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JMR

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Outside of the Chargers game O'Connell is what he is, a backup with mediocre numbers and a high turnover rate. Whoever the Raiders select as new HC/GM, will take a top 3 QB in the draft if they get that chance.
Yeah, I am also not buying it that the Raiders will stand pat with O'Connell. Regime change usually means large investment in a QB soon after because lack of a good QB is often what leads to regime change.
 

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What would you be willing to give up to move from #14 in to the top 5? If our QB is there and we end up with the #14...
I'm not even sure how I grade the QBs yet and hard to judge where QBs will fall round one this early. Could be they can land their QB by moving into the top ten rather then top 5. Seahawks don't have the draft capitol they had last draft which makes decisions to move up harder IMO.
 

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I'm not even sure how I grade the QBs yet and hard to judge where QBs will fall round one this early. Could be they can land their QB by moving into the top ten rather then top 5. Seahawks don't have the draft capitol they had last draft which makes decisions to move up harder IMO.
Yeah, the only one I would be happy about is C Williams... Not really sold on Maye...
 

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Yeah, I am also not buying it that the Raiders will stand pat with O'Connell. Regime change usually means large investment in a QB soon after because lack of a good QB is often what leads to regime change.
Correct. I will say Chargers would be the best landing spot this year with Herbert and his offensive weapons. A good HC hire with a competent OC/DC that team could make a fast turn around.
 

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Yeah, the only one I would be happy about is C Williams... Not really sold on Maye...
My issue with C Will is his fumbling issues. He's a solid QB but with faster linemen and different blitz packages thrown at him, my concern is happy feet, panic and than losing the ball.
 

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I'm not even sure how I grade the QBs yet and hard to judge where QBs will fall round one this early. Could be they can land their QB by moving into the top ten rather then top 5. Seahawks don't have the draft capitol they had last draft which makes decisions to move up harder IMO.
Lose out they may not need to move up into the top 10.
 

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My issue with C Will is his fumbling issues. He's a solid QB but with faster linemen and different blitz packages thrown at him, my concern is happy feet, panic and than losing the ball.
He plays like Josh Allen... But there is no way I'd want to give up all that draft comp to move up to grab a QB... I expect us to be drafting in the 14-18 range at the draft so I can't see us moving up... I could only see us "maybe" considering it if we had a brand new coaching staff...
 

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Lose out they may not need to move up into the top 10.
Lose out?? C'mon man, the chances of doing that with the final 3 games against Titans, Steelers, and Cardinals are probably less than the chances of winning all 4. As much grief as our own fans are giving this team, it hasn't lost to any bad teams this year. The Rams at 7-7 have the worst current record of the 5 teams that have beaten us.
 

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He plays like Josh Allen... But there is no way I'd want to give up all that draft comp to move up to grab a QB... I expect us to be drafting in the 14-18 range at the draft so I can't see us moving up... I could only see us "maybe" considering it if we had a brand new coaching staff...
I agree I wouldn't throw away 2 more firsts for C Will. 14-18 range is the target but wouldn't be surprised if Seattle landed in the 8-12 range.
 

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Lose out?? C'mon man, the chances of doing that with the final 3 games against Titans, Steelers, and Cardinals are probably less than the chances of winning all 4. As much grief as our own fans are giving this team, it hasn't lost to any bad teams this year. The Rams at 7-7 have the worst current record of the 5 teams that have beaten us.
All 3 of those games are slop. Sure Seattle should beat them but with our horrible play calling it's also likely they could lose which I'm fine with.
 

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He plays like Josh Allen... But there is no way I'd want to give up all that draft comp to move up to grab a QB... I expect us to be drafting in the 14-18 range at the draft so I can't see us moving up... I could only see us "maybe" considering it if we had a brand new coaching staff...
Moving into top 3 is just to expensive from where their draft position will be this year. Top 5 likely also to expensive. Top 10 would be spendy but MAYBE doable but is a QB worth paying the toll still available? IDK. Drafting a QB in later rounds doesn't give me much hope. Catch 22 I guess, last draft the Seahawks were in a much better situation to wheel and deal Top 5 pick, had multiple first and second round picks in the 2023 draft, all their 2024 picks.
 
