy) was a few years ago. After Rondo got caught yelling "Billy youre a motherf____ f___t!!"... a lot of people were discussing Kennedy's sexuality and Rondo's suspension.

My guess is Kennedy just wanted to address the topic and get the truth out there so everyone could get over it and stop discussing it.
And that's his right to do so....but also leads back to my point that people are going to discuss it & have strong opinions once it's out there.
 
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