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Series Thread: Rangers to bury the 'Stros in Houston 8/5-8/7

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I saw this on a number of websites but not positive:

Like muscle strains, contusions are grade 1, 2 or 3 depending on the severity.

Nevertheless. Contusion = bruise. Not worried.
 

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I could be wrong, but I got a hunch Holland comes off this injury like he did in 2014. I think he'll be nails. Just a gut feeling. Could be gas.
I hope you are right on this. It would be great to see.
 

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So the bullpen...I am loving it right now. Their ability to shorten a game will be valuable going forward.
 

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So the bullpen...I am loving it right now. Their ability to shorten a game will be valuable going forward.
That looks like a lights out BP. It will put pressure on the other team knowing they do not want to be down when it gets to the 6th or 7th inning. Nice to have.
 

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I wonder if a couple more nailbiters from Dyson has the Rangers thinking about Jeffress in the 9th and moving Dyson back to 7th or 8th.

Also hoping Lucroy and Odor switch spots in the order going forward.
 

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Harrell has control issues. That is just him. He did pitch 6 innings in his 1st start so why are some of you acting like he will pitch just 3-5 innings in every start. Get the ball to the pen with the lead in the 6th or 7th and it is lights out. We are deep enough to handle that.
Some people are concerned because his control is off-the-charts bad. It's unsustainable at this rate. He did last 6 innings in his first start, but it was anything but good. Had you watched tonight, you would have seen him walk three straight batters on a total of 13 pitches, including walking in a run. His ball to strike ratio is currently worse than any Rangers starter this year. It is way beyond "control issues". Unless he improved significantly, he's not going to make it to 5 innings very often.
 

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I wonder if a couple more nailbiters from Dyson has the Rangers thinking about Jeffress in the 9th and moving Dyson back to 7th or 8th.

Also hoping Lucroy and Odor switch spots in the order going forward.
Allowing the runner to take 2nd led to that run. But he has just the 1 blown save since taking the closers job.
 

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Some people are concerned because his control is off-the-charts bad. It's unsustainable at this rate. He did last 6 innings in his first start, but it was anything but good. Had you watched tonight, you would have seen him walk three straight batters on a total of 13 pitches, including walking in a run. His ball to strike ratio is currently worse than any Rangers starter this year. It is way beyond "control issues". Unless he improved significantly, he's not going to make it to 5 innings very often.
I knew he had control issues when we got him but saw he seems to wiggle out of it much of the time. I wondered before this game how he was going to handle pitching against his old team in a big game.
 

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Allowing the runner to take 2nd led to that run. But he has just the 1 blown save since taking the closers job.
Oh I agree at this point. Just having flashbacks of "John Wetteland saves" whenever he takes the mound lately.
 

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Another Silver Boot victory.
 

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Some people are concerned because his control is off-the-charts bad. It's unsustainable at this rate. He did last 6 innings in his first start, but it was anything but good. Had you watched tonight, you would have seen him walk three straight batters on a total of 13 pitches, including walking in a run. His ball to strike ratio is currently worse than any Rangers starter this year. It is way beyond "control issues". Unless he improved significantly, he's not going to make it to 5 innings very often.


Let's be pragmatic here, here is hoping we get 2 or 3 starts tops needed out of him. When we got him, we trusted he would be at least at a minimum a slight upgrade over Cheech Nick or Lohse. I still think that is true. Is he what I prefer? No. Our obvious weakness is young near ready minor league starters. We really need to do better with this.

However, we avoided trading more for a rental which I have definitely regretted in the past so I think we bear with this. We also did not overpay on Sale. But best case scenario, Dutch is ready and yes we do hope he has some velo back and a slider.

In the meanwhile let's hope it sustains 2 more starts
 

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On other fronts, I am quite interested how Yanks handle AROD and his remaining contract $ due. Perhaps some precedent for a guy like Prince if ins money recoup is not doable.

On other note at least Josh has shown some openness to extensive MILB work before or if being added to roster. This is the harsh reality once the greatness has left
 

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I wonder if a couple more nailbiters from Dyson has the Rangers thinking about Jeffress in the 9th and moving Dyson back to 7th or 8th.

Also hoping Lucroy and Odor switch spots in the order going forward.

No. Dyson did fine tonight. He gave up one solid hit ball. The other was a seeing eye grounder that found a hole. This line of thinking is stupid and needs to go away.
 

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Allowing the runner to take 2nd led to that run. But he has just the 1 blown save since taking the closers job.

That defensive indifference made no sense to me.
 

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Let's be pragmatic here, here is hoping we get 2 or 3 starts tops needed out of him. When we got him, we trusted he would be at least at a minimum a slight upgrade over Cheech Nick or Lohse. I still think that is true. Is he what I prefer? No. Our obvious weakness is young near ready minor league starters. We really need to do better with this.

However, we avoided trading more for a rental which I have definitely regretted in the past so I think we bear with this. We also did not overpay on Sale. But best case scenario, Dutch is ready and yes we do hope he has some velo back and a slider.

In the meanwhile let's hope it sustains 2 more starts
Good points.
 

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That defensive indifference made no sense to me.
There have been times I have thought that should not be charged as an earned run unless there is an extra base hit or other hits follow. But I have never been a fan of just allowing a guy to take 2nd because if you hold him at 1st your best opportunity may be a force at 2nd.
 

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There have been times I have thought that should not be charged as an earned run unless there is an extra base hit or other hits follow. But I have never been a fan of just allowing a guy to take 2nd because if you hold him at 1st your best opportunity may be a force at 2nd.

Not when you're leading by only two runs.
 

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Not when you're leading by only two runs.
Right. I think there actually more negatives that come out of it than positives. I think too many managers do things just because that is the way it is done now instead of just be an individual. One of the things I like about Joe Maddon.
 
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