remaining holes on the team

[maniax]

So what else does this team need now? We got Tolzien and Gooden.

IMHO,

We need a big badass blocking TE that can also catch a few balls now and then.

Also if there's an OL-man that we like, and the current top 7 are not cutting it, I would cut Mike Person and bring in a vet.

 

[MW49ers5]

There is no reason to believe Seattle will be successful running the ball against us so I expect our two main weaknesses (pass protection & pass defense) will be attacked early and often on the 11th.

In last years' opener, Seattle's front-seven beat the crap out of us all day long while our secondary was trying to help Matt Hasselbeck get into the HOF. I can see no reason why Carroll would not draw up the same game plan and force us to show we can beat it.

The Seattle game certainly won't tell us everything, but it will tell us a lot of things.

 

[imac_21]

Are you talking about this year? If that's the case, we won't be filling any holes with anything worthwhile.

If you're talking going forward, QB is still a hole, as is CB (if we don't come out of round 1 next year with at least one of those positions addressed the draft is a failure). The pass rush looks decent, and Aldon should develop. I'm bigger on Goldson than everyone else, so I'm happy with our safeties.

This will be a big year for our WRs. If Edwards performs like a #1 (and signs long term) then what we have gotten out of Crabtree will be good for a #2 (#3 if you count Davis). Morgan I believe is a FA, but not a priority at all, particularly if Edwards re-ups. I like Williams in the slot and would let Ginn walk most likely.

At TE, another body is needed, although Harbaugh has said that Miller were serve as FB/TE. I really like Davis and Walker.

On the OL, I don't know. There's a lot of young talent, and the question is will it develop. I wouldn't be overly concerned with it going into next year.

I like the DL, but Sop has struggled at NT in the past and I'm not sold on RJF or Williams. I wouldn't mind getting a NT on day 2 next year (rnd 2 or 3). We also have to, eventually, look into a replacement for J Smith (or McDonald as I think McDonald is better suited for the right side than the left).

 

[CalamityX11]

Better idea after gm 1 to get a feel for the remaining holes.

But OL to throw it out there... TE is far from a hole IMO, CB will be, FS would be a target IF a top tier is available....

 

[numone9er]

Are you talking about this year? If that's the case, we won't be filling any holes with anything worthwhile.

If you're talking going forward, QB is still a hole, as is CB (if we don't come out of round 1 next year with at least one of those positions addressed the draft is a failure). The pass rush looks decent, and Aldon should develop. I'm bigger on Goldson than everyone else, so I'm happy with our safeties.

This will be a big year for our WRs. If Edwards performs like a #1 (and signs long term) then what we have gotten out of Crabtree will be good for a #2 (#3 if you count Davis). Morgan I believe is a FA, but not a priority at all, particularly if Edwards re-ups. I like Williams in the slot and would let Ginn walk most likely.

At TE, another body is needed, although Harbaugh has said that Miller were serve as FB/TE. I really like Davis and Walker.

On the OL, I don't know. There's a lot of young talent, and the question is will it develop. I wouldn't be overly concerned with it going into next year.

I like the DL, but Sop has struggled at NT in the past and I'm not sold on RJF or Williams. I wouldn't mind getting a NT on day 2 next year (rnd 2 or 3). We also have to, eventually, look into a replacement for J Smith (or McDonald as I think McDonald is better suited for the right side than the left).

Nice post imac. You're right, 1st round has to be QB or CB. Hopefully a QB with the name of either Luck, Barkley, or Jones, but if we can't get any of them then the question becomes which CB is worthy of a 1st round pick? Hosley? Cliff Harris? Gilmore?

You are dead on with Justin Smith. Next year we have to address the Defensive line and we may have to do it in FA.

I'm not concerned at all with our Safeties. Even if Goldson goes i'm more than content with Whitner and Smith as our safeties. Re-signing Carlos Rogers will more than likely also be a priority.

 

[clyde_carbon]

QB, CB, and until Aldon Smith proves himself, an elite pass-rusher. Hopefully he and Kap step up so we focus on other stuff.

 

[numone9er]

QB, CB, and until Aldon Smith proves himself, an elite pass-rusher. Hopefully he and Kap step up so we focus on other stuff.

If Aldon doesn't prove himself this year as an "elite" pass rusher, would you want us to try and address it in the first round? I'm willing to give him at least a couple of years and possibly take one in later rounds.

