Rams to make a run at KC ?

[deanpet21]

you cant say that for sure Shark.

 

[skinsdad62]

some of you guys need to stop with the overreactions

this is why you trade KC .

you hope to get a good pick for him (2nd or so )

you give Rg3 and mccoy the reigns for this season

if RG3 fails you have given him a hole year to fix his ills so you draft a qb and groom him to take over

you dont do it to "fix all of Rg3's ills "

and boy did we forget the flat failure KC had in a starters role last season ?

let me refresh you 0-3 52 % completion 4td 7 ints

that is on the record

but wait , the preseason doesnt mean anything , unless it serves your purpose, then the 3rd preseason game dress rehearsal is the end all be all

KC has shined this preseason . he looks farther ahead then Rg3 . i get it and i agree with it

what i dont agree with is quitting on the guy after a crappy half of meaningless football because the new flavor of the day has arrived

in the end you all could be right . RG3 isnt NFL qb materiel. the trade was foolish etc , but i think i will wait till this season plays out some more before i proclaim failure

you guys wanted to gut a draft to get a franchise guy . you advocated it for bradford and sanchez and we finally did it with Rg3 . that whole philosophy was stupid to begin with because for 3 years our o/line has been pedestrian

you build the LOS up first and then work on the skill guys . it isnt glamorous but it works

 

[deanpet21]

No one wants Rg3 to fail. But if he falters we can win with Cousins and our NEW weapons we have this year. How the hell can you bring up last year dad? that is crazy. Couisns has proven he is a NFL QB so why would you trade him when Rg3 has not proven to be a pocket passer?

 

[skinsdad62]

No one wants Rg3 to fail. But if he falters we can win with Cousins and our NEW weapons we have this year. How the hell can you bring up last year dad? that is crazy. Couisns has proven he is a NFL QB so why would you trade him when Rg3 has not proven to be a pocket passer?

dean , i bring up what is real . his regular season games are real , not the preseason games

and again are we building a flash in the pan type team or are we building a perennial contender ?

we have had 20 years of short cuts

 

[Sharkinva]

dean , i bring up what is real . his regular season games are real , not the preseason games

and again are we building a flash in the pan type team or are we building a perennial contender ?

we have had 20 years of short cuts

So basic Football Skills in the preseason have no bearing?? Is that what you are telling us?? Scores dont matter, wins and losses in the preseason dont matter. But being able to actually PLAY the position they are paying you for... I think that holds some importance.

 

[deanpet21]

It makes zero sense to trade Cousins right now. Even if its for a 2nd round pick. Not enough IMO. Rg3 is very shaky. I rather have Cousins to fall back to then McCoy. Stupid Browns could of had Cousins for a 3rd but they used that 3rd to get Manizel.

 

[Sportster 72]

some of you guys need to stop with the overreactions

this is why you trade KC .

you hope to get a good pick for him (2nd or so )

you give Rg3 and mccoy the reigns for this season

if RG3 fails you have given him a hole year to fix his ills so you draft a qb and groom him to take over

you dont do it to "fix all of Rg3's ills "

and boy did we forget the flat failure KC had in a starters role last season ?

let me refresh you 0-3 52 % completion 4td 7 ints

that is on the record

but wait , the preseason doesnt mean anything , unless it serves your purpose, then the 3rd preseason game dress rehearsal is the end all be all

KC has shined this preseason . he looks farther ahead then Rg3 . i get it and i agree with it

what i dont agree with is quitting on the guy after a crappy half of meaningless football because the new flavor of the day has arrived

in the end you all could be right . RG3 isnt NFL qb materiel. the trade was foolish etc , but i think i will wait till this season plays out some more before i proclaim failure

you guys wanted to gut a draft to get a franchise guy . you advocated it for bradford and sanchez and we finally did it with Rg3 . that whole philosophy was stupid to begin with because for 3 years our o/line has been pedestrian

you build the LOS up first and then work on the skill guys . it isnt glamorous but it works

Dad I have been waiting for your Cousins history lesson. you led the charge, jumped behind the wheel and drive the bus over Cousins for his three games last year. You have backed the bus up and run him over many times since. So my question to you is ... Why all the hugs, kisses and forgiveness for Griffin. Mind you I am not advocating a change and I know Gruden wasn't hired to coach Cousins. I am just wondering why anyone who doesn't agree with you needs to change the way they are thinking?

 

[skinsdad62]

So basic Football Skills in the preseason have no bearing?? Is that what you are telling us?? Scores dont matter, wins and losses in the preseason dont matter. But being able to actually PLAY the position they are paying you for... I think that holds some importance.

and one half of football vs the ravens erases any good ? he had a bad game so did luck last nite too

eli manning has struggled all pre season does he get benched before he knows the system ?

one game isnt the end all be all

as for KC if you can get a 2nd for him grab it .

