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Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

In a key finding of the Mueller report, Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is tied to Russian intelligence.

But hundreds of pages of government documents - which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 - describe Kilimnik as a "sensitive" intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Why Mueller's team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from its report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller's Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller's overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. "The FBI assesses" Kilimnik "to have ties to Russian intelligence," Mueller's team wrote on Page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.

What it doesn't state is that Kilimnik was a "sensitive" intelligence source for State going back to at least 2013 while he was still working for Manafort, according to FBI and State Department memos I

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Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine's leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos

The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded.

Alan Purcell, the chief political officer at the Kiev embassy from 2014 to 2017, told FBI agents that State officials, including senior embassy officials Alexander Kasanof and Eric Schultz, deemed Kilimnik to be such a valuable asset that they kept his name out of cables for fear he would be compromised by leaks to WikiLeaks.

"Purcell described what he considered an unusual level of discretion that was taken with handling Kilimnik," states one FBI interview report that I reviewed. "Normally the head of the political section would not handle sources, but Kasanof informed Purcell that KILIMNIK was a sensitive source."

State officials told the FBI that although Kilimnik had Ukrainian and Russian residences, he did not appear to hold any allegiance to Moscow and was critical of Russia's invasion of the Crimean territory of Ukraine.

"Most sources of information in Ukraine were slanted in one direction or another," Kasanof told agents. "Kilimnik came across as less slanted than others."

"Kilimnik was flabbergasted at the Russian invasion of Crimea," the FBI added, summarizing Kasanof's interview with agents.

Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller's office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor's team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik's intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation.

Those emails raise further doubt about the Mueller report's portrayal of Kilimnik as a Russian agent. They show Kilimnik was allowed to visit the United States twice in 2016 to meet with State officials, a clear sign he wasn't flagged in visa databases as a foreign intelligence threat.

The emails also show how misleading, by omission, the Mueller report's public portrayal of Kilimnik turns out to be.

So we have Dowdy phone call transcript which I posted above and sty ‘s nonsensical reply
 

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Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

In a key finding of the Mueller report, Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is tied to Russian intelligence.

But hundreds of pages of government documents - which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 - describe Kilimnik as a "sensitive" intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Why Mueller's team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from its report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller's Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller's overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. "The FBI assesses" Kilimnik "to have ties to Russian intelligence," Mueller's team wrote on Page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.

What it doesn't state is that Kilimnik was a "sensitive" intelligence source for State going back to at least 2013 while he was still working for Manafort, according to FBI and State Department memos I

.
Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine's leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos

The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded.

Alan Purcell, the chief political officer at the Kiev embassy from 2014 to 2017, told FBI agents that State officials, including senior embassy officials Alexander Kasanof and Eric Schultz, deemed Kilimnik to be such a valuable asset that they kept his name out of cables for fear he would be compromised by leaks to WikiLeaks.

"Purcell described what he considered an unusual level of discretion that was taken with handling Kilimnik," states one FBI interview report that I reviewed. "Normally the head of the political section would not handle sources, but Kasanof informed Purcell that KILIMNIK was a sensitive source."

State officials told the FBI that although Kilimnik had Ukrainian and Russian residences, he did not appear to hold any allegiance to Moscow and was critical of Russia's invasion of the Crimean territory of Ukraine.

"Most sources of information in Ukraine were slanted in one direction or another," Kasanof told agents. "Kilimnik came across as less slanted than others."

"Kilimnik was flabbergasted at the Russian invasion of Crimea," the FBI added, summarizing Kasanof's interview with agents.

Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller's office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor's team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik's intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation.

Those emails raise further doubt about the Mueller report's portrayal of Kilimnik as a Russian agent. They show Kilimnik was allowed to visit the United States twice in 2016 to meet with State officials, a clear sign he wasn't flagged in visa databases as a foreign intelligence threat.

The emails also show how misleading, by omission, the Mueller report's public portrayal of Kilimnik turns out to be.

So we have Dowdy phone call transcript which I posted above and sty ‘s nonsensical reply
Now here is the kicker , this guy had ties to whose state dept again ? Can you say HRC ? Can anyone , name anyone in this case that the fbi , cia , muellar used that isnt ties to this woman and her campaign ?
 

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Breaking: Key Mueller Witness Against Trump Charged with Transporting Child Pornography

The 3rd major ding to the muellar report . This guy was mentioned about 100 times or so and plead guilty to child **** charges in 1991 . Now he is arrested again for same type of crap ! Now sell me he is credible


Actually dude, you need to tell me why on earth you think a man who has been a known associate of child rapists, **** stars, tax cheats, money launderers and is a habitual liar when it fits his purposes....

Should be considered an innocent bystander.
 