As far as Kap goes, I wouldn't let him stand in the way of Luck, Barkley, or Jones. He's still a very raw player.

 

[clyde_carbon]

If Aldon doesn't prove himself this year as an "elite" pass rusher, would you want us to try and address it in the first round? I'm willing to give him at least a couple of years and possibly take one in later rounds.

As far as Kap goes, I wouldn't let him stand in the way of Luck, Barkley, or Jones. He's still a very raw player.

If the opportunity presents itself I would definitely consider it. I would not be looking for an OLB or forcing a pick, but if value is there, and Aldon Smith doesn't show much, we'd at least have to think about it.

 

[luckyluke22]

The other thought is to have two premier edge rushers. Pit just spent their money on their up and coming outside forces. So maybe round 1 CB, round 2 OLB or vice versa. This assuming QB isnt an issue. Then rd 3 will be a whole that develops or reveals as the season goes on.... That's my feeling... I think Harbaugh will be patient with QB, even if Luck is available- but let's hope out record doesn't give us a top 10!

 

[Arete Tzu]

Are you talking about this year? If that's the case, we won't be filling any holes with anything worthwhile.

If you're talking going forward, QB is still a hole, as is CB (if we don't come out of round 1 next year with at least one of those positions addressed the draft is a failure). The pass rush looks decent, and Aldon should develop. I'm bigger on Goldson than everyone else, so I'm happy with our safeties.

This will be a big year for our WRs. If Edwards performs like a #1 (and signs long term) then what we have gotten out of Crabtree will be good for a #2 (#3 if you count Davis). Morgan I believe is a FA, but not a priority at all, particularly if Edwards re-ups. I like Williams in the slot and would let Ginn walk most likely.

At TE, another body is needed, although Harbaugh has said that Miller were serve as FB/TE. I really like Davis and Walker.

On the OL, I don't know. There's a lot of young talent, and the question is will it develop. I wouldn't be overly concerned with it going into next year.

I like the DL, but Sop has struggled at NT in the past and I'm not sold on RJF or Williams. I wouldn't mind getting a NT on day 2 next year (rnd 2 or 3). We also have to, eventually, look into a replacement for J Smith (or McDonald as I think McDonald is better suited for the right side than the left).

I think we agree on everything other than Goldson. I really like his potential, but I remember the phrase "ahhhh Goldson!" leaving my mouth a few too many times.

His drop off isn't cause by any physical problems though, so that's a good thing. He is just missing things, and puts himself out of place more than I'd like. I'm holding out hope that he can be coached back up.

Is it mostly his potential that has you high on him? or the current level of play?

 

[shouldakepowens]

The other thought is to have two premier edge rushers. Pit just spent their money on their up and coming outside forces. So maybe round 1 CB, round 2 OLB or vice versa. This assuming QB isnt an issue. Then rd 3 will be a whole that develops or reveals as the season goes on.... That's my feeling... I think Harbaugh will be patient with QB, even if Luck is available- but let's hope out record doesn't give us a top 10!

......... no way we don't pick luck if were in position I don't care how patient harbaugh is

 

[Jtymer49er]

Hopefully Kap/Tolzien can be our franchise QB. Aldon can be our premiere edge rusher, Culliver can be our shut down CB, and Dobbs can be our future Justin Smith. Then we can do whatever we want in the draft.

 

[luckyluke22]

It would be tough if we had a top ten pick and QB is still a hole, but why did we move up to pick Kaep then?? My logical brain just says how wasteful to spend a second then a first. Especially with the second in the year prior (Mays) not working out.
I realize potential franchise QB ... So that is tougher than chewing glass to pass on... Like I said let's hope we don't come to that crossroad

 

[threelittleturds]

It would be tough if we had a top ten pick and QB is still a hole, but why did we move up to pick Kaep then?? My logical brain just says how wasteful to spend a second then a first. Especially with the second in the year prior (Mays) not working out.
I realize potential franchise QB ... So that is tougher than chewing glass to pass on... Like I said let's hope we don't come to that crossroad

Well, even if the 49ers go with a QB that early in next year's draft. There is nothing that says they can't keep Kaepernick and continue to develop him along with the better prospect. Maybe the 49ers could get lucky and it turns into a situation similar to what Philadelphia just had with Kolb.