 

[deanpet21]

Rg3 was embarrassing last night. Cmon Dad don't even defend that.

 

[skinsdad62]

Rg3 was embarrassing last night. Cmon Dad don't even defend that.

i am sorry , where exactly did i defend his performance last nite again ? i missed it

 

[deanpet21]

you are saying it was no big deal last night. it wasn't a bad game. it was awful. Luck wasn't that bad.

 

[Sharkinva]

and one half of football vs the ravens erases any good ? he had a bad game so did luck last nite too

eli manning has struggled all pre season does he get benched before he knows the system ?

one game isnt the end all be all

as for KC if you can get a 2nd for him grab it .

As for Bob, I have seen average at best this off season. Last night was just plain bad.

I could care less what the giants do with Eli. As far as the redskins goes, I have always said the 22 guys who give us the best chance to win each week should start.

As for KC, I say you take what ever some one is willing to offer because unless he goes down to a season ending injury, Bob is never going to spend enough time out of the lineup to make keeping Cousins worth while. So we die or live with Bob which means we might as well get something for cousins. They should have taken the 4th the Browns offered and been done with it.

 

[skinsdad62]

Dad I have been waiting for your Cousins history lesson. you led the charge, jumped behind the wheel and drive the bus over Cousins for his three games last year. You have backed the bus up and run him over many times since. So my question to you is ... Why all the hugs, kisses and forgiveness for Griffin. Mind you I am not advocating a change and I know Gruden wasn't hired to coach Cousins. I am just wondering why anyone who doesn't agree with you needs to change the way they are thinking?

i dont have any hugs and kisses for RG3 . he played awfully and i have said it repeatedly

and i am wondering why i have to change my thinking because others dont agree with me ?

you want to go round and round about that all day long ?

i brought up the facts , not the emotions . KC has been stupendous in every pre season game he has played . the regular season he has not . he has played very well at times and he has been pedestrian in others those games count

i am sorry if that fact "gets in the way "

this preseason RG3 has looked pedestrian .

the detractors have determined he will never get better , and are calling for his football head and yet KC is the new franchise qb who will lead us to our true destiny because he is a pre season championship qb

i do not dislike KC , i have talked to him a few times here at MSU . but in my mind you have to give Rg3 the season to see where it leads and if someone offers a good deal for KC we should consider it because we can start drafting qbs if Rg3 fails

now does everyone agree with that ? no , but dont ask me to lay down like a bitch and not back up my stance because others disagree with me because they fight their points as hard as i fight mine and they dont get the (everyone needs to change their thinking because they dont agree with you mantra )

its called debating

 

[gkekoa]

You can't look at last season's starts to judge KC. The coaches were on the way out, the team was in turmoil, and the OL was atrocious.

 

[skinz2winz]

You can't look at last season's starts to judge KC. The coaches were on the way out, the team was in turmoil, and the OL was atrocious.

The offensive line is still atrocious!!!

 

[skinsdad62]

You can't look at last season's starts to judge KC. The coaches were on the way out, the team was in turmoil, and the OL was atrocious.

but the meaningless preseason games vs walmart baggers are a better judge ?

the o/line wasnt atrocious last nite ?

 

[Sportster 72]

dad, I was kind of stirring the pot. I'd rather have you on my side dad, you have Griffin and Orakpo's back.

Cousins has been better but we aren't talking Manning, Brady or Brees. He is also going against backups.

I am hoping once Gruden game plans for Griffin things will get better. As I said before Gruden came here to help Griffin, not Cousins. Lets wait and see what happens when the regular season starts. Right now I don't see anyone playing QB that I want to be there 10 years from now.

 

[SteelersPride]

I was listening to espn radio today...........and john clayton said there is zero chance the redskins trade kirk cousins.........that they need him for this season, and he may start at some point from what he hears......

take it how you want

also if this was said sorry.......didnt read the whole thread!

 

[Sharkinva]

dad, I was kind of stirring the pot. I'd rather have you on my side dad, you have Griffin and Orakpo's back.

Cousins has been better but we aren't talking Manning, Brady or Brees. He is also going against backups.

I am hoping once Gruden game plans for Griffin things will get better. As I said before Gruden came here to help Griffin, not Cousins. Lets wait and see what happens when the regular season starts. Right now I don't see anyone playing QB that I want to be there 10 years from now.

gruden came here to help the Redskins not one single player. If the main reason for him being here was one player, then hiring him was a mistake.

 

[RedskinzDan]

Trade RGIII for two 1st and a 2nd and call the previous trade a loan.