Report Siemian is the Starter

[nflbronco]

Someone claiming we are going to win games because Siemian can move out of the pocket really means nothing to me unti he proves it.

I respect your opinion Crash, but when it comes to the NFL I need someone to prove it to me before I am all in. It's all about proving yourself, something NFL players have to do each and every week. I am not saying don't be excited about him but lets put on the breaks a bit here and hope he can prove himself. Kudos for him for winning the starting job but he has a lot to prove if he wants to keep it. Personally I feel he is a stop gap, but I'd love if I am wrong and he is a 7th round gem. I am giving him a chance because he deserves that, now we wait and see if he can prove himself.

This is a HUGE stage he is on. Is he up for the challenge? We will soon find out. But in reality none of us have an idea how well he will hold up without much to go off of. The same could be said about any young QB, but perhaps especially Siemian because he was very limited in the offense he was in during his college experience.

I think its due to our D is why more are sold on Siemian. As well as poor QB play in 15 but, we had vet exp reading D's etc not the case for us this year bigger difference this season. We might do well we might do worse. Even D bar is set so high can they live up to it all season to cover up our O two years in a row we'll see. Fun storylines to watch in 16.

I agree with you DC too early to know for sure we'll see.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I think its due to our D is why more are sold on Siemian. As well as poor QB play in 15 but, we had vet exp reading D's etc not the case for us this year bigger difference this season. We might do well we might do worse. Even D bar is set so high can they live up to it all season to cover up our O two years in a row we'll see. Fun storylines to watch in 16.

I agree with you DC too early to know for sure we'll see.

Hey I was excited when we drafted Devontae Booker and signed Bralon Addison, but I surely wasn't ready to dance in victory that they were going to be great players until they prove it. But I was happy as all get out that they were going to have the opportunity in Denver to take a stab at it. However, I was dancing and throwing cheese puffs in the air when we were the team that was giving them that opportunity.

 

[randymon]

Let's not get ahead of the game. He has to prove he can win before we start giving him games on paper. Hopefully it is a problem. But Lynch is the long term future unless Siemian turns into the next Tom Brady which sadly, I am pretty sure isn't going to happen. (But Ill give him that chance). I wouldn't call him "really solid" yet. He has to prove himself. How about we phrase that. Siemian has looked pretty solid in his short time we have seen him in preseason for the amount of time he has had to prepare in the NFL as a starter, we are hoping for the best.

I am all for Siemian being great/doing well, but I think some of us are forgetting how tough it is to play the QB spot in the NFL for 4 quarters with blitzing teams, audibles, adjustments, etc... Let's calm down and see what he does before we call him the next big deal at QB. I am willing to give him that chance, but I wish some of us would relax a bit before we give ourselves wins on paper.

I also like that if Siemian does well the people who have tried to stay calm and aren't quick to call him a "great" QB will end up bombarded "I told you so, I told you so, you hated him. I was right. You thought he sucked"

We are only waiting to see more of him before we are ready to call him a great QB not getting ahead of ourselves. We are all rooting for him and we all want him to be great. If Paxton Lynch never has to see a down in a Denver uniform because Trevor Siemian is so great, then that is fantastic. But I am far from ready to predict that.

Everyone here is willing to give him a chance, but we just simply want him to prove himself more then a few PS games before we are ready to do cart wheels with him as our starter.

Hmnn....2nd paragraph......Weren't you one of the ones that supported the post that Denver could win with " Sub-Par " Qb play ? I prob have you confused with someone else. Sorry if mistaken.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Nope I was one of many who said that.

Where have I said they can't win with Siemian at QB?

Saying they can't win and claiming Siemian is a great QB are two way different things.

 

[randymon]

Nope I was one of many who said that.

Where have I said they can't win with Siemian at QB?

Saying they can't win and claiming Siemian is a great QB are two way different things.

Ok. Let me see if I got this straight... "Subpar ". " Not measuring up to traditional standards of PERFORMANCE, VALUE or PRODUCTION". Then you post " Some of us are forgetting how tough it is to play the QB spot in the NFL" Seems kind of contradictory to me. So.....you CAN win with a subpar Siemian that proves he can handle "blitzes, audibles, adjustments ,etc. ? If he can handle those " qualities", doesnt that make him better than a subpar QB ? I`m confused. Because apparently the subpar definition doesnt jive with "handle blitzes, audibles,adjustments,etc.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I think you are putting too much effort into this discussion trying to get inside my brain as to what I am thinking.

Let me break it down for you, it is pretty simple.

Do I think Siemian is a great QB? No

Am I willing to give Siemian a shot? Yes

Do I want Siemian to be great? Of course, Yes. He is a Bronco

Do I think we as fans need to wait until Siemian throws at least one pass (in reality a lot more, point being he hasn't thrown an NFL regular season pass) before we raise our first up in victory and call him the next Tom Brady like what has been posted here? YES

Do I think we can win with Siemian given our current roster? Of course, as long as he doesn't turn the ball over. We won with a QB who led the league in INT's last year.

Saying we need to wait to see more of Siemian before we call him "great" and can we win with him are two way separate issues at hand here.

You're right. I said we could win with an average QB. I never said Siemian can't be average. I simply said before I am ready to call him great and raise my fist in victory like some have around here I need to see him prove himself more.

Being great and being good enough to win with what is around you are two way different issues.

Being a fan of the NFL you should know as well as the NFL fan pissing in the urinal next to you that their are not many "great" QB's in the NFL. Many teams win without great QB's. Historically you win championships with great QB's but not always.

I have never once said we cannot win with Siemian who I find to be average at best (but will keep an open mind that he could be great like you and others seem to think) I respect that opinion, I am simply saying lets give him time before we jump to that conclusion.

So to sum if up for you-

Yes, I will stick to what I said. We don't need a great QB to win and yes we can win with Siemian at QB and yes I am going to wait to see more of him before I call him great, and to be great he has to be able to pick up blitzes, recognize D's, adjust well. Afterall that is what great QB's in this league do. You don't have to "win" with great QB's if the scene around you is setup like we have. That is all. Pretty simple to understand what I am coming from I hope.

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

He isn't the next brady. He is gonna be even BETTER! The bronco messiah. Both late round qbs. Both from big ten schools. But Siemian is a BETTER ATHLETE! Also he wears number 13, which is one more than 12! Siemian is the inflator to combat the deflator and guaranteed AFC Dominance remains in Denver, out of the hands of Mr. ugg and the pats*.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Best QB in the history of the NFL. I am calling it right now despite every throwing a pass in a regular season game. #YouHearditHereFirst

He will put Manning and Brady's records to shame.

 

[58crash]

There is a reason people are quiet on us they are going what the f@@k ??? Were the he

I really hope you are right. I'm slowly coming around to the idea but just afraid all my excitement could be for nothing. There are things that say this kid could be good and there are things that have me worried still.

I am worried about that one play were he staired down the WR .. But I think all QBs do this from time to time if you think at the amount of starts this guy has and were he is at...make you amazed he is this advanced . he should get waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better . He was as good as Sanchez already .

 

[Draft Crazy]

Jared Goff has fallen to 3rd string with the Rams.

 

[CEH]

If Denver keeps Sanchez with a paycut then that will signal Lynch is not close to being 1 snap away. This is what I assume will happen. Sanchez will stay with Denver.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Vikings and Broncos in talks. Lets get er done

 

[cdumler7]

Kubiak said after the game he saw more good about Lynch in the game then he did bad.

I would agree with that. He was inconsistent which is what you expect from a rookie QB but he showed well of standing in the pocket taking a hit and still completing a pass. He showed well of trying to work through his progressions which would be helped by better OL play. He also showed some of his athleticism that makes him a very dangerous weapon when he gets out of the pocket. Plenty for him to work on of course but there is plenty of promise that we can see.

