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People would have quit on josh Allen . So far that would have been a mistake
 

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Could miss a game or 2
 

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After that less than impressive showing tonight. WFT be facing a butthurt Ravens team next week. Should go swimmingly for the WFT no doubt.
 

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After that less than impressive showing tonight. WFT be facing a butthurt Ravens team next week. Should go swimmingly for the WFT no doubt.
Pretty much. Better than facing KC tho...lol
 

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I know Mahomes is the straw that stirs the drink, but man they have a lotta playmakers with speed on that team.
They do indeed. I was watching the game and my jaw just kept dropping. Sheesh, KC made the Ravens their bitch tonite.
 

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From the article posted above...

When Ron Rivera elected to hold Washington’s remaining timeouts in the closing minutes of Sunday’s 34-20 loss to Cleveland, it felt familiar to former NFL tight end Logan Paulsen.

For the second straight week, Rivera effectively took the ball out of Dwayne Haskins’ hands, rather than stopping the clock to give his quarterback another chance to score.

Although he was reluctant to draw the comparison, it reminded Paulsen of when a similar situation played out in Washington in 2013, when then-head coach Mike Shanahan showed a lack of faith in Robert Griffin III.

“You asked me if I’ve seen it before and I remember being a part of a couple games in 2013 where Mike Shanahan elected to do that with Robert Griffin,” Paulsen told 106.7 The Fan’s Grant Paulsen and Danny Rouhier.

“One of the things that I’ve kind of kicked around in my head — and I don’t want to stir the pot, I don’t want to create a lot of controversy drawing a comparison to Robert — is I wonder about Rivera’s faith in Haskins’ development at this point,” he said.

“Like, are you putting that athlete and that player in a position to be successful, in a position where he can excel, in a two-minute drill?” he continued. “Based on how the offensive line was playing, based on his play up to that point, over the last two weeks, I would say probably no.
 
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And I think a lot of people would say, ‘Oh, he’s throwing (in) the towel,’ but I would say if you’re trying to build for the future, if you’re trying to cultivate confidence in a young player, maybe that’s the best way to do it. Maybe it’s to say I’m not gonna put you in a spot where you’re gonna throw your fourth pick on the day, a spot where you’re gonna have another sack-forced fumble, or get hit a whole bunch of times and make a whole bunch of errant throws and kind of put all of your weaknesses on full display.”

“I’m gonna give you an opportunity to play within the offense when the time’s there,” he continued, “and I’m not gonna hang you out to dry in this game, where we’re gonna have a tough time winning based on how he’s thrown the football the last two weeks, if that makes sense.”

Shanahan ultimately benched Griffin in favor of Kirk Cousins for the final three games of the 2013 season.

The former Washington tight end couldn’t conclusively connect Rivera’s decision to a lack of confidence in Haskins, saying a myriad of other factors could have been at play. For instance, he says Cleveland defenders Myles Garrett and Sheldon Richardson were playing “pretty prolific and aggressive” as the game wore on, or it could have been an indictment of Washington’s offense as a whole.

Regardless, as everyone piles on Haskins for his two-touchdown, three-interception performance, Logan Paulsen believes the criticism is warranted for the second-year passer. Haskins also took three sacks and fumbled twice.

I’m gonna preface this by saying that playing quarterback is a really tough position,” he said. “But that being said, it’s also arguably the most important position in sports, and when that guy doesn’t play well it makes it hard for football teams to be successful.”

“And everyone’s entitled to an off day, and I think his off day was pretty off, but nobody’s perfect,” he added. “And I would say that one of the reasons it’s so frustrating – his level of play – was that I thought the rest of the team played pretty well. The defense played pretty good. The rest of the skill guys played pretty good.”

“I thought Scott Turner called a nice game and the offense looked a little bit more upbeat, it looked a little bit more dynamic, and all of those things are really positive,” he continued. “And I really felt like the defense came out and kind of put their foot down on those first couple drives and said, ‘You’re not gonna be able to run the football against us.’

