politics thread

[Stymietee]

I'm with you dad. All we do on this thread is waste time. From taking time out with those who defend shoveling fried chicken down your throat to the infamous farting cows, and yes Sty, my logical mind cannot take much more. In some cases my eyesight is actually blurry after reading some of the garbage on here. Just last week I did battle with someone who insisted it was Trump himself who has kept the Russian conspiracy in the news for the last 2 plus years. In other words,, if he would have just stopped mentioning "no collusion" it would have died out long ago despite the media mentioning collusion 50 times a day for 2 plus years. This type of illogical thinking is what we're up against. So i'm all for putting the kobash on this thread. Getting ready for football anyway.

Just asking, so wouldn't a "logical" mind that finds the thing that it finds so annoying, literally pull itself from the offending property?

BTW: in a 24 hour news cycle, replaying what the Prez says over and over again in order to continue being part of the 24 hour news cycle, is in fact, our reality!!

So, wouldn't that self proclaimed "logical" mind which once again finds itself greatly bothered by this repetition (50 times a day for two plus years), logically, disengage from what that 24 hour news cycle is doing? Don't you logically agree?

 

[ehb5]

Democrats Accuse AG Barr of Doing Exactly What Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch Did for Obama

Double standards abound

So I take it you think both holder and Barr are in the wrong correct?

Or is it only a double standard for other people?

 

[Stymietee]

i have put up facts numerous times and named names . fact is there was no collusion nor was there any probable cause to start one .

I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree! Maybe this will help in plain ole' English, there is no provision in law with regards to "Collusion!"

The Mueller report points out 200 incidences of "conspiracy" which is a crime and 10 by my count (legal experts say 11) counts of obstructing justice. I don't give a flat damn what Barr has stated, because unlike a lot of people in this country, I took the time to read the entire publicly issued report myself. It is an interesting documentation of the investigations findings. Call me anal or more accurately, epistemophilic if you will, I'm cool with either!

 

[ehb5]

if you are too foolish to figure it out i cant help you . its in plain english and if you choose to believe in primitive thoughts thats on you

It's actually not in plain English since you refuse to actually answer the question.

 

[Stymietee]

I'll put my handle to it... shit as you can tell I really dont care whatsoever what anyone on this board thinks of me LOL

If my kid came home saying athiest, gay, bisexual, marrying a black guy/girl, a democrat(hes just going through a millenial phase) etc I wouldnt have a problem with it.

If my DAUGHTER came home and said she was marrying a Muslim guy, I would definitely have an issue with it. Disowning may be a bit too far but I would have something to say and its all about how women are generally viewed in islam. I probably wouldnt be too thrilled if my son was marrying a Muslim girl, however I'd know that she most likely isnt radical for marrying a non muslim I'd just be leery of her family.

I emoji "liked" your post because I have to respect your honestly!

Uh-oh, here it comes, so I'll attempt to be as careful in asking this question as possible.

Earlier you wrote: " Maybe the solution is to introduce every Muslim child to iPad's and western culture." and in this post wrote: "If my DAUGHTER came home and said she was marrying a Muslim guy, I would definitely have an issue with it." followed by; " I probably wouldn't be too thrilled if my son was marrying a Muslim girl, however I'd know that she most likely isn't radical for marrying a non Muslim I'd just be leery of her family."

I see the difference but isn't it possible that your daughter would be as successful in introducing then insisting upon living within the tenants of western democracy as your son, simply because you and their mother raised her that way?

 

[reptec101]

Just asking, so wouldn't a "logical" mind that finds the thing that it finds so annoying, literally pull itself from the offending property?

BTW: in a 24 hour news cycle, replaying what the Prez says over and over again in order to continue being part of the 24 hour news cycle, is in fact, our reality!!

So, wouldn't that self proclaimed "logical" mind which once again finds itself greatly bothered by this repetition (50 times a day for two plus years), logically, disengage from what that 24 hour news cycle is doing? Don't you logically agree?