 

[deep9er]

It would be tough if we had a top ten pick and QB is still a hole, but why did we move up to pick Kaep then?? My logical brain just says how wasteful to spend a second then a first. Especially with the second in the year prior (Mays) not working out.
I realize potential franchise QB ... So that is tougher than chewing glass to pass on... Like I said let's hope we don't come to that crossroad

cause you have to decide on Kaep based on what you know going into that draft? the second part under consideration - franchise QB - is just a scenario now, a low possibility.

unless Kaep or Tolzien are showing signs of "greatness", we can't pass on a franchise QB. the current quality NFL teams remain quality starting with their franchise QB's. we can't pass on the next "Tom Brady" cause it makes our 2011 2nd rounder look wasteful.

 

[luckyluke22]

That's just it, Kaep or Tolzien won't have a chance to show if they are great or not. Presuming Smith keeps the job and is serviceable.

So you have two rookie QB's who have been on the pine. Maybe they've done well in practice but they haven't played NFL games. So you can't evaluate them as the next Tom Brady or the next Ryan Leaf.

Now Alex leaves.... Do you draft Luck? If Harbaugh thinks he can win with Tolzien or Kaep I would pass on Luck. Yeah you could have a Philly situation or a San Diego situation (Rivers & Brees) but who knows....

Everything is so hypothetical I'd rather not wrap my brain around it all. Its like you started dating this girl, but if the prom queen becomes single do you dump your girl in the hopes the prom queen becomes marriage material?
But if it all boils down I personally would probably pass on Luck and go with what I got... Just sayin.

 

[deep9er]

That's just it, Kaep or Tolzien won't have a chance to show if they are great or not. Presuming Smith keeps the job and is serviceable.

So you have two rookie QB's who have been on the pine. Maybe they've done well in practice but they haven't played NFL games. So you can't evaluate them as the next Tom Brady or the next Ryan Leaf.

Now Alex leaves.... Do you draft Luck? If Harbaugh thinks he can win with Tolzien or Kaep I would pass on Luck. Yeah you could have a Philly situation or a San Diego situation (Rivers & Brees) but who knows....

Everything is so hypothetical I'd rather not wrap my brain around it all. Its like you started dating this girl, but if the prom queen becomes single do you dump your girl in the hopes the prom queen becomes marriage material?
But if it all boils down I personally would probably pass on Luck and go with what I got... Just sayin.

yeah ok, its all projections - hypothetical if you want to call it that?

my apologies if i'm making it complicated? if Kaep or Tolzien projects as good or even close to Luck, yeah we don't HAVE TO draft Luck? if neither of them project as good, then we draft Luck.

btw - your prom illustration doesn't quite apply, cause its saying you need to choose one or other? whereas the 49ers can choose to keep both 'franchise' QB's IF they want to? they don't have to keep both of them all their careers, but they can start with both.

 

[mem49er]

btw - your prom illustration doesn't quite apply, cause its saying you need to choose one or other? whereas the 49ers can choose to keep both 'franchise' QB's IF they want to? they don't have to keep both of them all their careers, but they can start with both.

I believe the French call it a menage a trois!

:charlie:

 

[luckyluke22]

Well you can have two girlfriends (or boyfriends) right? But you only marry one.... At least in a monogamous world... But its damn expensive and stressful to manage two women so why do it? haha

I see what you're saying in projecting Kaep/Tolz vs drafting Luck. I just have a hard time wrapping my finger around projecting their potential w/o seeing them in action: ie Tom Brady.

I think this debate could go on... and on... and on... and although I'd like a higher post count - when do we stop? lol

 

[SeattleNinersFan]

That's just it, Kaep or Tolzien won't have a chance to show if they are great or not. Presuming Smith keeps the job and is serviceable.

So you have two rookie QB's who have been on the pine. Maybe they've done well in practice but they haven't played NFL games. So you can't evaluate them as the next Tom Brady or the next Ryan Leaf.

Now Alex leaves.... Do you draft Luck? If Harbaugh thinks he can win with Tolzien or Kaep I would pass on Luck. Yeah you could have a Philly situation or a San Diego situation (Rivers & Brees) but who knows....

Everything is so hypothetical I'd rather not wrap my brain around it all. Its like you started dating this girl, but if the prom queen becomes single do you dump your girl in the hopes the prom queen becomes marriage material?
But if it all boils down I personally would probably pass on Luck and go with what I got... Just sayin.

so you only dated one girl at a time until you got married?