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Thinking if there were many more to name you'd have named them? and of course one excelled as a WR.

I have a couple to add to the list without looking stuff up.

How about Cris Carter & Warren Moon?
 

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Here's another one, I think. Don't remember him being a high pick.

My favorite Washington player of all time- Darrell Green.
 

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Not sure what you mean by the "black hole" reference? They just pick bad ones since the return? Cannot turn the bad ones into viable QBs? Let good QBs go (did do that once for sure)?

LOL, you don't know? When was the last QB to have a successful career in Cleveland? Brian Sipe? Baker had a chance and they got cold feet.
 

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LOL, you don't know? When was the last QB to have a successful career in Cleveland? Brian Sipe? Baker had a chance and they got cold feet.
No, I don't know what you meant by it. why I asked what you meant.....how about just answer?

Here were options again (or pick your own)......They pick bad ones since the return? Cannot turn the bad ones into viable QBs? Let good QBs go (agree this happened once with Baker...but was to bring in a guy nearly anyone at time thought was better)?

Or add your own explanation.

I'll add not being able to find a stud QB to me not the same as being a black hole for QBs.....again, why I asked what you meant.
 

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LOL, you don't know? When was the last QB to have a successful career in Cleveland? Brian Sipe? Baker had a chance and they got cold feet.

Kosar

The thing I see about Cleveland is they do all kinds of dumb stuff that the media seems to believe is a good idea. Probably not true but from the outside looking in that's what it appears like
 

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Here's another one, I think. Don't remember him being a high pick.

My favorite Washington player of all time- Darrell Green.
Picked right after Dan Marino IIRC
 

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Someone tell that to the Cleveland Indians owner. Cheap clown.
Yeah that’s a travesty. Was just talking baseball with Indians fans a few weeks back during the Phillies series and I was just enamored with that ball club. They hustle, they play the right way, they take advantage of mistakes. They should have championships but they don’t because the owner is a cheap fuck that doesn’t commit to guys long term. It’s the Knicks family right? Dolan?
 

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Yeah that’s a travesty. Was just talking baseball with Indians fans a few weeks back during the Phillies series and I was just enamored with that ball club. They hustle, they play the right way, they take advantage of mistakes. They should have championships but they don’t because the owner is a cheap fuck that doesn’t commit to guys long term. It’s the Knicks family right? Dolan?
Yep....same family. And, yes, no will to win.

Not even saying need to spend NY or LA money as not realistic. But in a contending window he cannot spend like Milwaukee, MN or Detroit?

either of the other 2 owners in this town would kill it if they took over the Tribe. They'd both hang on to the exceptional FO and just let them do their jobs...writing the checks when asked with no cap issues to deal with.
 
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