Not certain why you keep dropping mics. Must have slippery fingers. Listen, how can one disengage from anything. Social media is everywhere. Oh you must have meant I should go live in a cave so my logical mind never aches and my vision stays un blurred.... but thats not logical, is it. No, unfortunately I must suffer through it until my last day on earth... cuz it dont appear the BS is ever gonna stop.

 

[skinsdad62]

It's actually not in plain English since you refuse to actually answer the question.

round and round we go where it lands nobody knows

 

[skinsdad62]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/liberal-response-to-seattle-r*pe

The narrative the left pushes causes thus kind of crap . MSM absent

 

[skinsdad62]

House Judiciary Committee votes 24-16 along party lines to cite Atty Gen Barr for contempt of Congress for failing to provide unredacted Mueller Report and supporting documents. Resolution is reported to the full House.

So Congressional Democrats are holding Barr in contempt for abiding by a law, Federal Rules Of Criminal Procedure 6(e), passed by Congress

 

[Sharkinva]

i have put up facts numerous times and named names . fact is there was no collusion nor was there any probable cause to start one .

You do realize that no conspiracy that rises to the level of being chargeable and proven beyond a doubt

and

No collusion/conspiracy at all

Are two different things right??

And sorry, but one of his campaign staff bragging they got dirt on HIllary from the Russians was considered probable cause to investigate. And something tells me if the subject of said investigation wore a D instead of an R, you would be pushing for it as hard as the emails.

 

[Stymietee]

Not certain why you keep dropping mics. Must have slippery fingers. Listen, how can one disengage from anything. Social media is everywhere. Oh you must have meant I should go live in a cave so my logical mind never aches and my vision stays un blurred.... but thats not logical, is it. No, unfortunately I must suffer through it until my last day on earth... cuz it dont appear the BS is ever gonna stop.

You already know why the mike drops! It's actually is my first use of it and you don't seem to catch on very easily that your "logic" isn't what you think it is. Deny all you want to but the point is made.

I'm older than you and perhaps self control isn't a thing for you. There's no law, edict, nor anything that I can think of that compels you to participate in any social media forum. Asking me how one disengages from anything merely underlines what sounds like an addiction. I'll honestly not be surprised if you declare that you're able to stop any time that you want!

There's plenty to do outside of being on social media sites. It is interesting and rather telling that you see all of life away from it as "living in a cave." Now as you read this keep in mind the last thing that you wrote above, because every word of it, applies to what preceded it.

 

[gkekoa]

As someone raised in a Muslim household, and who has family member still actually practicing the religion... I take acception at the sometimes things just are comment. As the Islam I know does not teach violence for the sake of violence. And at the end of the day, a real Muslim believes that All who believe in one God can be worthy of his bounty.

So, in your Muslim belief, I get 70 virgins for being an infidel? That is an interesting idea. Do I need to like him or simply believe? Is there a devil? If there is, he believes in God, so does he get the full bounty?

 

[gkekoa]

I'll not take offense at this and will maintain a position above inane name calling and related insinuations. We're supposed to be better than this!

That said, the United States in it's attempt to maintain some sense of fairness in law, put into place a legal standard to help assure that such improprieties at least go through that standard in order to have a principal or at minimum the appearance of such principals in order to maintain itself.

So, let's take a look at what the dictionary actually says about a spy. Take note of the word "secret," or "secretly" which when measured against what was actually done in this case, and is UNLIKE what took place under COINTELPRO, isn't spying at all, because they obtained court orders! What does that mean, well, in three words...the courts knew! Contrary to what William Barr claims "spying" is indeed a pejorative word! Do I also have to post the definition of "pejorative?"

spy
[spī]
NOUN

1. a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
   synonyms:
   secret agent · undercover agent · enemy agent · foreign agent ·
   espionage · undercover work · cloak-and-dagger activities ·
   [more]
2. VERB
   1. work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors.
      "he agreed to spy for the West"
      synonyms:
      espionage · undercover work · cloak-and-dagger activities ·
      [more]

It is by definition spying. Secretly does not mean nobody knows. It means the person being spied on doesn’t know. Seriously, synonyms include undercover agent.

