POLL} The Best Overall Hitter In The Past 30 Years ?......

[calsnowskier]

Barry Bonds. To claim otherwise is just starting a collection plate for falling tears. Especially when you include woManny Ramirez and David Ortiz.

And he never once broke an MLB rule.

I HATE that stupid "Potato Salad" thing, but this poll deserves it.

 

[calsnowskier]

Aaron used speed once, he didn't like it and never tried it again.

I HOPE you meant this post to be in jest.

Please tell me you meant it in jest.

 

[black francis]

Bonds or Trout

 

[black francis]

Wrong, you punish those who are caught, we don't excuse bank robbery just because some get away or accuse people without cause.

What punishment did Ortiz get?

 

[Wazmankg]

If I can't go Bonds, Miggy.

 

[BrockForBroglio]

I say #5 for STL and Angels....Pujols had one of the most impressive 12 years runs I have seen in a long time. And we have Bobby Bonilla to thank for Pujols' arrival in 2001.

 

[rmilia1]

The answer is Barry Bonds.

And it's not close

 

[BallsOfFurry]

I say #5 for STL and Angels....Pujols had one of the most impressive 12 years runs I have seen in a long time. And we have Bobby Bonilla to thank for Pujols' arrival in 2001.

If Cabrera keeps hitting at a very high level for a few more years I think he'll surpass Pujois, but that's a big if.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

If I can't go Bonds, Miggy.

If you want Bonds, take him. He's not somebody I consider for reasons we've discussed, but it's your choice.

 

[soxfan1468927]

I agree, OPS is the best measure of overall hitting in my opinion.

And yet you think Aaron was better than Mays

 

[soxfan1468927]

It's Bonds.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

With at least 10 years in the league .
I didn't list Bonds or other proven cheaters, you're welcome to post whoever you please though.

You forgot to exclude Manny Ramirez

 

[BallsOfFurry]

And yet you think Aaron was better than Mays

That is easy to explain.
First off neither player is near the top in career OPS, that's because both played the entire decade of the second dead ball era of the 60s, I don't think any player who did so is near the top in OPS. Mays has a .941 OPS and Aaron's is .929. The difference is because Mays played 2 more seasons in the tee it up 50s and Aaron played 3 more years in the early/mid70s which was an extension of the dead ball 60s.
If they had played in the 40s and 50s I expect both would be near the top.

I checked, no player from the 1960s has a higher OPS than either Mays or Aaron, smoke on that.

 

[soxfan1468927]

That is easy to explain.
First off neither player is near the top in career OPS, that's because both played the entire decade of the second dead ball era of the 60s, I don't think any player who did so is near the top in OPS. Mays has a .941 OPS and Aaron's is .929. The difference is because Mays played 2 more seasons in the tee it up 50s and Aaron played 3 more years in the early/mid70s which was an extension of the dead ball 60s.
If they had played in the 40s and 50s I expect both would be near the top.

I checked, no player from the 1960s has a higher OPS than either Mays or Aaron, smoke on that.

Talk about some crap argument.

1. Mays played 2 more seasons in the tee it up 50s? 155 more games when he was 20/21. Counting 1952 as 1 season when he played 34 games is just stupid. Take out those 2 seasons and his OPS his higher, not lower.

2. Take out Aaron's extra seasons at the end of his career played in the "extension of the dead ball era" and take out Mays extra 155 games in the "tee it up 50s" and his OPS is still lower than Mays.

3. What does a comparison between the two players have to do with all-time OPS?

4. Would you like a RFer or CFer with equal offensive numbers?

5. Also this ignores the 100 extra bases Mays had stealing bags compared to Aaron stealing bags. If you add those in to the slugging percentage and OBP, while taking out the caught stealing of both players, the OPS difference is larger. Goes up to .954 for Mays and .937 for Aaron.

 

[ElTexan]

Career ops and ops+
1.051 182 Bonds
.996 154 Ramirez
.958 154 Cabrera
.959 155 Pujols
.931 141 Ortiz
.907 136 Griffey Jr.
.847 132 Gwynn

 

[Center Ice]

Me in my beer league, but humility prevents me from bragging!

 

[Edonidd]

Even before steriods blew him up completely, Bonds was a 30-30 guy. I think he even went 40-40 before he became the monster that looked like he was holding a toothpick in his last couple years.

Griffey is beyond doubt for me. Doesnt matter for the poll, but people were asking. With his swing he couod have weighed 137 pounds and still launched 40+ HR's a year. And he was injured and out long enough each time that maybe he should have been taking something for recovery.

Overall hitter means for average and for power. A good way to measure that might be something like the Triple Crown. Which i believe only Miggy has won in the past 30 years.

 

[calsnowskier]

Even before steriods blew him up completely, Bonds was a 30-30 guy. I think he even went 40-40 before he became the monster that looked like he was holding a toothpick in his last couple years.

Griffey is beyond doubt for me. Doesnt matter for the poll, but people were asking. With his swing he couod have weighed 137 pounds and still launched 40+ HR's a year. And he was injured and out long enough each time that maybe he should have been taking something for recovery.

Overall hitter means for average and for power. A good way to measure that might be something like the Triple Crown. Which i believe only Miggy has won in the past 30 years.

A vote for Miggy is fair, but use the Triple Crown? RBIs is a near worthless stat and BA has been replaced by OBP or OPS. Stay with this century, son...

 

[redseat]

KGJ imo. Loved his swing

 

[ChiSoxFan]

I'm going with the biased Frank Thomas vote.