Random NFL talk

[Schmoopy1000]

Wrong number. You need to take the number at the very bottom

this makes it clearer

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

or here if you want a second opinion

NFL Salary Cap Space | Over The Cap

NFL salary cap space estimates for all 32 teams

overthecap.com

I thought we were in the top 10 in cap space.

 

[jarntt]

I thought we were in the top 10 in cap space.

We are #9 but remember these numbers are always changing as teams sign players. If we signed Micah tonight we would be #3 tomorrow morning.

 

[Clayton]

If people were to go break down his tape as a WR and a WR only, no chance he goes in the top 10.

I have a really tough time believing that someone selecting a WR in the first round would have taken him before Tet when all you are doing is looking at them as WR's.

I guess everyone has opinions.

 

[Thruthefog]

that fucking Joe Montana for me
but now I am showing my age!

would have thought the vikings was Hershel Walker

It would be Matt Millen for me.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[UK Cowboy]

I guess everyone has opinions.

That's the dude who said Mahomes is the 4th best QB in football, right?

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[Clayton]

That's the dude who said Mahomes is the 4th best QB in football, right?

I could find other clips of other people touting up Hunter as a WR prospect. For whatever reason Simms was just the first the popped up. I think PFF said that everyone they talked to had Hunter as WR1. I can't say myself that everyone had him as WR1.

That said, I do think teams were split on how to use Hunter. I'd imagine the Jags having Hunter as a full time CB and a 'speed merchant' WR is the easiest way to have him dual position. Possibly the only way. I'd imagine in that scenario he'd be a top 8 or so CB in the league and then Mecole Hardman on offense as a median guess as to what he'd be. His metrics as a WR in college were awesome, though, and its not like Colorado had a ton of talent around him on offense outside of Sanders who apparently the NFL didnt like as a QB. Maybe if he is a full time WR he is Garrett Wilson. Which player is more valuable?

 

[UK Cowboy]

I could find other clips of other people touting up Hunter as a WR prospect. For whatever reason Simms was just the first the popped up. I think PFF said that everyone they talked to had Hunter as WR1. I can't say myself that everyone had him as WR1.

That said, I do think teams were split on how to use Hunter. I'd imagine the Jags having Hunter as a full time CB and a 'speed merchant' WR is the easiest way to have him dual position. Possibly the only way. I'd imagine in that scenario he'd be a top 8 or so CB in the league and then Mecole Hardman on offense as a median guess as to what he'd be. His metrics as a WR in college were awesome, though, and its not like Colorado had a ton of talent around him on offense outside of Sanders who apparently the NFL didnt like as a QB. Maybe if he is a full time WR he is Garrett Wilson. Which player is more valuable?

Yeah I was really ragging on Simms, not your post. I agree about Hunter. If it were me. I would make him play exclusively as a corner year one. No WR at all. Once he has made thr transition and gotten comfortable as a pro. I would ease him into WR next year. I just dont see him as a great enough athlete to put half his time into e positions and play as well as he could play if he dedicated all his first year to one. I would rather have a great corner and a situational WR than a pretty good corner and pretty good WR

 

[Clayton]

Yeah I was really ragging on Simms, not your post. I agree about Hunter. If it were me. I would make him play exclusively as a corner year one. No WR at all. Once he has made thr transition and gotten comfortable as a pro. I would ease him into WR next year. I just dont see him as a great enough athlete to put half his time into e positions and play as well as he could play if he dedicated all his first year to one. I would rather have a great corner and a situational WR than a pretty good corner and pretty good WR

Jags appear to be starting him out mostly as a WR.

As was the plan since the start, the bulk of Hunter's playing time has come on offense up to this point, which, as GM James Gladstone put it, is where they wanted to onboard him at.

But through OTAs, Hunter has steadily been seeing his workload on defense continue to increase.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Jags appear to be starting him out mostly as a WR.

As was the plan since the start, the bulk of Hunter's playing time has come on offense up to this point, which, as GM James Gladstone put it, is where they wanted to onboard him at.

But through OTAs, Hunter has steadily been seeing his workload on defense continue to increase.

It will be interesting to see..even Deion couldn't be great at both

 

[Clayton]

It will be interesting to see..even Deion couldn't be great at both

To be fair to Deion, he also played another sport entirely, too

I do think being pro bowl level both sides is incredibly unlikely.

 

[wilwhite]

Wrong number. You need to take the number at the very bottom

this makes it clearer

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

or here if you want a second opinion

NFL Salary Cap Space | Over The Cap

NFL salary cap space estimates for all 32 teams

overthecap.com

Well, I guess I'm learning.

None of the numbers seem like they tell you the actual cap space, which as I understand it would be the cap minus the top-51 cap hits, including dead-money contracts. No?

 

[UK Cowboy]

To be fair to Deion, he also played another sport entirely, too

I do think being pro bowl level both sides is incredibly unlikely.

True...but Hunter ain't Deion. Great prospect, but not the same athlete

 

[jarntt]

Well, I guess I'm learning.

None of the numbers seem like they tell you the actual cap space, which as I understand it would be the cap minus the top-51 cap hits, including dead-money contracts. No?

So if you use the Cowboys as an example and look at the first link you can see these numbers. The official cap is $279,200,000. With Rollover and Adjustments "their Cap" is $306.99M. You only apply the top 51 salaries ($245M - you'd have to add them up to see this) and the Dead Money ($29.5) against that which total $274.5M. The difference between the two is your available cap space or $32.49M. Or just make it easy on yourself and look at the main page:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap