politics thread

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

Just thought I’d throw this out there

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

Report: Slavery reparations proposals could cost US more than $17 trillion

For the anti breitbart ‘s

 

[skinsdad62]

If crossing the border illegally is no longer illegal - as several Ds advocate - why do we make people who get off airplanes go through customs? If it's fair to let people in without going through customs on the southern border, then everyone everywhere should be allowed in.

 

[skinsdad62]

Just sad

 

[skinsdad62]

Now who could have predicted that ?

 

[skinsdad62]

I am wondering , just how are we going to pay for free health care , college loans , the new green deal and reparations . The totals are about 32 trillion for HC another 93 trill for new green deal college ? Another 20 trillion ? And reparations are at. 9 -17 trillion . We haven’t even talked about entitlements. Or our defense . So either they are lying or they are stupid. You can. Tax every American 100% of their income and not even approach paying that. ! And add 22 trillion in debt

 

[j_y19]

I am wondering , just how are we going to pay for free health care , college loans , the new green deal and reparations . The totals are about 32 trillion for HC another 93 trill for new green deal college ? Another 20 trillion ? And reparations are at. 9 -17 trillion . We haven’t even talked about entitlements. Or our defense . So either they are lying or they are stupid. You can. Tax every American 100% of their income and not even approach paying that. ! And add 22 trillion in debt

Hey, I know! Lets just tax the rich! They have plenty of money, right? and when they all remove their money from US accounts and deposit it overseas where it can't be touched, can't we just print more money like AOC said? This strategy is working in California, if it weren't for those pesky rich people (and the middle class) leaving the state.

 

[reptec101]

Hey, im all for a real African American becoming president one day. I just don't see the two that are running,, Booker and Messum winning.... well three if your including Elizabeth Warren.

 

[reptec101]

If crossing the border illegally is no longer illegal - as several Ds advocate - why do we make people who get off airplanes go through customs? If it's fair to let people in without going through customs on the southern border, then everyone everywhere should be allowed in.

This is a really good point. Though I doubt any thing would pass allowing complete and utterly open-ness at the border. Remember, These immigrants are simply being used as pawns by the Dems to win the votes of those already here.... in a way the same way they use the African American population.

 

[reptec101]

Just sad

I heard it only took three snaps to capture the image just right too. In other words,,, she's getting better at the game.

 

[reptec101]

Hey, I know! Lets just tax the rich! They have plenty of money, right? and when they all remove their money from US accounts and deposit it overseas where it can't be touched, can't we just print more money like AOC said? This strategy is working in California, if it weren't for those pesky rich people (and the middle class) leaving the state.

When all else fails congress will step in and regulate funding and the treasury will spend as AOC said as well regarding the GND. I'm just giddy that there is a political figure on the Democratic side that has all the answers.... and she a patriot too I understand.

 

[skinsdad62]

Hey, I know! Lets just tax the rich! They have plenty of money, right? and when they all remove their money from US accounts and deposit it overseas where it can't be touched, can't we just print more money like AOC said? This strategy is working in California, if it weren't for those pesky rich people (and the middle class) leaving the state.

and lets go just a little further , they dont see the tyranny in this . the govt controls your health and a bureaucrat decides your health . and the foriegner could get life saving treatment while you get " made comfortable to die "

the govt controls how much power you use and how when and where you drive

you cant give away liberty to be secure because in the end you will have neither

in the end either you dont know what you are getting in socialism , you buy the lies , or you are a part of it and actually want to live in a statist country (cant imagine why ) ,or your trump hate overrides rational thought and you will lose freedom just to get rid of him

the truth is the cant really hope to keep one of their promises and when your taxes run 60/70% it will be too late

but dont worry that patriot AOC will still get her 174,000 plus , not pay taxes , life in a wonderful home , while the rest are in fema type trailers living hand to mouth riding our bikes

 

[gkekoa]

You posted fake news articles as facts, which they are not.

In my district three tenured teachers were fired this year, two the year before. In my neighboring school district, six were let go this year, two the year before.

You dont hear about the efficiency with which school districts replace ineffective personnel because it doesnt fit the idiotic narrative that “tenured teachers are hard to fire.”

That narrative, like so, so many offered by people who dont know better - mostly republicans - is categorically false.

Actually, they were factual situations and requirements to remove a teacher. I get it now. You don’t understand what facts are. Ignorance is your excuse.

I don’t believe you. Why were they let go and fired? You make claims but have no evidence. I make claims backed up with evidence.

You don’t hear about it because it is insanely difficult to do. Again...I supply evidence. You simply make claims.

 

[gkekoa]

Did I say you should read articles by teachers? No, i did not. As usual, you are wrong.

Your mom is a teacher. Sure she is. I bet she agrees with your sentiments exactly.

As usual, a dumbdumb on the right finds some fake news articles that happen to agree with their small minded opinions, and declare them as “facts.”

Post 11848, you asked if those articles were written by teachers. That means you think we should take teacher’s words for it.

Yep. She actually specializes in autistic children, or did in VA.

I am sure she doesn’t agree with my sentiments, as if that should matter. Her beliefs have no bearing on my own.

Actually, I simply googled it. Every article listed showed how hard it is to fire teachers.

 

[gkekoa]

Its hard to be this irrational. I really wonder how you get yourself into the frame of mind to even write something like this. It’s mind boggling.

Tell me, chachi, is Donald Trump a civil servant? He sure seems to be using his job to enrich himself. What about all the other asshole republican senators?

Doesnt donald trump exist to serve the will of the people? He certainly is spending a lot of time pandering to his moron base, which represents less than half of the nation he “leads.”

If all of the idiot republicans disappeared, America would probably replace them with people who could actually think rationally about complex problems, and consider more than one side. Too bad for us all: there will always be dumbass republicans, and there will always be students.