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This hurts legitimate cases much like smollets BS
 

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Actually dude, you need to tell me why on earth you think a man who has been a known associate of child rapists, **** stars, tax cheats, money launderers and is a habitual liar when it fits his purposes....

Should be considered an innocent bystander.
Nice deflection but again that doesn’t change the facts . Do we need to go to Weinstein land and his associates ?
 

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Nice deflection but again that doesn’t change the facts . Do we need to go to Weinstein land and his associates ?


I learned from the best. You are still chasing Hillary's emails as some kind of vindication as to why despite all Trumps BS he was the better choice and should remain President for another six years??
 

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I learned from the best. You are still chasing Hillary's emails as some kind of vindication as to why despite all Trumps BS he was the better choice and should remain President for another six years??
You have learned from the best allow your girl to get away with crimes because you simply hate Trump

But again I noticed not much comment on the other muellar omissions
 

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Trump-Russia Hysteria: Oh Look, Another Glaring Omission In The Mueller Report

Specifically, the Mueller report flagged Kilimnik’s delivery of a peace plan to the Trump campaign for settling the two-year-old Crimea conflict between Russia and Ukraine.

“Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel’s Office was a ‘backdoor’ way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine,” the Mueller report stated.

But State emails showed Kilimnik first delivered a version of his peace plan in May 2016 to the Obama administration during a visit to Washington. Kasanof, his former handler at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, had been promoted to a top policy position at State, and the two met for dinner on May 5, 2016.

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So Kilimnik’s delivery of the peace plan to the Trump campaign in August 2016 was flagged by Mueller as potentially nefarious, but its earlier delivery to the Obama administration wasn’t mentioned. That’s what many in the intelligence world might call “deception by omission.”
 

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You have learned from the best allow your girl to get away with crimes because you simply hate Trump

But again I noticed not much comment on the other muellar omissions


She wasnt my Girl dude. Remember, I voted for Trump because I didnt trust Hillary.

But that does not mean I have not realized Trump is trying to change this country in ways that DONT benefit and will likely harm me and mine.
 

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She wasnt my Girl dude. Remember, I voted for Trump because I didnt trust Hillary.

But that does not mean I have not realized Trump is trying to change this country in ways that DONT benefit and will likely harm me and mine.
Never the less supporting getting rid of him based on a hoax perpetrated by the DNC and your girl is wrong . Vote him out
 

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I learned from the best. You are still chasing Hillary's emails as some kind of vindication as to why despite all Trumps BS he was the better choice and should remain President for another six years??
People are still chasing the emails because people want equal justice. The truth of the matter is you know what she did was not only ignorant but a violation. You know that by erasing thousands of emails was intent in the act of obstruction. You know that what she did was a felony. What's really sad in all this is that you and your party are willing to overlook the breach in security because it's one of your own. Only a fool believes she did nothing wrong... and I don't believe you're a fool. When equal justice is applied to all is when this country regains its footing again. Keep laboring on Trump even when the FBI who tried to frame him has finally cleared the untouchable man. This is why republicans and Trump supporters all laugh and scoff at the democrats and all their rhetoric of selective outrage. If you all can't take yourself serious than how can we.
 

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Never the less supporting getting rid of him based on a hoax perpetrated by the DNC and your girl is wrong . Vote him out


I support getting rid of him because he is an asshat who thinks as long as you support him you are better than anyone else. I support getting rid of him because he feels that if you are not on his side, you arent worthy of a place or a voice in this country. I support getting rid him because he emboldens and enables some of the worst traits this country has had, and I dont think there is jack shit GREAT about that.
 

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Never the less supporting getting rid of him based on a hoax perpetrated by the DNC and your girl is wrong . Vote him out
They can't vote him out they dont have the support they have to oust him out or worse. Only way. Even that buffoon democratic senator down south somewhere or who ever he was said the same thing
 

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I support getting rid of him because he is an asshat who thinks as long as you support him you are better than anyone else. Wrong,,, I support getting rid of him because he feels that if you are not on his side, you arent worthy of a place or a voice in this country. Oy Vey,,, I support getting rid him because he emboldens and enables some of the worst traits this country has had, Have you seen the Trump haters lately?.. not exactly good traits.and I dont think there is jack shit GREAT about that.
 

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I support getting rid of him because he is an asshat who thinks as long as you support him you are better than anyone else. I support getting rid of him because he feels that if you are not on his side, you arent worthy of a place or a voice in this country. I support getting rid him because he emboldens and enables some of the worst traits this country has had, and I dont think there is jack shit GREAT about that.
Then do it the right way vote him out
 

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Yes !
 

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I do find this funny ! Holes are being shot up on the muellar report and not much comment on that
 
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