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Pretty funny how people actually think Andrew Luck has been better than RW.

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How does Wilson even find himself in these discussions. I like Wilson, but Luck is elite. Wilson is a good QB. There is no comparison...
 

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A number two WR, who had to fill the # 1 spot on the Seahawks. Decent, but hardly top flight.

With a very few, as in rare exceptions (Jerry Rice, Randy Moss to name two) great QB's make receivers good or great, not the other way around.
 

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Have to say. Seahawk fans always get blamed for being the ones that put Wilson in these conversations , but this wasn't started by them. They were dragged into the topic. I'm sure they are tired of discussing it too.
 

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With a very few, as in rare exceptions (Jerry Rice, Randy Moss to name two) great QB's make receivers good or great, not the other way around.
Wilson has done just fine. Consider that Baldwin and Kearse, who start for the Seahawks weren't even drafted. You can only raise the play of the receiver so much.
 

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luck has ty the only one really worth talking about . reggie it has been sad to watch him the last 2 years . luck stands his grond and gets drilled may not be sacks but are hits .what i have seen the times i watched wilson he holds on to the ball and takes to many sacks . the seahawks you have to respect the run . the colts running game has been piss poor for the last 2 years .
 

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Wilson has done just fine. Consider that Baldwin and Kearse, who start for the Seahawks weren't even drafted. You can only raise the play of the receiver so much.

I never said he hasn't done just fine.
 

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How does Wilson even find himself in these discussions. I like Wilson, but Luck is elite. Wilson is a good QB. There is no comparison...

Almost makes you wonder how Russell Wilson has such a higher passer rating than Luck in the regular season AND the play offs.

Almost makes you wonder. At least, it should make you wonder, but I see you stick with non objectivity and fallacies to back your arrogant claims.
 

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With Andrew Luck at QB, the Seahawks would've made 3 straight Super Bowls. Luck doesn't need a Lynch, he just needs a solid running back and an above average defense.
 

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With Andrew Luck at QB, the Seahawks would've made 3 straight Super Bowls. Luck doesn't need a Lynch, he just needs a solid running back and an above average defense.

If Chris Clemons doesn't get hurt in Washington the Seahawks make it to three straight SBs. Or, who the fuck knows? But Wilson was not to blame for the Seahawks not advancing in 13. And Wilson doesn't need Lynch either. He has him, and utilizes him, but he would still be the same player without him. The offense wouldn't be the same, RW would be.
 

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With Andrew Luck at QB, the Seahawks would've made 3 straight Super Bowls. Luck doesn't need a Lynch, he just needs a solid running back and an above average defense.


lol
 

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I don't think that's right. After all, this same topic has yielded 1,000s of posts in numerous threads over the past few years. The topic has kind of become a newer, but similar to, Manning v. Brady debate.

There are points to be made on both sides. Certainly can't argue that Indy has been as successful with Luck as Seattle has with Wilson. In my mind, however, Wilson has clearly played in the more favorable situation.

Both good players who figure to be among the top QBs for years to come. Accordingly, which is the better of the two is likely to be debated ad nauseam.

I hope it ends up the same way too, Luck with great statistics and Wilson with 4 championships.
 

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so i make one post? and your calling irony........geeze your thick
 

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With Andrew Luck at QB, the Seahawks would've made 3 straight Super Bowls. Luck doesn't need a Lynch, he just needs a solid running back and an above average defense.

That, my friends, is an opinion. It is conjecture.

Anyone going to even try to address the reasons why Andrew Luck has been sacked at such a lower rate than RW?

Not even going to attempt it?

Well, poor Luck is soooooo unfortunate to be around such shit talent. Poor Luck. Just a one man show. Of course, as I have mentioned and I will reiterate it again. Luck's OL has been better and his WRs have been better. True.

Let me state the facts again. (Since it is not being addressed, it tells me all I need to know)

RW has been sacked 19 more times in his career and has 600 less pass attempts. Explain.
 

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Well one thing seems clear. We get to see what Wilson can do with a top flight weapon to throw to.
 

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Luck throws it more, not better. And he's had better personnel to throw it to than Wilson.
I hope it ends up the same way too, Luck with great statistics and Wilson with 4 championships.
And many of the things said about Wilson so far are the same things that were said about Brady at this point in his career. Not saying they're similar players, just pointing out irony.
 

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Well one thing seems clear. We get to see what Wilson can do with a top flight weapon to throw to.

Graham should certainly help. Chris Mathews also looked promising in the SB.
 

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A great head on his shoulders. I dont think I've ever seen the guy take a big hit and when you run for 800 yards that's sayign something. I too prefer Vick but I'm a HUGE supporter of Wilson. Love the kid

I meant to say "prefer Luck".
 

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Luck knows how to read a defense and isn't asked to run around the school yard. Rusty had Harvin and some other top flight WR 2 years ago and while his defense did get him a Lombardi, the offense was meh.

Wasn't Harvin pretty much out the entire year and then came back for the playoffs?
 

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Wasn't Harvin pretty much out the entire year and then came back for the playoffs?

Could be. I don't follow the Seahawks closely......kinda like their own fans up until 3 years ago :pound:
 
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