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first time talking to the philly media since 2011.. he had a big interview with TSN i think that's going to air tonight as well if i'm not mistaken

supposedly he's in really bad shape.. sucks.. i hate pronger the hockey player, but i really hope he can get healthy again and can live out his life






brings up an interesting cap/buyout question though.. in the new CBA you're not allowed to buy out an injured player, but what if pronger retires, can the flyers amnesty buy out the rest of his 35+ contract then? he's got a 4.9 mil cap hit until the summer of 2018 (horrible contract homer, you idiot).
 

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first time talking to the philly media since 2011.. he had a big interview with TSN i think that's going to air tonight as well if i'm not mistaken

supposedly he's in really bad shape.. sucks.. i hate pronger the hockey player, but i really hope he can get healthy again and can live out his life






brings up an interesting cap/buyout question though.. in the new CBA you're not allowed to buy out an injured player, but what if pronger retires, can the flyers amnesty buy out the rest of his 35+ contract then? he's got a 4.9 mil cap hit until the summer of 2018 (horrible contract homer, you idiot).

it was with Dan Murphy from sportsnet ... part 1 was supposed to air last night .. not sure if it did :noidea:

Speaking with Sportsnet’s Dan Murphy in a two-part series to be aired on Sportsnet Wednesday and Thursday, the first thing you notice is the absence of Pronger’s trademark swagger. It is a time of weakness, a side of Pronger we have never been privy to — like Samson after the haircut. A guy who never gave an inch is now about 30 yards behind the battle, and unsure — that’s right, Pronger is not at all confident here — if he will catch up.

“What’s happened was I had 30-year-old eyes. I got hit and the doctor told me I had 60-year-old eyes,” the former Hartford Whaler, St. Louis Blue, Edmonton Oiler, Anaheim Duck and Philadelphia Flyer tells Murphy. “I don’t have very good peripheral vision. That so-called sixth sense? I used to really have a good one. Now, I couldn’t feel anybody comin’ around a corner. My kids scare me all the time.

“That used to be what I was known for: knowing where everybody was; having a feel for who was around me. Now I don’t have that.”
 

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A snippet was aired during the 2nd intermission of the Sharks - Flames game last night.
 

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ahh .. video is on sportsnet.ca
 

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i hate pronger the hockey player, but i really hope he can get healthy again and can live out his life


I think a lot of people feel this way, me included.

Best of luck.
 

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first time talking to the philly media since 2011.. he had a big interview with TSN i think that's going to air tonight as well if i'm not mistaken

supposedly he's in really bad shape.. sucks.. i hate pronger the hockey player, but i really hope he can get healthy again and can live out his life






brings up an interesting cap/buyout question though.. in the new CBA you're not allowed to buy out an injured player, but what if pronger retires, can the flyers amnesty buy out the rest of his 35+ contract then? he's got a 4.9 mil cap hit until the summer of 2018 (horrible contract homer, you idiot).

been trying to get an answer from TSN hockey panelists-too many online at moment.Really curious as to the ruling.
 

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As I watched the vid last night, I saw a few jerseys (Blues, Ducks, and Flyers) on the wall, but I didn't see an Oilers jersey (lol)
 

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been trying to get an answer from TSN hockey panelists-too many online at moment.Really curious as to the ruling.

You know, the buyout thing is kinda silly when you put it up against a 35+ contract. I like the buyouts, but man that's a big break on what was a stupid deal (Pronger was important, no duh, but the contract is horrible). I imagine he wouldn't retire if it wasn't going to help the Flyers though. If they can't buy him out, then retirement would equate to not being able to go on IR, and being on the books for awhile, right?
 

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You know, the buyout thing is kinda silly when you put it up against a 35+ contract. I like the buyouts, but man that's a big break on what was a stupid deal (Pronger was important, no duh, but the contract is horrible). I imagine he wouldn't retire if it wasn't going to help the Flyers though. If they can't buy him out, then retirement would equate to not being able to go on IR, and being on the books for awhile, right?

yep.. if he retires the flyers have a 4.9 mil cap hit until 2018 that they can't do anything about (pending the amnesty buyout of a retired contract question)

noobdy is arguing that it's a stupid contract, but in fairness to pronger and his recovery, i dont think he should have to be worried about 'proving' that he's trying to come back.. he should be able to retire in peace without feeling guilty
 

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wont they just LTIR him?

edit: capgeek showing they already have ... when did that happen???
 

