politics thread

[Sharkinva]

Which ones?

Well he has already tried to have Trans members of the service discharged because they are trans.

He has constantly called the Press the enemy of the people (except for Fox News, they are ok apparently)

He started his campaign calling Mexicans rapists and criminals.

And lets not forget he also added the whole I want a complete ban on Muslims coming into the country thing at one point.

 

[j_y19]

Well he has already tried to have Trans members of the service discharged because they are trans.

He has constantly called the Press the enemy of the people (except for Fox News, they are ok apparently)

He started his campaign calling Mexicans rapists and criminals.

And lets not forget he also added the whole I want a complete ban on Muslims coming into the country thing at one point.

Hmm. Well, lets go one by one.

He tried to have trannys banned from the Military. I'm not familiar with this one. why, what was his reasoning? Was he supported by the DoD and was it a recommendation from his brass?

Here, I agree with him. The press, in its current form is the enemy of democracy and thus the people. Including Fox news. They are all pushing a political agenda. There is very little straight forward reporting anymore. We, the people, need a free and honest press to keep checks and balances on our government. We no longer have that.

He called the Mexicans that Mexico was sending to us rapists and criminals. Not all Mexicans. He is partially right. Some of them are. But it was a stupid comment from a little man.

He never was pushing a ban on all muslims. He was, however, suggesting a temporary stop of muslims from specific countries that he came to believe had interests in proliferating terrorism in this country. Again, I agreed with this.

 

[gkekoa]

1. Sweet, in fact it's a terrific spin Please take note that when "big name insurers" respond to this sort of questioning with answers that they ultimately, in fact do, then it's no longer an opinion.

2. Everybody, including you pays for someone else's care right now, (I get it you used "should") that however, is the reality of the current lack of a comprehensive nationalized plan that works for everyone.

3. Do we or don't we have the greatest military force in human history? How poorly has it been run?

Absolutely off base, I think that you refuse to take note of how liberty is applied! (Wow, I'm really good at giving out clues. It might be helpful to take note of this one)

1- Since when did statements create facts, especially when those statements enrich the person saying them?

2- We do, indirectly. If the government takes over, we will pay more.

3- We do because of the money spent on it, not the leadership. Fraud, waste, and abuse...corruption.

Again, I think you refuse to look at the definition.

 

[gkekoa]

At the United Nations General Assembly in September, when Trump said, as he had many times before to friendlier audiences, that “in less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” the delegates in the room erupted in guffaws. “Didn’t expect that reaction,” the president said, “but that’s okay.”

The World Isn’t Laughing at Just Trump

Donald Trump made himself a laughing stock again at the 43rd G7 Summit in Brussels. Apparently Trump is unfamiliar with what the North Atlantic Treaty Organization really is. Trump had our allies smiling, and snickering during his speech.

NATO Allies Caught On Camera Laughing At Trump During His Speech (VIDEO)



Heather Conley, senior vice president and director of the Europe program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told the Times that Trump has ushered in “a breakdown of the system”.

"It feels like we are treating our allies with contempt, while we are feting our adversaries."

"After a year and a half, I think most of the major allies have concluded that, to be honest with you, there really isn’t a relationship that they can build,” Conley added. “Or they can build it, like President Macron has, but it does not necessarily mean that there is going to be outcomes that ... support the national interests of our European and Canadian allies."

US Allies Are Laughing At Trump’s Claim That America Is Now ‘Respected Again’ - The Intellectualist

Perhaps the most telling demonstration of the depths of Trump's ignorance was the reactions of other world leaders as he spoke.

Several presidents and prime ministers were visible on camera, muttering, staring at each other, stupefied by what Trump was saying

Watch our allies laugh and whisper as Trump reveals he still has no idea how NATO works

So you were being literal?

Our allies, and our enemies, are finally having to pay their due. They may find statements comical, but the actions are what matters. Our allies are paying more of their actual share for defense.

BTW, fuck Macron. How is France doing? Are those Yellow Jackets still trying to cause an uprising?

As for Canada, they have a more provenly corrupt leader than ours was expect3d to be.

Then there is England and BREXIT. They are finally realizing their sovereignty was being trounced.

 

[skinsdad62]

I posted a link, we have all seen the video of Trump making claims at the G7 Summit that resulted in laughter and snickers that Trump acknowledged with the "didn't expect that" response. LOL at the MSM crutch you always trot out whenever Trump is criticized.

now its a crutch from the so called conservative . you guys are amazing . stop parroting foolishness from those sources and maybe you wont get hit with that crutch

 

[skinsdad62]

The notion that there are still people who don't understand or refuse to acknowledge that this dude is unfit for office, says a lot about his continued support and more about his supporters. (I think that there are a few here who call it "Trump hating.")

by whose standard sty ? yours ?

 

[gkekoa]

Well he has already tried to have Trans members of the service discharged because they are trans.

He has constantly called the Press the enemy of the people (except for Fox News, they are ok apparently)

He started his campaign calling Mexicans rapists and criminals.

And lets not forget he also added the whole I want a complete ban on Muslims coming into the country thing at one point.

Good. They suffer from an actual mental disorder.

They are acting like the enemy of the people by lying continuously to them.

Nope. He never called Mexicans rapists and criminals. He was referring to some of those who cross illegally.

Until vetted and it was temporary. This would be completely legal as well. When you are here, you have the freedom of religion. We don’t have to let anybody into this country.

 

[skinsdad62]

As I keep saying I understand the support. American first, job creation, tough in illegals. Who can argue with these policies? But the defense of the guy at every single turn, as if the world's out to get him and all of the criticism is fake news, is just nonsense. There is a reason they are referred to as The Cult as this is classic cult behavior.

He was right, he could shoot a man and retain their support. That pretty much says it all with regard to his supporters.

ok when the MSM at a 94% rate carries negative stuff on him one has to wonder . the MSM has been horribly wrong on this whole russian thing . simple questions dont get asked , most real news they dont cover

i understand how you are so woefully misinformed because you listen to crap reporting

i have put this challenge out before but it gets ignored . sit down , get a piece of paper out , go through nbc cbs abc , cnbc msnbc npr cnn HL and mark down positive to negative stories about trump . you will see the truth . sty ebb shark and others wont take the challenge . they fear the results .

any news organization that has a 94% positive or negative story rating probably is full of shit . 70-30 60 to 40 should be about right

next read , rules for radicals by saul alynsky . it lays out how to make the US a socialist state . check and see if that isnt happening already . again the above fear that result as well

my suspicion is you fear the results too . you talk about my closed mind yet you are the same

i trust conservative reporting . i dont trust socialist reporting

2 yrs ago i called out what was going to happen and 100% of it has come to pass i was mocked and so fort

most of you dont have the inclination to really investigate anything . i have put up sworn testimony , and documents proving my point . in return i get spin , word games , conspiracy nonsense etc and left wing propaganda

i cant use rush or breitbart or hannity or ingram or carlson or elder as any kind of source but you push garbage like the MSM , the huffington post or other george soros run out fits and call them gospel

the only people being decieved are the" useful diots " that is quoted by alynski which people should of read if they had any real point of having anything better then a cavemans understanding of politics

saying trump supporters are nothing more then blind zombies and they buy everything trump does and excuse everything he does is just intellectual laziness and pathetic

some of that is to get a rise out of people (trolling ) some of it is parroting , some of it is just plain ignorance , and some of it is just trying to lead someone into a gotcha moment

all these little twist of what socialism is wont work with me , you better come to the table with more then what you are bringing

so you are free to vote for the socialist candidate you will be getting but be prepared because there is no such thing as utopia

i get stupid responses from posters talking about how fox news has more viewers because conservative are fat slobs sitting around watching TV . any moron who thought about it might ask, why ? could it be they are unreliable and have proven to be so ?

 

[reptec101]

Oh no brother, don't back out of it now! You specifically charged me with doing this when in fact the game that was played on gullible minds took the bait, hook line and sinker. Two years ago this president who has the bully pulpit injected into the atmosphere all of that nonsense about collusion. The press continued to replay his insistence that "There's no collusion!" until it became in fact a talking point with one obvious conclusion. I said this at the beginning and I'll continue to say it. Stop buying into the dumb shit that this president puts into the air. He's a con artist and clearly this sort of thing proves exactly that! OK Sty,, had to move to the desktop as well as pour a bit of whiskey in me ol sipper to tackle this. So let me understand. Two years ago it was Trump; whom without being provoked started tweeting and rambling on that he did not collude with the Russians... and because of his nonstop insistent blather (that nobody had even mentioned before" the media then caught on and said "hey guys, there might be something to this." Then the whole FBI snowball effect started rolling straight to the dump all because Trump (without ever having any provocation or reason) just kept insisting he did not collude. Ok let me ask at this point... are you playing with me?

So if you want to charge me with doing something. you'd better come with more than you had to listen to it for two and a half years when you clearly had a choice, especially one that I repeatedly offered on this forum. It is interesting that as a charged "Trump hater" both the game that he's played on you and a lot of other people in this country has been proven true in the end. So let me clear this all up for anyone who's still not clear about what he's done too you. Trump has played no game that ive ever seen except playing hardball with foreign leaders (some dictators). Every game that has been played on him has, and continues.. to be proven false. The only choice you have repeatedly offered has been the rhetoric as I mentioned earlier that Trump is a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, a misogamist... and the list goes on. I personally find none of those traits in him. He's no more racist than you or I. We all have predjudices. It's human nature, but the man has been unfairly treated by women with their marches and protest when he is no different than you or I when appreciating the opposite sex for the beauty they possess. He's been unfairly treated by the press for not ever speaking of his accomplishments without negativity tossed in for dilution. Job growth has never been better for Blacks, Asians, Mexicans and Whites yet the democrats just want him out of office. To me that is very disheartening for the people of America.

There was no collusion from the beginning, Trump knew it and so did I, (Of course you did) therefore there couldn't possibly be a finding of any sort of collusion by any investigation of the same because there would and could never be an investigation of something that doesn't exist in law. Yet he kept repeating it because fools bought it...got it? Again, so it was Trump who kept screaming (without provocation mind you) that theres never been no collusion. Are you really going with that? It's like me continuously telling my wife I cheated on her without her even bringing it up in a conversation to begin with. This makes no sense. My logical mind cannot compute such nonsense. Sorry.

BTW: The Mueller report specifically states that there was never any investigation into collusion singularly. Now conspiracy, which the president NEVER mentions was reported to have occurred nearly 200 times and obstruction of justice which were outlined 10 times by my count and 11 by others are all in his report. Yet Trump walks free and impeachment is now off the table. Now they are after his tax returns. Will they ever let the man have a day off from the constant harassing BS they toss at him? Apparently not.

Listen my man, im not trying to battle you here. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of the man. I just believe (whether you think it's brainwashing or not) that he has been good for this country despite his arrogance. However, a lot of his arrogance points to the media in proven them wrong. If they would just let him be... he would probably shut up some. However, I'll never understand why he's so completely hated by you and everyone else on here that condemns his every move... when all he is,,, is simply all in for Americans. The arguments that he called all Mexicans rapist is an insult to the intelligence to those who believe that. You're smarter than that. Same for his hatred to all Muslims. It's ignorance at it's finest. The dude is a dick. I'm not ignorant to think otherwise, but he's been a pretty good president too. He deserves a chance without repeated harassment, but that won't happen. Again, not here to battle you Sty. A toast to one day a president we all can back.

 

[Stymietee]

1- Since when did statements create facts, especially when those statements enrich the person saying them?

2- We do, indirectly. If the government takes over, we will pay more.

3- We do because of the money spent on it, not the leadership. Fraud, waste, and abuse...corruption.

Again, I think you refuse to look at the definition.

1. Clearly you didn't read what I wrote or purposely ignored the key point so here it is again.
when "big name insurers" respond to this sort of questioning with answers that they ultimately, in fact do, then it's no longer an opinion.

2. That's horseshit and you know it, in fact Obamacare actually proves it, as does the health care systems in every industrialized country. Right now under private (job related) related insurances we pay more for less than other wealthy countries with universal healthcare. It is a fact that the gap between what we pay and what other countries pay is widening since 1970. (want another graph to prove this?)



3. The military is in place for one reason and that's to defend this country from and/or against all identifiable enemies. Using that metric our soldiers on the field of battle are second to none. (I do agree that there's tremendous waste, fraud, abuse...corruption in the federal system that governs it.

4. Lib·er·ty
[ˈlibərdē]
NOUN

1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
   "compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"
   synonyms:
   independence · freedom · autonomy · sovereignty · self government ·
   free · on the loose · loose · set loose · at large · unconfined ·
   right · birthright · opportunity · facility · prerogative · entitlement ·
   freedom · independence · free rein · freeness · license ·
   [more]
2. informal
   a presumptuous remark or action.
   "how did he know what she was thinking?—it was a liberty!"
3. informal
   a presumptuous remark or action.
   "how did he know what she was thinking?—it was a liberty!"
   synonyms:
   act with overfamiliarity · act with familiarity · show disrespect ·
   [more]

 

[Stymietee]

by whose standard sty ? yours ?

I know that you would love to turn this into my personal opinion, but of course that's not the case. List any metric that you please regarding his fitness for the office if you can. I doubt that you can defend anyone of them. BTW: We're not talking about the minimum requirements to run for office, at least 35 years old, a U.S. citizen (resident) for at least 14 years. What we are talking about are informal expectations for the highest office in the land. They include:
1. Most Americans want their presidential candidates to be of good general character. (He fails)
2. To be of high moral character (he fails)
3. Has the ability to act outside of political influence (he fails)
4. To be an influential and effective world leader (he fails miserably)
5. To be able to manage the national budget ( bad start but to be fair TBD)
6. Is mentally stable by typical standards ( he fails)
7. Is intellectually above the average American (we all agree that he's a dumbass)
8. Doesn't enrich himself or his family because of the office he holds (he fails)
9. Distinguishes and distances himself from indications that he is in violation of Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8 of the constitution (Emoluments clause...he fails)
10. Isn't a dictator want-to-be, who fosters mistrust in the media, ignores the rule of law, hires then fires AG's until he finds one that is willing to serve as his personal legal representative and doesn't turn the military into a domestic political tool. (he passes)

Here are mine, I'm looking forward to your list!

 

[gkekoa]

1. Clearly you didn't read what I wrote or purposely ignored the key point so here it is again.
when "big name insurers" respond to this sort of questioning with answers that they ultimately, in fact do, then it's no longer an opinion.

2. That's horseshit and you know it, in fact Obamacare actually proves it, as does the health care systems in every industrialized country. Right now under private (job related) related insurances we pay more for less than other wealthy countries with universal healthcare. It is a fact that the gap between what we pay and what other countries pay is widening since 1970. (want another graph to prove this?)

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3. The military is in place for one reason and that's to defend this country from and/or against all identifiable enemies. Using that metric our soldiers on the field of battle are second to none. (I do agree that there's tremendous waste, fraud, abuse...corruption in the federal system that governs it.

4. Lib·er·ty
[ˈlibərdē]
NOUN

1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
   "compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"
   synonyms:
   independence · freedom · autonomy · sovereignty · self government ·
   free · on the loose · loose · set loose · at large · unconfined ·
   right · birthright · opportunity · facility · prerogative · entitlement ·
   freedom · independence · free rein · freeness · license ·
   [more]
2. informal
   a presumptuous remark or action.
   "how did he know what she was thinking?—it was a liberty!"
3. informal
   a presumptuous remark or action.
   "how did he know what she was thinking?—it was a liberty!"
   synonyms:
   act with overfamiliarity · act with familiarity · show disrespect ·
   [more]

1- how can something be a fact, when it has never been proven?

2- We pay more because we have 325 million people and about 60% are obese. We also have abnormal levels of mental health issues. Since 1970...sounds about when Medicare kicked in...government gets involved and prices take off.

3- on the field of battle...agreed. Generals and admirals aren’t on the field of battle. They are politicians.

4- I am glad you posted it...but did you read it? Staying out of our lives...allowing us as individuals to sink or swim.

 

[Stymietee]

1- how can something be a fact, when it has never been proven?

2- We pay more because we have 325 million people and about 60% are obese. We also have abnormal levels of mental health issues. Since 1970...sounds about when Medicare kicked in...government gets involved and prices take off.

3- on the field of battle...agreed. Generals and admirals aren’t on the field of battle. They are politicians.

4- I am glad you posted it...but did you read it? Staying out of our lives...allowing us as individuals to sink or swim.

1. You're not that dense, c'mon man! When someone says that they are going to do something and then do exactly that, what they said and did were factual!

2. Now you're changing the goalpost and narrative.

3. The as a government entity it run well for the reasons why it was formed.

There are ways where government intervention into our lives creates more liberty. Tell you what, later today, I'll give you the answer that appears to be escaping you.

