Series Thread: Rangers Angelic visit to La La land 7/18-7/20

[RevSader]

Yes. Any other argument is invalid. They scored enough runs the past two games to win both of them, and the pitching shit the bed. Texas has an over 8 ERA in July. Don't give a fuck what the offense is doing if the pitching is allowing over 8 runs every 9 innings.

okay it's 7.17 ERA for July...

ugh so bad

 

[romeo212000]

Not the issue. 6 runs for this lineup against a patchwork Angels staff is not, as my father would say, cause for anyone to come in and flop it on the table.

That doesn't change the fact that 6 runs is enough to win. The last two nights are no different than what the offense was doing when on their hot run. The difference is pitching.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

That doesn't change the fact that 6 runs is enough to win. The last two nights are no different than what the offense was doing when on their hot run. The difference is pitching.

Awesome. So what you're saying is that all the pissy little comments about the offense from last night are not rooted in any sort of reality, it's just a lot of y'all needing to whine. Well that certainly is good to know.

 

[RevSader]

Awesome. So what you're saying is that all the pissy little comments about the offense from last night are not rooted in any sort of reality, it's just a lot of y'all needing to whine. Well that certainly is good to know.

Individual at bats will always garner angry comments. Rua and Mitch both had some shitty ABs. Doesn't mean the offense as a whole was terrible or is a problem.

 

[WilltheThrill]

Because they scored 6 against the fucking Angels?

So how many are they supposed to score? How many would a "good" offense score?

Why don't you take a look at how many runs other teams are scoring against the Angels. I guess they all suck too?

This argument of yours that because the offense isn't putting up more than 6 runs against "bad" teams, that makes them a problem, is just laughable.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Individual at bats will always garner angry comments. Rua and Mitch both had some shitty ABs. Doesn't mean the offense as a whole was terrible or is a problem.

Well, there's also:

Roogie's spot in the lineup
Mazara likely needing a AAA return
Fielder
Choo being hurt
lack of Profar
baserunning mistakes

but otherwise, everything is hunky dory

 

[True Rangers Fan]

This argument of yours that because the offense isn't putting up more than 6 runs against "bad" teams, that makes them a problem, is just laughable.

My argument is that there are issues with the offense. I know you think they are rocking and rolling, but they aren't from my vantage point.

 

[WilltheThrill]

Well, there's also:

Roogie's spot in the lineup
Mazara likely needing a AAA return
Fielder
Choo being hurt
lack of Profar
baserunning mistakes

but otherwise, everything is hunky dory

Choo being hurt, lack of Profar, and base running mistakes are all temporary issues. They aren't indicative of an offense that sucks in general.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Choo being hurt, lack of Profar, and base running mistakes are all temporary issues. They aren't indicative of an offense that sucks in general.

Oh, those all seem like they're going away sometime soon, do they?

 

[DT LUNA]

My argument is that there are issues with the offense. I know you think they are rocking and rolling, but they aren't from my vantage point.

They could be better but six runs is enough if pitching is what it should be and it's not.

 

[jaar01]

So got to witness first hand last night. What does it say about your organizational depth when Kyle Lohse is pitching for you? And I don't know if it was Banny's or Lohse fault for throwing a 3-1 slider over the plate against Pujols with 1st base open, but that is just plain bad baseball right there. Offense did enough to win. Pitching is downright abysmal. Rinse and repeat.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

They could be better but six runs is enough if pitching is what it should be and it's not.

yes, please don't make the mistake that saying something is wrong with the offense is somehow ignoring the issues with the pitching.

 

[WilltheThrill]

My argument is that there are issues with the offense. I know you think they are rocking and rolling, but they aren't from my vantage point.

I never said they are "rocking and rolling". You are jumping ahead and putting words into peoples' mouths to try and prove your point. I said the offense isn't the problem right now. Could they be better? Of course. But you're arguing that because they could be better, that means they "suck". Not true. While the offense could be a bit better, the pitching is losing them the games. The pitching is awful, not the offense.

Our bullpen ranks 29th out of 30. Our starting rotation is decimated by injuries and on most nights isn't making it out of the 5th inning. Yet our offense ranks 7th in MLB in runs. The offense is not the problem.

 

[DT LUNA]

yes, please don't make the mistake that saying something is wrong with the offense is somehow ignoring the issues with the pitching.

You're becoming defensive and not realistic. Sorry you fail on this one.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

You're becoming defensive and not realistic. Sorry you fail on this one.

Sure.

 

[romeo212000]

Awesome. So what you're saying is that all the pissy little comments about the offense from last night are not rooted in any sort of reality, it's just a lot of y'all needing to whine. Well that certainly is good to know.

Only thing I bitched about were Mitch and Rua's pathetic at bats. Having those two back to back in the lineup killed us. I don't know who pissed in your corn flakes this morning, but suck it up, buttercup.

 

[romeo212000]

Well, there's also:

Roogie's spot in the lineup
Mazara likely needing a AAA return
Fielder
Choo being hurt
lack of Profar
baserunning mistakes

but otherwise, everything is hunky dory

Roogie looked great hitting in front of Beltre.

 

[RevSader]

Well, there's also:

Roogie's spot in the lineup
Mazara likely needing a AAA return
Fielder
Choo being hurt
lack of Profar
baserunning mistakes

but otherwise, everything is hunky dory

Those are all individual parts of a whole though. As a unit they get the job done more often than not despite individual struggles here and there.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

The pitching is awful, not the offense.

Honest question: do you think you're providing some sort of intuitive opinion with that?

The offense is not the problem.

And I'd sure love for you to point out where I said it was. Never once have I said "the offense is the reason games are being lost." Nope. Now, I guess I can see how someone could mistake "there are a lot of problems with the offense" with "the offense is the reason we are losing games".... wait, no I can't. Because I didn't fail reading comprehension in school.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Those are all individual parts of a whole though. As a unit they get the job done more often than not despite individual struggles here and there.

then if that's the case then I'd sure like everyone to shut the fuck up about Prince Fielder.