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yep.. if he retires the flyers have a 4.9 mil cap hit until 2018 that they can't do anything about (pending the amnesty buyout of a retired contract question)

noobdy is arguing that it's a stupid contract, but in fairness to pronger and his recovery, i dont think he should have to be worried about 'proving' that he's trying to come back.. he should be able to retire in peace without feeling guilty

Does one have to "prove" they're coming back to stay on LTIR? If so that certainly changes things and I'd understand his retirement. I mean, I understand it regardless, I'm just sure he hopes to do what's right by the Flyers as well.
 

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wont they just LTIR him?

edit: capgeek showing they already have ... when did that happen???

i dont think there's been an official announcement of that yet.. but it was expected that he would go on LTIR at some point after the gagne acquisition

but if he's retired they can't LTIR him

Does one have to "prove" they're coming back to stay on LTIR? If so that certainly changes things and I'd understand his retirement. I mean, I understand it regardless, I'm just sure he hopes to do what's right by the Flyers as well.

i'm pretty sure you have to prove you're unfit to play to go on LTIR.. which in long cases like this, would be a failed physical.. i could be mistaken though?

so you dont have to prove you are coming back, but i think the wording in the former CBA was something like 'show you're actively taking steps towards recovery'
 

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i dont think there's been an official announcement of that yet.. but it was expected that he would go on LTIR at some point after the gagne acquisition

but if he's retired they can't LTIR him



i'm pretty sure you have to prove you're unfit to play to go on LTIR.. which in long cases like this, would be a failed physical.. i could be mistaken though?

so you dont have to prove you are coming back, but i think the wording in the former CBA was something like 'show you're actively taking steps towards recovery'

So...it's like unemployment. Hah. In that case I could see him just wanting to retire. That said, getting paid a lot of money to go take a physical occasionally isn't bad. And with concussions "actively taking steps toward recovery" is basically retirement.
 

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So...it's like unemployment. Hah. In that case I could see him just wanting to retire. That said, getting paid a lot of money to go take a physical occasionally isn't bad. And with concussions "actively taking steps toward recovery" is basically retirement.

lol, maybe that's his logic since he's apparently not retiring?
 

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lol, maybe that's his logic since he's apparently not retiring?

Wait...he's not? Was the presser just some random thing to update the media on his condition? Not sure an entire press conference was needed Chris.
 

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Wait...he's not? Was the presser just some random thing to update the media on his condition? Not sure an entire press conference was needed Chris.

ya.. i'm not sure it was either.. though, a couple of the writers bitched him out for not talking with the media when he was helping with the quick training camp in january.. the philly media really is atrocious
 

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ya.. i'm not sure it was either.. though, a couple of the writers bitched him out for not talking with the media when he was helping with the quick training camp in january.. the philly media really is atrocious

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Sometimes I wish everyone got to experience a concussion so they could fully understand how much they suck. I mean, I suppose we could just hit 'em all. But really post-concussion syndrome is like having a terrible migraine, vertigo, dementia, and bipolar disorder all at once for some of these guys. BUT YEAH, I'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
 

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.............

Sometimes I wish everyone got to experience a concussion so they could fully understand how much they suck. I mean, I suppose we could just hit 'em all. But really post-concussion syndrome is like having a terrible migraine, vertigo, dementia, and bipolar disorder all at once for some of these guys. BUT YEAH, I'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

Never had one diagnosed, but pretty certain I had a concussion years ago. Went skiing, went off a jump, hit a patch of ice and hit my head hard. Blacked out for about 20 seconds and was nauseous and light headed for about a week after that. Absolutely miserable.
 

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first time talking to the philly media since 2011.. he had a big interview with TSN i think that's going to air tonight as well if i'm not mistaken

supposedly he's in really bad shape.. sucks.. i hate pronger the hockey player, but i really hope he can get healthy again and can live out his life






brings up an interesting cap/buyout question though.. in the new CBA you're not allowed to buy out an injured player, but what if pronger retires, can the flyers amnesty buy out the rest of his 35+ contract then? he's got a 4.9 mil cap hit until the summer of 2018 (horrible contract homer, you idiot).

Not sure how you can hate him. lol We went to the Cup because of him!
 
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