 

[Stymietee]

Oh no brother, don't back out of it now! You specifically charged me with doing this when in fact the game that was played on gullible minds took the bait, hook line and sinker. Two years ago this president who has the bully pulpit injected into the atmosphere all of that nonsense about collusion. The press continued to replay his insistence that "There's no collusion!" until it became in fact a talking point with one obvious conclusion. I said this at the beginning and I'll continue to say it. Stop buying into the dumb shit that this president puts into the air. He's a con artist and clearly this sort of thing proves exactly that! OK Sty,, had to move to the desktop as well as pour a bit of whiskey in me ol sipper to tackle this. So let me understand. Two years ago it was Trump; whom without being provoked started tweeting and rambling on that he did not collude with the Russians... and because of his nonstop insistent blather (that nobody had even mentioned before" the media then caught on and said "hey guys, there might be something to this." Then the whole FBI snowball effect started rolling straight to the dump all because Trump (without ever having any provocation or reason) just kept insisting he did not collude. Ok let me ask at this point... are you playing with me?

So if you want to charge me with doing something. you'd better come with more than you had to listen to it for two and a half years when you clearly had a choice, especially one that I repeatedly offered on this forum. It is interesting that as a charged "Trump hater" both the game that he's played on you and a lot of other people in this country has been proven true in the end. So let me clear this all up for anyone who's still not clear about what he's done too you. Trump has played no game that ive ever seen except playing hardball with foreign leaders (some dictators). Every game that has been played on him has, and continues.. to be proven false. The only choice you have repeatedly offered has been the rhetoric as I mentioned earlier that Trump is a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, a misogamist... and the list goes on. I personally find none of those traits in him. He's no more racist than you or I. We all have predjudices. It's human nature, but the man has been unfairly treated by women with their marches and protest when he is no different than you or I when appreciating the opposite sex for the beauty they possess. He's been unfairly treated by the press for not ever speaking of his accomplishments without negativity tossed in for dilution. Job growth has never been better for Blacks, Asians, Mexicans and Whites yet the democrats just want him out of office. To me that is very disheartening for the people of America.

There was no collusion from the beginning, Trump knew it and so did I, (Of course you did) therefore there couldn't possibly be a finding of any sort of collusion by any investigation of the same because there would and could never be an investigation of something that doesn't exist in law. Yet he kept repeating it because fools bought it...got it? Again, so it was Trump who kept screaming (without provocation mind you) that theres never been no collusion. Are you really going with that? It's like me continuously telling my wife I cheated on her without her even bringing it up in a conversation to begin with. This makes no sense. My logical mind cannot compute such nonsense. Sorry.

BTW: The Mueller report specifically states that there was never any investigation into collusion singularly. Now conspiracy, which the president NEVER mentions was reported to have occurred nearly 200 times and obstruction of justice which were outlined 10 times by my count and 11 by others are all in his report. Yet Trump walks free and impeachment is now off the table. Now they are after his tax returns. Will they ever let the man have a day off from the constant harassing BS they toss at him? Apparently not.

Listen my man, im not trying to battle you here. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of the man. I just believe (whether you think it's brainwashing or not) that he has been good for this country despite his arrogance. However, a lot of his arrogance points to the media in proven them wrong. If they would just let him be... he would probably shut up some. However, I'll never understand why he's so completely hated by you and everyone else on here that condemns his every move... when all he is,,, is simply all in for Americans. The arguments that he called all Mexicans rapist is an insult to the intelligence to those who believe that. You're smarter than that. Same for his hatred to all Muslims. It's ignorance at it's finest. The dude is a dick. I'm not ignorant to think otherwise, but he's been a pretty good president too. He deserves a chance without repeated harassment, but that won't happen. Again, not here to battle you Sty. A toast to one day a president we all can back.

