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Unbelievable
 

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The sty supposed response to the debunked southern strategy being debunked
 

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Tyranny is what this is
 

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More debunking
 

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Smoke and mirrors .. he’s including sales taxes, gas taxes etc. in his numbers - which can’t be accurately determined and are designated for other purposes anyway. Anyone earning minimum wage is paying minimal income taxes, if any. He’s misrepresenting the truth.
 

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HE didn't just "say" he was attacked, he was attacked and there is video evidence of it.
It looks like the “unbiased fact-checking site” has revealed their hand.

Some leftist think this is a legit fact check site
 

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Some more tolerance of the left courtesy of antifa
 

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Here is what I don't understand. Where are our friends on the left denouncing these actions by antifa? When we saw white supremacist groups enact violence, virtually all of us that are right leaning denounced the actions. The guy in Charlottesville deserves as much prison time as they can give him. But when there is violence emanating from the left, all we get is crickets.
 

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All paid for by George Soros owns and pays.alot of left wing groups.i bet anifa or whatever gets pay checks
 

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Here is what I don't understand. Where are our friends on the left denouncing these actions by antifa? When we saw white supremacist groups enact violence, virtually all of us that are right leaning denounced the actions. The guy in Charlottesville deserves as much prison time as they can give him. But when there is violence emanating from the left, all we get is crickets.


Lets be real. Some of our right leaning posters denounce white nationals, but with qualifiers. Such as, well there arent many of them in any case. I cant speak for anyone else, but I denounce any type of terrorist act, of which these are. But Im also not going to minimize the impact, or the number of people actually in Antifa.
 

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Lets be real. Some of our right leaning posters denounce white nationals, but with qualifiers. Such as, well there arent many of them in any case. I cant speak for anyone else, but I denounce any type of terrorist act, of which these are. But Im also not going to minimize the impact, or the number of people actually in Antifa.

And you shouldn't. Violence is violence. Both sides need to take care of their internal shit before they start casting stones. But you are the first to denounce this violence by antifa. And I'm not so sure you are "left leaning".

Antifa, white nationals, and any other fringe organizations can protests all they want. They have that right. Honestly, I prefer that they do, for two reasons. First, I want to know who they are. Second, I want the rest of the country to hear their message, just so everyone knows how stupid they are.

But as soon as violence occurs, we need to all condemn it loud and clear and prosecute those perpetrating that violence to the full extent of the law. For we all know, violence leads to more violence. And if that happens, antifa is going to need more than crowbars, fists, and milkshakes. I don't see it turning out well for antifa. Nor the GOP because that ass whooping will ultimately come back on the right.
 

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Lets be real. Some of our right leaning posters denounce white nationals, but with qualifiers. Such as, well there arent many of them in any case. I cant speak for anyone else, but I denounce any type of terrorist act, of which these are. But Im also not going to minimize the impact, or the number of people actually in Antifa.

Minimizing the numbers doesn’t minimize the actions. There are very few ANTIFA participants but their actions should be condemned. Here is another thing people hate but it doesn’t minimize anything. Most are white and all are liberals.

By the way, treat both groups, if they are violent, equally. Make it the maximum punishment.

Please define what a white nationalist is. I happen to be white, and I believe American citizens should be put before all others in this country. I also believe the Constitution guarantees the rights of its own citizens where the Constitution has jurisdiction.
 

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Lets be real. Some of our right leaning posters denounce white nationals, but with qualifiers. Such as, well there arent many of them in any case. I cant speak for anyone else, but I denounce any type of terrorist act, of which these are. But Im also not going to minimize the impact, or the number of people actually in Antifa.

and here is the rub shark , you are conflating 2 different arguments .

you said that trump and conservatives are beholden to white supremacists . the answer to that was they have no numbers to be of significant value to ANY party to have ANY influence . you wanted to paint conservatives as white supremacists

so there is NO QUALIFIERS AT ALL



i also pointed out in charlottesville that ANTIFA was there , ARMED , and ready to commit violence which was brushed off by the left , its leaders , and people on this board

i also pointed out that ANTIFA and the FAR left , be it occupy wall street or others have roited since the election and committing violence on college campuses when conservatives speak to silence POV's they disagree with .

i have documented this throughout this thread

i also just recently showed that Trump was in fact right when he said there was good people on both sides protesting in charlottesville as there was people not wanting the statues taken down for historical reasons which the LSM was untruthful about as well

so stop conflating 2 different talking points
 

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And you shouldn't. Violence is violence. Both sides need to take care of their internal shit before they start casting stones. But you are the first to denounce this violence by antifa. And I'm not so sure you are "left leaning".

Antifa, white nationals, and any other fringe organizations can protests all they want. They have that right. Honestly, I prefer that they do, for two reasons. First, I want to know who they are. Second, I want the rest of the country to hear their message, just so everyone knows how stupid they are.

But as soon as violence occurs, we need to all condemn it loud and clear and prosecute those perpetrating that violence to the full extent of the law. For we all know, violence leads to more violence. And if that happens, antifa is going to need more than crowbars, fists, and milkshakes. I don't see it turning out well for antifa. Nor the GOP because that ass whooping will ultimately come back on the right.

exactly what are we talking about when we say white nationals ? see i think this is a left wing term used to suppress white peoples opinions . if i am white , and i want ALL peoples rights protected to include my race and the constitution followed , this means i am a bigot ? because the vast majority of whites want just what i said no matter what side of the isle they sit

now this isnt a bash at you i am just wanting to know exactly what we are talking about because i feel people think white nationalists and white supremacist are interchangeable and if so ok but what does that mean for people i mentioned above ?
 

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If these guys wore maga hats it would be on 24 /7 in the LSM. , scant coverage so far
 

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On Khashoggi, two things can be true at once:


1. What happened to him in Istanbul was atrocious. No one deserves to die for his beliefs, however wrong.


2. He was a Qatari state asset, a longtime radical anti-Semite, and a supporter of Hamas and other hardline Islamist causes.

3 . Making this guy a saint is a stretch
 

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See liberals believe me , the taxpayer , should be paying for poor choices of others the were free to make without any accountability of the individual making said choice
 

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We saw this during the debates
 
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