Actually, he is...Mr. Ed. Is he using his job to enrich himself? “In 2016, Forbes estimated Trump's net worth at $3.7 billion, and Bloomberg $3 billion. During the three years since Trump announced his presidential run in 2015, Forbes estimated his net worth declined 31% and his ranking fell 138 spots.”
WRONG AS ALWAYS

Almost all politicians are in it to enrich themselves...regardless of party. How many democratic politicians do you see saying there should be term limits? How many democratic politicians think they should get a pay raise?

Actually, Trump’s job is to execute the laws passed by Congress...it is not to do the will of the people. Again, please learn what the actual jobs of people are.

Without republicans, here are actual facts...slavery would not have ended when it did, women would not have been able to vote when they did, and the civil rights act would not have been enacted when it was. Those are actual facts.

If there were no republicans, there would be no military and we would be speaking German.

 

[gkekoa]

I found articles that support my position.

I guess I should call you clueless.

Drrrrrrr....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...esults-from-new-study/?utm_term=.82177f3aa459

https://www.google.com/amp/s/froste...ct-bad-teachers-not-so-says-a-new-report/amp/

As Vergara Case Ends, Study Shows Unions Don't Protect Bad Teachers

US: new study reveals that unions boost quality of education : Education International

Confronting the Myths About Tenure and Teachers’ Unions | Los Rios College Federation of Teachers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/584635002

4 Myths About Teacher Unions - Good or Bad

Article one...not a single instance but quite a few claims. Also mentions it gets rid of teachers prior to tenure...not easy to fire after tenure.

Article two...is based on the same research as article one.

Article three...”Liu and Cuéllar said there was strong evidence that the two-year period for tenure assessment, and the time and expense needed to fire tenured teachers, result in protections for weak instructors who inflict lasting harm on their students.” The only thing that supports your claim is a singular study from the same person in articles one and two. So far, you have one source.

Article four...also based on Han’s study, alone.

Article five...the first 3/4 of the article deals with a person’s personal experience and blames poverty for educational issues, which is a definite factor I agree. It glosses over dismissal of teachers and claims you have to have cause. Being a shitty teacher is not cause because it is not an objective standard. There is zero evidence provided in the article.


Article six...read the first paragraph. It says upfront that getting rid of teachers is hard. It concedes the fact that we are telling you about.

Article seven...it is about one teacher’s experience. She doesn’t refute the difficulty of firing bad teachers, instead she blames the difficulty on administrators. She is essentially admitting it is hard to fire a bad teacher.

Seriously, did you read any of the shit you sourced?

 

[skinsdad62]

The terrible photo DNC Media pushed for the past few days turned out to be not a "refugee" but an "economic migrant" who got himself and his daughter killed, before his wife's eyes, because he decided to bypass the legal U.S. immigration system after his mother warned him not to.

The man and his wife both had jobs and a home with his mother. They made very little money and understandably wanted a better life. There is no moral, ethical, or practical universe in which the people of the United States are required to provide it.

The man was from El Salvador, which has received over $4.4 billion in aid from the United States but still generated a tidal wave of economic migrants. It is not the fault of the American people that El Salvador cannot provide a better life for its citizens.

Accepting carefully vetted refugees fleeing dangerous persecution is very different, both in practical and ethical terms, than waving economic migrants across the border. Deliberately conflating the two is profoundly dishonest and immoral.

If Democrats think the American people ARE somehow responsible for the entire population of El Salvador, then the solution they should propose is to remove its failed government and pampered ruling class and give us the POWER commensurate with that RESPONSIBILITY.

There can be no responsibility without power. No one can ethically be held responsible for conditions they did not create and have no power to change - not individually and not as a nation. But Democrats think Americans should be penalized to help the ruling class of El Salvador.

Now decent reporting would have made this. Clear

 

[skinsdad62]

Continuing on

Democrats would give Americans no power to correct the terrible conditions in the countries from which economic migrants are flowing. We already tried sending them huge amounts of money - charity Americans were forced to pay for - and it didn't help.

The systems in those countries are broken, so pouring money into them changes nothing. Democrats think Americans should be forced to absorb the consequences of those failed systems in perpetuity. They even hold us responsible for people who die while trying to break our laws.

Democrats envision America as the relief system for failed, corrupt, crime-ridden governments around the world. They retain all the power and privileges; we absorb the costs and take in the people failed by those systems, forever.

For every single Democrat on those presidential debate stages this week, America is required to prop up failed governments and criminal gangs across the hemisphere and around the world. Dems are friends to corrupt foreign ruling classes, many of whom share their basic ideology.

What would happen if America put together comprehensive plans of action that would actually improve the lives of economic migrants like the man who got his little daughter killed while trying to violate the U.S. border? Not just money but detailed reforms?

Why, we would be arrogantly informed by the rulers of those countries that we have no right to tell the wise and noble Men of the People who run El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras how to manage their affairs! We are required to silently accept everyone who flees their rule.

Democrats would force American citizens to become accomplices to crime and corruption by supporting the dismal systems that generate economic migration. We are not allowed to vote on it - or much of anything else, once migrants dilute our votes and change our political system.

Nobody wants to invade Central America and "fix" it, of course, but neither should we allow ourselves to be invaded BY it. Our sovereignty is not subordinate to theirs. Our rights are not nullified by their needs. We are not responsible for people who ignore our laws.

Sovereignty is what this is really all about: the intersection of power and responsibility. Every single Democrat candidate for president just told you American sovereignty matters much less than the sovereignty of foreign nations. Ours must be sacrificed to preserve theirs.

This is the crap liberals want us to accept . This is why it’s an issue not race or culture as people would lead you to believe