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I agree progress has been made in some areas, and regressions in others. So the question becomes, when the books balance out is he REALLY better than what we have seen this preseason?? One of the most telling comments i heard last night was when they were talking about the Ravens rookie QB in the 4th. That kid is a QB who happens to be athletic. Griffin right now is an athlete trying to be a QB.

Not disagreeing with this assessment , but what is the marker for his growth and development into a different style player? Preseason is not near enough a base for making any decision to me. He's gonna struggle. This is the first time he's been working this style of play. Don't see what's so problematic about him struggling a bit as long as we some continued progress as he moves forward...

I agree that if he starts the season, you have to roll with him and take your lumps. But to be honest, if the question is who gives us the best chance of winning right now running THIS offense... well at present Kirk is more capable. For all the progress we want to see in RG3, he is still making some head scratcher decisions. Still struggling in his reads, still struggling with accuracy and follow through. And taking two no contact sacks for loss... protect yourself yes. Sure. But once out of the pocket just throw the damn ball away.

There are going to be regressions along with progress. The important measure will come during the actual season. If it's only regression, then it's a HUGE problem, I agree. But that's not the scenario we are seeing here. There is a lot of pieces that have to come together for this O to click. Griff is just one of many moving pieces. And again, still way early in his development for a lot of assumptions I'm seeing from some skins faithful. Patience must be given. If he doesn't pan out, it is what it is.
 

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Snyder watches the same game that we do. You can bet he has concerns about robert's development. He wants to win. If Robert continues to struggle and it appears he will never become proficient, you can bet he would support pulling him. The price we paid for Robert is over with. As a business man, he knows that sometimes investments fail and the best course is to cut your losses. But we are not there yet.

+1. Agreed completely. But I think it would take Jay and Bruce telling him the same thing, that RGIII is not going to make the jump to be a good passer. We are not there yet.

Knowing RGIII's competitive nature and his work ethic, I would not bet against him shocking us all when the real season starts. Maybe I'm more hopeful than confident, but that's what I think happens.
 

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Its impossible to know for sure the exact reason(s), but 3 last place finishes in 4 years and the overall mishandling of RGIII would be all the grounds Snyder needed. One could include his ridiculous benching in the overall mishandling, but in the end, Shanny gave Snyder a whole lotta reasons to pull that plug.

Three last place finishes in four years with bar none the worst salary cap and roster situation in the Division, possibly the conference. And the proper handling of RG3 just might have been to never trade for him to begin with if there is even a shred of truth to the idea that Shanahan didnt really want him as the QB has hinted at numerous times.
 

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With the overall talent on this offense, the only thing that will stop them from being successful is the QB play. That said, patience is in order, certainly beyond preseason, and reasonably into the regular season to make sure that the RGIII project isn't going to succeed. Probably not 2 games, but hopefully not 16.

I think the Oline play makes a huge difference as well. We don't have the depth or talent there yet...either.
 

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Everyone is talking about how Cousin's is better, please he played against 2nd and 3rd stringers in an offense he's ran his whole life.
We all saw what he is the last 3 games of last season.
He's a career back up PERIOD! I was more concerned with our starting offensive line getting pushed around and not giving Griffin much time to pass, it seems like he's always pressured on every pass because he has no time to pass.
Our defense looked good but we'll see.
I wasn't happy with Griffin either but it looks like we have more issues than just our QB situation.
He's the starter and hopefully he gets more comfortable as the season progresses.

1) Cousins is also playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers...which means he doesn't have pro-bowlers Desean Jackson and Pierre Garcon to throw to, pro-bowler Alfred Morris to hand it to, and pro-bowler Trent Williams blocking for him.

2) He hasn't run this offense his entire life. He has been running this offense the same amount of time as RGIII. Perhaps, KC is better suited for this, an NFL offense.
 

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By the way guys and girls... until RG3 comes out and proves he is the man, what we have is a full blown (Quiet) QB controversy. At the end of the season last year when Shanahan got fired, it was RG3s job no matter what. If we are honest right now its Rg3s job to lose. If he continues to look average and we lose with the amount of fire power around him, I dont think it gets to the bye week before people start calling for KC. Its the nature of the beast.
 

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By the way guys and girls... until RG3 comes out and proves he is the man, what we have is a full blown (Quiet) QB controversy. At the end of the season last year when Shanahan got fired, it was RG3s job no matter what. If we are honest right now its Rg3s job to lose. If he continues to look average and we lose with the amount of fire power around him, I dont think it gets to the bye week before people start calling for KC. Its the nature of the beast.

Legit. Many will not have patience. Regardless, if there is not continued progress from Griff, the point is moot.

Ya gotta see progress along with a few regressions.
 

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Announcements I'd like to see.

"This Redskins game brought to you by Oneida Indian Reserve Casino".
 

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i think KC has in fact looked better then RG3 , can argue that , wont argue that

i also wont go overboard on a preseason game either

Rg3 cant play like that and us win nor can the o/line block like that and win

the penalty on the reed reception really turned the momentum
 

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Announcements I'd like to see.

"This Redskins game brought to you by Oneida Indian Reserve Casino".

Ain't ever going to happen. Halbritter is a corrupt POS, only interested in himself not the tribe he reps...smdh at him.
 

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No big surprise here

 
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