QB options for next year

[flyerhawk]

Winning 11 or 12 games with Geno is a pipe dream. Geno is a .500 QB. That's all he will ever be even in his greatest season that's all he is. Let's not forget this offense is loaded with skill position talent. Time to have that talent carry a young QB.

Don't waste any more time on a aging QB with no upside. Also no Geno isn't the most CLUTCH QB that's ridiculous. The offense would change to quick timing route.and up tempo play to get those late 4qrt wins and that style of play takes the QB's progression or lack there of out of the equation.

You are completely irrational when it comes to Geno so there is no point even trying to reason with you.

 

[flyerhawk]

Win enough games to stay mediocre and avoid being able to ever draft a legit qb prospect, start over at square one three years down the road when it doesn't pan out.

Or do a legit reboot and jettison the parts of the roster that need it and draft a QB no matter the cost

No team intentionally tanks in the NFL. Because it almost always means the coach and GM get fired. Fans always clamor for teams to do it but then demand a new coach when it happens.

 

[flyerhawk]

The best reason to keep Geno around might be you need to decide before you know if you can land a decent prospect at QB in the draft.

Well that's one reason. The other reason is you don't want to put massive pressure on a rookie QB learning how to play unless you have to.

It would be far far better to draft a QB and keep Geno and let the QB beat Geno in camp for the starting job.

 

[MrS]

No team intentionally tanks in the NFL. Because it almost always means the coach and GM get fired. Fans always clamor for teams to do it but then demand a new coach when it happens.

intentional how? losing games on purpose or dismantling a roster that doesnt work anymore?

 

[flyerhawk]

intentional how? losing games on purpose or dismantling a roster that doesnt work anymore?

Well either really.

Teams may shed players for draft picks but not because they plan on tanking.

It's way too hard to do. There are 55 players on the roster. A big change of a roster might be 10-15 players which 25% of the total roster. Trashing your roster to tank will just make your team worse with little chance of improving.

 

[MrS]

Well either really.

Teams may shed players for draft picks but not because they plan on tanking.

It's way too hard to do. There are 55 players on the roster. A big change of a roster might be 10-15 players which 25% of the total roster. Trashing your roster to tank will just make your team worse with little chance of improving.

It wouldn't be for the purposes of tanking, it would be to clear out dead weight and improve the roster down the road. Its not unusual for teams to do this, teams that fight it stagnate and suffer in the long run.

 

[flyerhawk]

It wouldn't be for the purposes of tanking, it would be to clear out dead weight and improve the roster down the road. Its not unusual for teams to do this, teams that fight it stagnate and suffer in the long run.

Well all teams try to get rid of dead weight and improve their roster.

Cutting Diggs, Adams, Dissly, and Mone frees up nearly 30 million in cap. So I think those are done deals. Lockett may get cut or renegotiated.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Team is too far trading up to the top 5 so wouldn't surprise me they trade back and try to 2nd rounder back. I can see the team going with lock for a year or 2 to draft talent and year 3 draft QBoF.

 

[MrS]

Well all teams try to get rid of dead weight and improve their roster.

Cutting Diggs, Adams, Dissly, and Mone frees up nearly 30 million in cap. So I think those are done deals. Lockett may get cut or renegotiated.

I think geno should be on that list

 

[flyerhawk]

I think geno should be on that list

Because you want the team to suck next year

 

[MrS]

Because you want the team to suck next year

There is going to be a change at qb at some point, better to do it sooner.

 

[flyerhawk]

There is going to be a change at qb at some point, better to do it sooner.

And if we draft a QB in the draft it makes a ton more sense to keep geno for one more year

 

[JMR]

There is going to be a change at qb at some point, better to do it sooner.

It's more important to do it right. If needs to be a combination of financial benefit plus more favorable alternative in hand. They aren't just going to do it because it's inevitable to happen some day.

 

[Carnzo]

Remember suck for Luck?

 

[flyerhawk]

It's more important to do it right. If needs to be a combination of financial benefit plus more favorable alternative in hand. They aren't just going to do it because it's inevitable to happen some day.

Exactly. I'm perfectly fine with moving from Geno as long as we have a plan. Praying that a rookie will come in and make an immediate impact is more wishful thinking than a sound plan.

Keeping Geno and drafting a QB makes a lot of sense to me. Cutting Geno and going with a rookie QB and Lock is an option but it is a lot riskier and doesn't save us all that much money.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Remember suck for Luck?

Worked out well till his early retirement

 

[Carnzo]

Worked out well till his early retirement

If he had a line in front of him he could still be playing.
What a waste of talent.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

If he had a line in front of him he could still be playing.
What a waste of talent.

Agreed and can't blame him for calling it quits.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

And for the record @flyerhawk Michigan won it's Natty over Washington fairly

 

[MrS]

Exactly. I'm perfectly fine with moving from Geno as long as we have a plan. Praying that a rookie will come in and make an immediate impact is more wishful thinking than a sound plan.

Keeping Geno and drafting a QB makes a lot of sense to me. Cutting Geno and going with a rookie QB and Lock is an option but it is a lot riskier and doesn't save us all that much money.

Round 1 Qbs are day one starters, no way in hell we pay geno $30m to be a backup.

What coach are we going to hire thats fine sticking with a 34 year old QB with two years left on his deal?

Dan quinn? Maybe, but that means running it back with a bloated unworkable roster destined to fail.

We need a hard reboot.