 

[cdumler7]

Ok. Let me see if I got this straight... "Subpar ". " Not measuring up to traditional standards of PERFORMANCE, VALUE or PRODUCTION". Then you post " Some of us are forgetting how tough it is to play the QB spot in the NFL" Seems kind of contradictory to me. So.....you CAN win with a subpar Siemian that proves he can handle "blitzes, audibles, adjustments ,etc. ? If he can handle those " qualities", doesnt that make him better than a subpar QB ? I`m confused. Because apparently the subpar definition doesnt jive with "handle blitzes, audibles,adjustments,etc.

See I think you have read some of Scott's posts wrong. He never said that he has seen that Siemian has those qualities yet. None of us know if he does or not. All we have so far at least NFL snaps wise is Preseason where most teams do not blitz or blitz very little. They also do not scheme to stop what the Broncos like to do most. They play Del Rio's favorite type of ice cream in vanilla. So until we see him in live action snaps in the regular season we have no clue how he will do with reading a defense, reading a blitz coming at him and finding the right receiver to throw to, audibling at the LOS (although Kubiak's system somewhat limits a QB's options with this), and so on.

And again with the subpar QB play. Randymon remember we said the TEAM can win with subpar QB play. That doesn't mean we are hoping we have Subpar QB play. I'm hoping we have much better than that as it increases our chances dramatically. And as I have said before and proven that in this league even teams with subpar QB play can still run the football with success. Yes it isn't as easy with a QB that can back a defense off from always keying on the run but plenty of teams with terrible QB's have had very strong run games in the league.

Pretty much there are just some of us that want to wait and see it actually happen on the field before declaring that it has actually already happened. I hope for the best with Siemian. His success is our team's success which means we as fans are very happy.

 

[Draft Crazy]

See I think you have read some of Scott's posts wrong. He never said that he has seen that Siemian has those qualities yet. None of us know if he does or not. All we have so far at least NFL snaps wise is Preseason where most teams do not blitz or blitz very little. They also do not scheme to stop what the Broncos like to do most. They play Del Rio's favorite type of ice cream in vanilla. So until we see him in live action snaps in the regular season we have no clue how he will do with reading a defense, reading a blitz coming at him and finding the right receiver to throw to, audibling at the LOS (although Kubiak's system somewhat limits a QB's options with this), and so on.

And again with the subpar QB play. Randymon remember we said the TEAM can win with subpar QB play. That doesn't mean we are hoping we have Subpar QB play. I'm hoping we have much better than that as it increases our chances dramatically. And as I have said before and proven that in this league even teams with subpar QB play can still run the football with success. Yes it isn't as easy with a QB that can back a defense off from always keying on the run but plenty of teams with terrible QB's have had very strong run games in the league.

Pretty much there are just some of us that want to wait and see it actually happen on the field before declaring that it has actually already happened. I hope for the best with Siemian. His success is our team's success which means we as fans are very happy.

Thank you!

Hit the nail on the head.

 

[SpiritOf77]

Before our next meal, let's take a moment and be thankful that we didn't take Hackenberg

Hackenberg, the Jets’ second-round pick, got a long look in the fourth preseason game after Bryce Petty injured his shoulder. Hackenberg produced a stat line that is hard to believe.

He completed 11-of-31 passes for 54 yards.

Pick 6 returned 90 yards

 

[Broncosr0k]

Jared Goff has fallen to 3rd string with the Rams.

That has got to be painful to read if you are a rams fan. Traded the house for nothing.

 

[cdumler7]

That has got to be painful to read if you are a rams fan. Traded the house for nothing.

Especially when everybody was talking that he was going 1st overall because he was the most NFL ready of the QB's in this draft.

 

[nflbronco]

That has got to be painful to read if you are a rams fan. Traded the house for nothing.

LA and Philly rock on trades

 

[WalkerBoh]

That has got to be painful to read if you are a rams fan. Traded the house for nothing.

Some just can't escape the fact that nature eventually balances itself out.