Series Thread: Rangers play lowly Mariners in Seattle 7/22-7/24

[Bmurph]

He is still getting in trouble.

Pirates Reinstate, Suspend Keone Kela

Good riddance, glad to get what we got for him and glad he's gone

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Sorry folks not staying up late for this one.

 

[darrylgann]

The Mariners are a better team than the Rangers at the moment

Mariners know how to blow up a team and build it back up. Something JD should learn from but, I’m afraid, never will.

 

[saddles]

Pretty strong words for TR.

 

[saddles]

Rangers' Jose Leclerc, Chris Martin Drawing Interest

 

[saddles]

Rangers' slumping bats could be due to team's abundance of meetings, but here's why they continue to take place

For about 10 minutes Monday, Rangers manager Chris Woodward acknowledged a theory

Yes, he said, it is entirely possible that a part of the offense's recent, but dramatic, slump could be due in part to burnout - or at least fatigue - from the number of meetings the team has held this year to game-plan for the night's opposing pitcher.

Then he excused himself.

He had to get to the hitters' meeting to prepare for the night's opposing pitcher.

The message: The Rangers are asking a lot out from their hitters this year and there may be some temporary sacrifices along the way, but they are going to continue to be nudged, if not outright pushed.

"The hardest thing for young players is to find that invisible line where they feel like they are being pushed and challenged without feeling like their brains are blowing out," Woodward said. "It's not going to stop. You are either learning and growing or you are being passed by. This is the most difficult time. We've got to know how to handle it.

"I'm happy some of our guys may be mentally worn out," he added. "They are putting a lot into it. Sometimes you end up sacrificing something in the short-term to get progress rather than just doing the same thing over and over. From spring training on, I've asked these guys if they were ready to be a champion today. And with each day, the expectations that go along with that can change."
...

The Rangers have daily hitters' meetings, which is a new addition to the routine this year. In the past, the Rangers mostly had advance meetings before each series and occasional hitters' gatherings. Now, they have hitters meetings more often than batting practice. There are often days when batting practice is optional; that is not the case with the hitters' meetings.

"We've asked a lot of our guys," Woodward said. "I had a feeling something like this would happen. I don't think it has to last that long, but it gets overwhelming and it can cause some mental fatigue. You go through it now, and next year the mental fatigue may come later and last a shorter amount of time. We are trying to speed that up as much as we can."

While Woodward did not single any players out as dealing with mental fatigue at the moment, he did give Joey Gallo the night off. And Gallo's game, of late, has born all the signs of a player going through something.

Gallo has had a strenuous stretch, moving primarily to center field, then going through the oft mind-numbing rehab process for a strained oblique and then skipping the All-Star break to participate in his first All-Star Game. He has gone into an 0 for 14 stretch over the last four games and was 3 for 30 since the All-Star break. He has 17 strikeouts since the All-Star break, too, including a pair of four-strikeout games in Houston.

 

[darrylgann]

Rangers' slumping bats could be due to team's abundance of meetings, but here's why they continue to take place

For about 10 minutes Monday, Rangers manager Chris Woodward acknowledged a theory

Yes, he said, it is entirely possible that a part of the offense's recent, but dramatic, slump could be due in part to burnout - or at least fatigue - from the number of meetings the team has held this year to game-plan for the night's opposing pitcher.

Then he excused himself.

He had to get to the hitters' meeting to prepare for the night's opposing pitcher.

The message: The Rangers are asking a lot out from their hitters this year and there may be some temporary sacrifices along the way, but they are going to continue to be nudged, if not outright pushed.

"The hardest thing for young players is to find that invisible line where they feel like they are being pushed and challenged without feeling like their brains are blowing out," Woodward said. "It's not going to stop. You are either learning and growing or you are being passed by. This is the most difficult time. We've got to know how to handle it.

"I'm happy some of our guys may be mentally worn out," he added. "They are putting a lot into it. Sometimes you end up sacrificing something in the short-term to get progress rather than just doing the same thing over and over. From spring training on, I've asked these guys if they were ready to be a champion today. And with each day, the expectations that go along with that can change."
...

The Rangers have daily hitters' meetings, which is a new addition to the routine this year. In the past, the Rangers mostly had advance meetings before each series and occasional hitters' gatherings. Now, they have hitters meetings more often than batting practice. There are often days when batting practice is optional; that is not the case with the hitters' meetings.

"We've asked a lot of our guys," Woodward said. "I had a feeling something like this would happen. I don't think it has to last that long, but it gets overwhelming and it can cause some mental fatigue. You go through it now, and next year the mental fatigue may come later and last a shorter amount of time. We are trying to speed that up as much as we can."

While Woodward did not single any players out as dealing with mental fatigue at the moment, he did give Joey Gallo the night off. And Gallo's game, of late, has born all the signs of a player going through something.

Gallo has had a strenuous stretch, moving primarily to center field, then going through the oft mind-numbing rehab process for a strained oblique and then skipping the All-Star break to participate in his first All-Star Game. He has gone into an 0 for 14 stretch over the last four games and was 3 for 30 since the All-Star break. He has 17 strikeouts since the All-Star break, too, including a pair of four-strikeout games in Houston.