OK Sty,, had to move to the desktop as well as pour a bit of whiskey in me ol sipper to tackle this. So let me understand. Two years ago it was Trump; whom without being provoked started tweeting and rambling on that he did not collude with the Russians... and because of his nonstop insistent blather (that nobody had even mentioned before" the media then caught on and said "hey guys, there might be something to this." Then the whole FBI snowball effect started rolling straight to the dump all because Trump (without ever having any provocation or reason) just kept insisting he did not collude. Ok let me ask at this point... are you playing with me?
Total misread by you! While it is true that Trump wasn't the first to talk about collusion, but keep in mind that it's been his own life and actions that bought such talk on in the first place. (I'll talk about the "coup" nonsense in a separate post.) Innocent players generally ignore such talk and usually because of the no response it dies on its own. An innocent man doesn't have to insist on his innocence and as of January 18th 2018, Trump has proclaimed "No collusion at least 140 times.
How many times has Trump said 'no collusion'? - Quora
www.quora.com/How-many-times-has-Trump-said-no-collusion

Trump has played no game that ive ever seen except playing hardball with foreign leaders (some dictators). Every game that has been played on him has, and continues.. to be proven false. The only choice you have repeatedly offered has been the rhetoric as I mentioned earlier that Trump is a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, a misogamist... and the list goes on. I personally find none of those traits in him. He's no more racist than you or I. We all have predjudices. It's human nature, but the man has been unfairly treated by women with their marches and protest when he is no different than you or I when appreciating the opposite sex for the beauty they possess. He's been unfairly treated by the press for not ever speaking of his accomplishments without negativity tossed in for dilution. Job growth has never been better for Blacks, Asians, Mexicans and Whites yet the democrats just want him out of office. To me that is very disheartening for the people of America.

First, you're confusing me with @Shark relative to your nouns. BTW: there's a distinct difference between being prejudiced and being a racist. Now if you don't or can't currently see the game that he's playing on you then clearly he continues to take advantage of whatever blinders you happen to have blocking you. This will take some introspection as nothing said here can help you do that.

Again, so it was Trump who kept screaming (without provocation mind you) that theres never been no collusion. Are you really going with that? It's like me continuously telling my wife I cheated on her without her even bringing it up in a conversation to begin with. This makes no sense. My logical mind cannot compute such nonsense. Sorry.

Please stop with the logical mind BS, that perhaps contributes to the blinders that I wrote about in my previous answer. However, let's play it your way and remind you of those 140 times that he's repeated this "no collusion" mantra. Yes, absolutely YES!! he's stated it in response to a question not specifically with collusion as the subject. For example, when asked "will he fire Mueller," he will give some answer to that question and on his own add the "no collusion!" mantra. Now call it what you will, but in fact that's gaming your supporters.
On a side note; If you cheated on your wife and didn't have the inner fortitude to admit to your indiscretion then the lie by omission potentially endangers your family. How's that for checking your logical mind?

BTW: I'm here for the entertainment value that comes with a healthy exchange of ideas, perspectives and of course football. I'm also not here to battle you nor anyone else on this board, I respect all points of view and challenge those that cannot be proven by factual investigation and statistical analysis. A look at his policies and they don't appear to be any different than any other president, however, with this man, and I use that advisedly, unlike any other president, HOW those policies are informed and executed distinguishes him from every other in modern history. While you might see the manner in which he does things as a positive, I do not! Oh well! ​

 

[Stymietee]

If you drive without insurance, you get fined. And the reality is, some people choose to take the fine rather than purchase insurance because the fine was less than the insurance over the year.

The most important part of the ACA was that companies could not deny you coverage, or charge you more based on a pre-existing condition.

 

[Stymietee]

Sty "hating" Trump again!

US: 500 ex-prosecutors say Trump should be charged with ...

https://www.dw.com/en/us-500-ex-prosecutors-say-trump-should-be-charged-with...
News US: 500 ex-prosecutors say Trump should be charged with obstruction. Donald Trump tried to fire Robert Mueller and intimidate witnesses, hundreds of US ex-prosecutors said in a letter.

 

[Stymietee]

just a thought , the current white house isnt beholden to anyone

How do you know this? No one has seen his taxes, you know...the ones that would clear up any hold that a foreign bank might have on him, especially foreign banks tied to the Russians! Yep the same Russians who absolutely interfered with our election and who are bound to do it again because our president won't acknowledge what all of our investigative agencies are telling him and do something about it before the 2020 elections. Now in my best Ed McMahon.....Heeeeeeeeeer's Eric!

Eric Trump said Trump golf courses got $100 million in ...
https://www.businessinsider.com/eric-trump-golf-courses-russia-funding-2017-5

 

[Stymietee]

1. You're not that dense, c'mon man! When someone says that they are going to do something and then do exactly that, what they said and did were factual!

