Series Thread: Rangers Travel to Houston for Three Games with the Astros July 24-26

[saddles]

Texas assigned 12th-round RHP Paul Bonzagni to the rookie squad, the first 2023 pick to receive a roster spot.

 

[Bmurph]

If St Louis is willing to discuss Arenado, what about Goldschmidt?

I would take both. Both really good hitters

The Cardinals are having a disappointing season, having fallen to 46-57 and 9.5 games back of a playoff spot. President of baseball operations John Mozeliak admitted a couple of weeks ago that the club would have to make moves aimed at improving the 2024 club. However, he also maintained that moving a key player like Arenado or Paul Goldschmidt wasn’t in their plans. “I don’t have any intentions of trading anybody like them,” he said, before leaving the door open to an offer that could change his mind. “If you’re willing to listen on anything, you have to understand (anything’s possible), but I doubt that would happen.”

 

[Bmurph]

Please do not give up value for Joe Kelly, Lance Lynn, Stroman or anyone that is not a significant upgrade.

Let’s see if Dana Brown or Chris Young is willing to go BIG in their first trade deadline opportunity or if they play conservatively…..Does either make moves and if so how BIG or does one or both stand pat?

 

[scotsman1948]

Please do not give up value for Joe Kelly, Lance Lynn, Stroman or anyone that is not a significant upgrade.

Let’s see if Dana Brown or Chris Young is willing to go BIG in their first trade deadline opportunity or if they play conservatively…..Does either make moves and if so how BIG or does one or both stand pat?

Who would you call a significant upgrade

 

[WilltheThrill]

Who would you call a significant upgrade

Arenado or Goldschmidt, for starters. And despite his less-than-stellar ERA and bloated salary, Scherzer qualifies as well. I’d trust him 10 times out of 10 over Jon Gray in a pivotal playoff game. I’d also say Soto, Snell, and Hader.

I’d just about put Bellinger in that category as well. He has been the best hitter in baseball since July 1, hitting almost .500 with tons of HR. He looks like the Bellinger that won MVP again. And I’d include Bednar as a significant upgrade, just because he’d be replacing some bum like King, Rodriguez, etc.

 

[Senator_fan]

There are a while lot of people who want you to ignore ERA when strikeout rates are high. I had someone tell me that, more or less, on Twitter when I mentioned I didn't want Lynn. I told him when they started determining who wins by which team's pitching struck out the most batters, then i would ignore ERA.

When you are a reliever with an ERA of 5 you are getting hosed some of the time even if you strike out the side. There’s no margin for error in the playoffs.

 

[scotsman1948]

Arenado or Goldschmidt, for starters. And despite his less-than-stellar ERA and bloated salary, Scherzer qualifies as well. I’d trust him 10 times out of 10 over Jon Gray in a pivotal playoff game. I’d also say Soto, Snell, and Hader.

I’d just about put Bellinger in that category as well. He has been the best hitter in baseball since July 1, hitting almost .500 with tons of HR. He looks like the Bellinger that won MVP again. And I’d include Bednar as a significant upgrade, just because he’d be replacing some bum like King, Rodriguez, etc.

Other than Scherzer what other starters

 

[WilltheThrill]

Other than Scherzer what other starters

Keller from the Pirates and Civale from the Guardians would both upgrade the rotation. They’re better than Perez, Heaney, and Bradford and at the very least on par with Dunning and Gray.

 

[scotsman1948]

When you are a reliever with an ERA of 5 you are getting hosed some of the time even if you strike out the side. There’s no margin for error in the playoffs.

And a reliever can appear in 40+ games usually an inning at a time and if he has a bad inning or 2 he will end up with a high ERA

 

[scotsman1948]

Keller from the Pirates and Civale from the Guardians would both upgrade the rotation. They’re better than Perez, Heaney, and Bradford and at the very least on par with Dunning and Gray.

All good choices

 

[WilltheThrill]

I’d also echo Saddles’ suggestion of Hendricks. He’s a notch or two below the others, and he’s not a “major” upgrade. But while he’s perhaps the worst strikeout pitcher in baseball, he’s excellent at limiting damage to 2-3 runs and keeping his team in games.

If we landed one of the more premier arms I mentioned above and then Hendricks for the back of the rotation, we’d be in good shape and could afford to bolster the bullpen with Heaney or Bradford.

 

[scotsman1948]

I’d also echo Saddles’ suggestion of Hendricks. He’s a notch or two below the others, and he’s not a “major” upgrade. But while he’s perhaps the worst strikeout pitcher in baseball, he’s excellent at limiting damage to 2-3 runs and keeping his team in games.

If we landed one of the more premier arms I mentioned above and then Hendricks for the back of the rotation, we’d be in good shape and could afford to bolster the bullpen with Heaney or Bradford.

We’ve got several Hendricks types already on the team. Rather see us go after a quality #3 or better rather than another #5 starter

 

[saddles]

And a reliever can appear in 40+ games usually an inning at a time and if he has a bad inning or 2 he will end up with a high ERA

The guy in question, Joe Kelly has given up runsbinn7 of his last 17 outings amd it looks like he has averaged no more than 1 inning per outing. That is not good at all. Of course, he has also struck out 22, which would be very impressive, except for all of those runs he also allowed.

 

[saddles]

We’ve got several Hendricks types already on the team. Rather see us go after a quality #3 or better rather than another #5 starter

If you went by ERA, Hendricks would be our third best starter, just ahead of Gray. Bradford is trending that way, himself.

 

[scotsman1948]

The guy in question, Joe Kelly has given up runsbinn7 of his last 17 outings amd it looks like he has averaged no more than 1 inning per outing. That is not good at all. Of course, he has also struck out 22, which would be very impressive, except for all of those runs he also allowed.

actually I’ve not in favor of Kelly either. I was actually talking about Alex Lange from Detroit. He’s appeared in 42 games, 41.2 innings, given up 26 hits and 18 earned runs and has 17 saves.

They’re saying the Rangers are looking to go for a starter & reliever package so maybe Eduardo Rodriguez and Lange

 

[saddles]

I'm kinda surprised Juan Soto's name doesn't get mentioned more in trade talks.

Padres Reportedly Willing To Listen To Offers On Juan Soto; Trade Seen As Unlikely

The Padres have signaled a willingness to hear trade offers on Juan Soto, reports Jon Heyman of the New York Post. …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

 

[saddles]

actually I’ve not in favor of Kelly either. I was actually talking about Alex Lange from Detroit. He’s appeared in 42 games, 41.2 innings, given up 26 hits and 18 earned runs and has 17 saves.

They’re saying the Rangers are looking to go a starter & reliever package so maybe Eduardo Rodriguez and Lange

His last 4 or 5 games have been better, but he went through a very rough stretch in the 14 appearances before that.

He also has 4 more years of control left so he would be costly without having much of a track record. He would be a gamble, but he could pay off. You just never know about these relievers longterm.

 

[saddles]

 

[scotsman1948]

His last 4 or 5 games have been better, but he went through a very rough stretch in the 14 appearances before that.

He also has 4 more years of control left so he would be costly without having much of a track record. He would be a gamble, but he could pay off. You just never know about these relievers longterm.

Think he’s better than anything we’ve got outside of Burke, Smith & Chapman

 

[saddles]

Think he’s better than anything we’ve got outside of Burke, Smith & Chapman

You're reaching for some low hanging fruit there.