That sounds like a lot of huey. Welcome back .500!

 

[Duane1952]

If this doesn't convince JD that he needs to sell. Nothing will.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Seems like woody needs to get more intellectual type guys in the club house ( similar to forsythe).

Probably a lot of the types of guys the dodgers have. The sooner we jettison some of these Banny meatheads, the better.

 

[saddles]

Seems like woody needs to get more intellectual type guys in the club house ( similar to forsythe).

Probably a lot of the types of guys the dodgers have. The sooner we jettison some of these Banny meatheads, the better.

Which of the players currently on the club did Banny sign to a contract or trade for?

It sounds like Woody is going to wear out his welcome faster than Banny did.

 

[Kelleyman]

Looks like we lost last night. Odor 3-4.

Makes no marketing sense to be in a west coast division. You lose an audience who have to work early

 

[WastinSomeTime]

One of the problems we have and we all knew would be a problem is starting pitchers. If Minor and Lynn don't win then we are hurting. But at the same time quit jacking with Sampson and others. Let them just keep going out there every 5th day and quit moving guys from starting to the pen and vice versa. It is what it is.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

Montero was with the Mets from 2014-17, going 6-16 with a 5.38 ERA and a 1.71 WHIP in 30 starts and 28 relief appearances. He missed all of '18 after undergoing Tommy John surgery on March 7 that year and was signed by the Rangers as a free agent this winter.


Time to cue the moaning about "another Tommy John" rehab pitcher...

 

[Bmurph]

Rangers' slumping bats could be due to team's abundance of meetings, but here's why they continue to take place

For about 10 minutes Monday, Rangers manager Chris Woodward acknowledged a theory

Yes, he said, it is entirely possible that a part of the offense's recent, but dramatic, slump could be due in part to burnout - or at least fatigue - from the number of meetings the team has held this year to game-plan for the night's opposing pitcher.

Then he excused himself.

He had to get to the hitters' meeting to prepare for the night's opposing pitcher.

The message: The Rangers are asking a lot out from their hitters this year and there may be some temporary sacrifices along the way, but they are going to continue to be nudged, if not outright pushed.

"The hardest thing for young players is to find that invisible line where they feel like they are being pushed and challenged without feeling like their brains are blowing out," Woodward said. "It's not going to stop. You are either learning and growing or you are being passed by. This is the most difficult time. We've got to know how to handle it.

"I'm happy some of our guys may be mentally worn out," he added. "They are putting a lot into it. Sometimes you end up sacrificing something in the short-term to get progress rather than just doing the same thing over and over. From spring training on, I've asked these guys if they were ready to be a champion today. And with each day, the expectations that go along with that can change."
...

The Rangers have daily hitters' meetings, which is a new addition to the routine this year. In the past, the Rangers mostly had advance meetings before each series and occasional hitters' gatherings. Now, they have hitters meetings more often than batting practice. There are often days when batting practice is optional; that is not the case with the hitters' meetings.

"We've asked a lot of our guys," Woodward said. "I had a feeling something like this would happen. I don't think it has to last that long, but it gets overwhelming and it can cause some mental fatigue. You go through it now, and next year the mental fatigue may come later and last a shorter amount of time. We are trying to speed that up as much as we can."

While Woodward did not single any players out as dealing with mental fatigue at the moment, he did give Joey Gallo the night off. And Gallo's game, of late, has born all the signs of a player going through something.

Gallo has had a strenuous stretch, moving primarily to center field, then going through the oft mind-numbing rehab process for a strained oblique and then skipping the All-Star break to participate in his first All-Star Game. He has gone into an 0 for 14 stretch over the last four games and was 3 for 30 since the All-Star break. He has 17 strikeouts since the All-Star break, too, including a pair of four-strikeout games in Houston.

That is all a bunch of BS excuses for a team that is in a slump.They all are just not hitting

 

[Bmurph]

Montero was with the Mets from 2014-17, going 6-16 with a 5.38 ERA and a 1.71 WHIP in 30 starts and 28 relief appearances. He missed all of '18 after undergoing Tommy John surgery on March 7 that year and was signed by the Rangers as a free agent this winter.


Time to cue the moaning about "another Tommy John" rehab pitcher...

So he sucked before TJ surgery and the Rangers signed him, who's surprised about this?

 

[Bmurph]

One of the problems we have and we all knew would be a problem is starting pitchers. If Minor and Lynn don't win then we are hurting. But at the same time quit jacking with Sampson and others. Let them just keep going out there every 5th day and quit moving guys from starting to the pen and vice versa. It is what it is.

I agree with not bouncing guys back and forth. Then again when you sign Smyly, Miller and Volquez and they dont even make it through the 1st half of the season, you shouldn't be surprised you are having to make it up as you go along. More of the stupid ass moves of the Rangers FO. They were doomed from the start in the SP category and got lucky that Minor and Lynn were better than expected but know reality is rearing it's ugly head.

 

[DT LUNA]

Sorry folks not staying up late for this one.

Didn't blame ya. Checked it to em' early myself.

 

[saddles]

 

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