2. Now you're changing the goalpost and narrative.

3. The as a government entity it run well for the reasons why it was formed.

There are ways where government intervention into our lives creates more liberty. Tell you what, later today, I'll give you the answer that appears to be escaping you.

 

[Stymietee]

1- how can something be a fact, when it has never been proven?

2- We pay more because we have 325 million people and about 60% are obese. We also have abnormal levels of mental health issues. Since 1970...sounds about when Medicare kicked in...government gets involved and prices take off.

3- on the field of battle...agreed. Generals and admirals aren’t on the field of battle. They are politicians.

4- I am glad you posted it...but did you read it? Staying out of our lives...allowing us as individuals to sink or swim.

Sorry about the rushed response to your post. Too many errors and for that I apologize! Here's the corrected response.

1. You're not that dense, c'mon man! When someone says that they are going to do something and then do exactly that, what they said and did becomes factual!

2. Now you're moving the goalpost and changing the narrative.

3. The military as a government entity is run extremely well relative to the reasons why it was formed.

There are ways in which government intervention into our lives creates more liberty. Tell you what, later today, I'll give you the answer that appears to be escaping you. Remember the question is, "When it comes to healthcare insurance, what is the overwhelming reason not to create a national healthcare plan for all?"​

 

[Stymietee]

ok when the MSM at a 94% rate carries negative stuff on him one has to wonder . the MSM has been horribly wrong on this whole russian thing . simple questions dont get asked , most real news they dont cover

i understand how you are so woefully misinformed because you listen to crap reporting

i have put this challenge out before but it gets ignored . sit down , get a piece of paper out , go through nbc cbs abc , cnbc msnbc npr cnn HL and mark down positive to negative stories about trump . you will see the truth . sty ebb shark and others wont take the challenge . they fear the results .

any news organization that has a 94% positive or negative story rating probably is full of shit . 70-30 60 to 40 should be about right

next read , rules for radicals by saul alynsky . it lays out how to make the US a socialist state . check and see if that isnt happening already . again the above fear that result as well

my suspicion is you fear the results too . you talk about my closed mind yet you are the same

i trust conservative reporting . i dont trust socialist reporting

2 yrs ago i called out what was going to happen and 100% of it has come to pass i was mocked and so fort

most of you dont have the inclination to really investigate anything . i have put up sworn testimony , and documents proving my point . in return i get spin , word games , conspiracy nonsense etc and left wing propaganda

i cant use rush or breitbart or hannity or ingram or carlson or elder as any kind of source but you push garbage like the MSM , the huffington post or other george soros run out fits and call them gospel

the only people being decieved are the" useful diots " that is quoted by alynski which people should of read if they had any real point of having anything better then a cavemans understanding of politics

saying trump supporters are nothing more then blind zombies and they buy everything trump does and excuse everything he does is just intellectual laziness and pathetic

some of that is to get a rise out of people (trolling ) some of it is parroting , some of it is just plain ignorance , and some of it is just trying to lead someone into a gotcha moment

all these little twist of what socialism is wont work with me , you better come to the table with more then what you are bringing

so you are free to vote for the socialist candidate you will be getting but be prepared because there is no such thing as utopia

i get stupid responses from posters talking about how fox news has more viewers because conservative are fat slobs sitting around watching TV . any moron who thought about it might ask, why ? could it be they are unreliable and have proven to be so ?

Now you know that I love challenges, so since you seemed to have rejected my original response to this "challenge" I'll make a go of it one more time! In exchange you have to respond to my challenge fair enough?

Here's your challenge:

"i have put this challenge out before but it gets ignored . sit down , get a piece of paper out , go through nbc cbs abc , cnbc msnbc npr cnn HL and mark down positive to negative stories about trump . you will see the truth . sty ebb shark and others wont take the challenge . they fear the results."

I'll admit that there's an overwhelming number of, shall we say, not very flattering stories about Trump on a lot of these networks. So, you're right about that! Now in as much as why they are there, I'd say that he's earned every one of these reports. In fact, my challenge to you might prove why he's earned them so here it is...

List the positive stories that has earned this dude praise that he himself hasn't stepped on! I'll bet that you can't list more than 20 instances over the 2 1/2 years that he's been in office.

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