‘But unfortunately, those turnovers, they led to some attrition along that defensive front. So a long answer short, yeah, I think some of that criticism is warranted of him today, because I thought the team played well enough to win the game, if that makes sense.”
 

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That’s pretty much how I’ve felt about RR not using the timeouts. Haskins started off the game doing pretty well. In fact we actually took the lead in the fourth quarter after 3 turnovers, by then he was starting to fall apart and I’m sure RR figured it was time to back off and not let the qbs confidence get any worse.
 

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And I think a lot of people would say, ‘Oh, he’s throwing (in) the towel,’ but I would say if you’re trying to build for the future, if you’re trying to cultivate confidence in a young player, maybe that’s the best way to do it. Maybe it’s to say I’m not gonna put you in a spot where you’re gonna throw your fourth pick on the day, a spot where you’re gonna have another sack-forced fumble, or get hit a whole bunch of times and make a whole bunch of errant throws and kind of put all of your weaknesses on full display.”

“I’m gonna give you an opportunity to play within the offense when the time’s there,” he continued, “and I’m not gonna hang you out to dry in this game, where we’re gonna have a tough time winning based on how he’s thrown the football the last two weeks, if that makes sense.”

Shanahan ultimately benched Griffin in favor of Kirk Cousins for the final three games of the 2013 season.

The former Washington tight end couldn’t conclusively connect Rivera’s decision to a lack of confidence in Haskins, saying a myriad of other factors could have been at play. For instance, he says Cleveland defenders Myles Garrett and Sheldon Richardson were playing “pretty prolific and aggressive” as the game wore on, or it could have been an indictment of Washington’s offense as a whole.

Regardless, as everyone piles on Haskins for his two-touchdown, three-interception performance, Logan Paulsen believes the criticism is warranted for the second-year passer. Haskins also took three sacks and fumbled twice.

I’m gonna preface this by saying that playing quarterback is a really tough position,” he said. “But that being said, it’s also arguably the most important position in sports, and when that guy doesn’t play well it makes it hard for football teams to be successful.”

“And everyone’s entitled to an off day, and I think his off day was pretty off, but nobody’s perfect,” he added. “And I would say that one of the reasons it’s so frustrating – his level of play – was that I thought the rest of the team played pretty well. The defense played pretty good. The rest of the skill guys played pretty good.”

“I thought Scott Turner called a nice game and the offense looked a little bit more upbeat, it looked a little bit more dynamic, and all of those things are really positive,” he continued. “And I really felt like the defense came out and kind of put their foot down on those first couple drives and said, ‘You’re not gonna be able to run the football against us.’

‘But unfortunately, those turnovers, they led to some attrition along that defensive front. So a long answer short, yeah, I think some of that criticism is warranted of him today, because I thought the team played well enough to win the game, if that makes sense.”
I considered that. Why put a young guy in position to fail again or at all. Some day the training wheels have to come off though. I think I have mixed feelings about Logan's idea. I sort of get it that you don't want the kid to make another mistake and hurt his confidence while at the same time there is no better way to learn.
 

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That’s pretty much how I’ve felt about RR not using the timeouts. Haskins started off the game doing pretty well. In fact we actually took the lead in the fourth quarter after 3 turnovers, by then he was starting to fall apart and I’m sure RR figured it was time to back off and not let the qbs confidence get any worse.
That’s why I’ve been suspect about this whole ‘protect our injuries’ line he’s been taking. His actions of not pulling star players and/or not kneeling didn’t back that line of thought. It was coach speak imo
 

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I considered that. Why put a young guy in position to fail again or at all. Some day the training wheels have to come off though. I think I have mixed feelings about Logan's idea. I sort of get it that you don't want the kid to make another mistake and hurt his confidence while at the same time there is no better way to learn.
Dunno, could be either way. I’m fine with that. Just don’t use the old, ‘protect my players from injury’ excuse. Just say no comment.
 
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