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All 3 of those games are slop. Sure Seattle should beat them but with our horrible play calling it's also likely they could lose which I'm fine with.
Well of course losing any of those games is possible. It's the NFL, and bad teams win games almost every week. And for sure, our final 3 opponents are all bad teams (Steelers are 7-7, but their QB is now Mitch Trubisky). Doesn't mean winning them is a lock. But the chance of losing ALL of them is massively remote.
 

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Well of course losing any of those games is possible. It's the NFL, and bad teams win games almost every week. And for sure, our final 3 opponents are all bad teams (Steelers are 7-7, but their QB is now Mitch Trubisky). Doesn't mean winning them is a lock. But the chance of losing ALL of them is massively remote.
Seattle is also a mediocre team. Yes chances are remote to lose out but we need to lose out.
 

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Most likely we have to wait until 2025 to draft our qbotf

We will close out the season 4-0 make the playoffs and lose in a blowout, and everyone will feel great about it and nothing will change.
 

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If they decide to trade him, they won't even get one 1st. If they would get a 1st or more, they wouldn't be trading him, now.
There's always 1 desperate team just on the outside of the playoffs that think they can reimage him. Vikings come to mind.
He's still young and mobile and with better coaching he still has a chance to get better.
 

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Probably not worth the time it took, but I went through the ESPN playoff machine (a cool tool you should check out) and here's the draft order I came up with by predicting outcomes of all remaining games (I didn't take the time to break ties):
  1. Panthers (Bears own the pick) 2-15 [L vs GB, L @ Jax, L vs TB]
  2. Patriots 3-14 [L @ Den, L @ Buf, L vs NYJ]
  3. Cardinals 3-14 [L @ Chi, L @ Phi, L vs Sea]
  4. Giants 5-12 [L @ Phi, L vs LAR, L vs Phi]
  5. Chargers 5-12 [L vs Buf, L @ Den, L vs KC]
  6. Commanders 5-12 [W @ NYJ, L vs SF, L vs Dal]
  7. Jets 6-11 [L vs WAS, L @ Cle, W @ NE]
  8. Titans 6-11 [L vs Sea, L @ Hou, W vs Jax]
  9. Falcons 6-11 [L vs Ind, W vs LV, L @ NO]
  10. Raiders 6-11 [L @ KC, L @ Ind, L vs Den]
  11. Bears 7-10 [W vs AZ, W vs Atl, L @ GB]
  12. Steelers 7-10 [L vs Cin, L @ Sea, L @ Bal]
  13. Vikings 8-9 [L vs Det, W vs GB, L @ Det]
  14. Packers 8-9 [W @ Car, L @ Min, W vs Chi]
  15. Saints 8-9 [L @ LAR, L @ TB, W vs Atl]
  16. Jaguars 9-8 [L @ TB, W vs Car, L @ Ten]
  17. Bills 10-7 [W @ LAC, W vs NE, L @ Mia]
  18. Bengals 10-7 [W @ Pit, L @ KC, W vs Cle]
  19. (14 Playoff teams)
Even with a loss plugged in vs Eagles, a 9-8 record gets us the 7th seed based on my own predictions of other games. The Packers probably have the best chance to bump us out if they win @ Minn week 17 and we don't have 10 wins. In that case, we end up drafting at ~15. Even losing all 4 remaining games, the best pick would likely be the 7 spot depending on tie breakers and maybe some upsets, but then again 6-11 might only get us to 10 or 11.

If it goes like this, it would be wild for TWO 10-win teams not to make the playoffs in the AFC. I have Indy ending up at 11-7 which seems bizarre; I have them winning out @ Atl, vs LV, and vs Hou. Probably will end up losing 1 of those.

I am sure it won't end up exactly like this, but it was fun to work through it to see how things might shake out. There sure are a lot of teams at the top of the projected order that have spent recent top picks on QBs.
 

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The Seahawks have several potential 2024 cap casualties who would need to be healthy for them to release. It's possible the Seahawks will sit those players to prevent injuries. The Seahawks losing out with a healthy roster looks unlikely, but if they pull players all bets are off.
 
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