 

[gkekoa]

Why do you continue to assign blame to one political side when in fact people do fucked up things?

Because one political side is far more violent, and the numbers fully support that.

 

[Stymietee]

House Judiciary Committee votes 24-16 along party lines to cite Atty Gen Barr for contempt of Congress for failing to provide unredacted Mueller Report and supporting documents. Resolution is reported to the full House.

So Congressional Democrats are holding Barr in contempt for abiding by a law, Federal Rules Of Criminal Procedure 6(e), passed by Congress

Why are you pushing this narrative? Surely you MUST know that it isn't true!

 

[Sharkinva]

So, in your Muslim belief, I get 70 virgins for being an infidel? That is an interesting idea. Do I need to like him or simply believe? Is there a devil? If there is, he believes in God, so does he get the full bounty?

Ah the 70 virgins thing... used by bigots everywhere to try and say see how screwed up Islam is. BUt to put that in context (which i know you love contexting shit) This ONLY applies in a holy war, and if one DIES as a result of said holy war defending Islam. As twisted as some Muslim leaders are in using this as some sort of motivation, one does NOT get that particular bounty if one is a suicide bomber, because thats not actually defending Islam.

Satan... yes he does exist in islam, he is a fallen angel, and he does work to tempt men to stray from their conviction to islam. And yes he two believes in God, because God created him. Even in his current role as a fallen angel and a tempter of men, Satan is ultimately following Gods plan, and as such it will be Gods decision on how to deal with Satan if and when creation ends.

 

[gkekoa]

To your main point, it's advisable to take another look at Christians, and I'll bet that at least 90% of them check off at least one of the listed boxes!

1. ideology towards gays...check
2. women as second class citizens...check
3. sympathizing with terrorist...check
4. purposely segregating...check
5. hating Jews, Christians, or other Muslim sects...check
.
Now I'll grant that all of these things are done in a different manner, but in fact they are practiced by so-called Christians! Please do be careful to note the four fingers pointing back at you as you point the one finger towards others!

Let’s take a look...

1- Christians believe the act of homosexuality is a sin. We do not believe they should be killed and they aren’t different than any other adulterer.

2- no Christian believes that women are second class. You are likely referring to women submitting to your husbands, which in no way means they are second class. 5his is a command to women to prevent irreconcilable differences. Men are also given a command on how they treat their wives. Men love your wives like Christ loved the church AND gave himself for it.

3- ?

4- ?

5- no Christian is supposed to hate.

Now, the biggest takeaway for any Christian should be this...we all fall short of the glory of God and it isn’t through our own actions that we are saved but through Grace.

 

[Stymietee]

Never mind!

 

[gkekoa]

Ah the 70 virgins thing... used by bigots everywhere to try and say see how screwed up Islam is. BUt to put that in context (which i know you love contexting shit) This ONLY applies in a holy war, and if one DIES as a result of said holy war defending Islam. As twisted as some Muslim leaders are in using this as some sort of motivation, one does NOT get that particular bounty if one is a suicide bomber, because thats not actually defending Islam.

Satan... yes he does exist in islam, he is a fallen angel, and he does work to tempt men to stray from their conviction to islam. And yes he two believes in God, because God created him. Even in his current role as a fallen angel and a tempter of men, Satan is ultimately following Gods plan, and as such it will be Gods decision on how to deal with Satan if and when creation ends.

Not at all...it is a serious question. Wouldn’t that be part of the full bounty you spoke of? Can you point out in the Koran where the seventy virgins is located so I can look it up in context?

You didn’t say it would be God’s decision...you said he would receive the full bounty. Does Islam believe in free will? Wouldn’t the suicide bomber also be acting in accord with God’s plan?

 

[Stymietee]

It is by definition spying. Secretly does not mean nobody knows. It means the person being spied on doesn’t know. Seriously, synonyms include undercover agent.

As a stand alone, you would be correct, but we aren't talking about that are we? We are talking about how our system is constructed. If you need a court order, then that's what you get. It's the best that we have at this time! In comparison to COINTELPRO, this is nothing!