politics thread

[Stymietee]

They dream of a DMZ like the one in Korea. 2.5 miles of land backed by a wall and followed up by armed military with orders to shoot on site. Its the only humane solution after all.

We both know that it's not really about the border security and so do they.

 

[Stymietee]

sorry , he is a leftist

Do you really want this conversation to end?

 

[j_y19]

sorry but i dont think its an issue

Then you are turning a blind eye to what these types of behaviors mean in a person. it’s just another in a long string of character flaws that have convinced me this guy has no business being the leader of the free world.

 

[Sharkinva]

We both know that it's not really about the border security and so do they.

I always wonder, if the majority of people sneaking across the border looked like this, would there be an issue

 

[skinsdad62]

Nope, there aren’t more important issues? You are just proving DGF right in his claim to your blindness to Trump. Sorry, but if this is truly how you feel (which I doubt), then one can rightly question your credibility on any other issues concerning your objectivity to him.

mccain the politician wasnt all that great . he turned in a dossier that he knew was fake because he wanted to get trump . and trump has every right to be mad .

numerous times macain had voted to repeal and replace obamacare when he KNEW obama would veto it but when push came to shove with a president who would sign it he couldnt get past his hatred of trump and do whats best for the country

again i cant blame trump for being mad at him

they both hated each other , and trump answered a question posed to him

there are a shit ton of people i knew who passed and i didnt like . and if questioned about it i would say something about it

now is our president mature ? hell no !!! is he an asshole ? hell yes but i knew i wasnt getting a choir boy

but if you think the world has stopped spinning because trump said some crap about mccain then you need to reevaluate it

 

[skinsdad62]

Then you are turning a blind eye to what these types of behaviors mean in a person. it’s just another in a long string of character flaws that have convinced me this guy has no business being the leader of the free world.

well if those flaws are that important to you then vote your conscious and know what you are voting for as the bottom line

me ? i dont see these things as being deal breakers when the alternative is horrendous

 

[skinsdad62]

We both know that it's not really about the border security and so do they.

it has always been about border security and always will be . i outlined what i want to see .

 

[skinsdad62]

Do you really want this conversation to end?

again i am not going to listen to an leftist rewriting history to suit his agenda . that like me sending you a sean hannity piece and calling it legit

it isnt

 

[j_y19]

I always wonder, if the majority of people sneaking across the border looked like this, would there be an issue

Yes, it would still be an issue. You fail to recognize that most of us that feel more stringent border security has nothing to do with where they come from (or what race they are) but what they do once they get here. You’ve been beating this drum for a while and, honestly it’s never sat well with me. I know I couldn’t care less about their ethnicity and I also know that many that feel like me. We are not racists for wanting all of our laws enforced. They need to come here via legal means. I may not be for the wall (for a couple of reasons, but I am all for limiting illegal immigration as much as we can.

 

[skinsdad62]

I always wonder, if the majority of people sneaking across the border looked like this, would there be an issue

you always see race when it has nothing to do with it its not racist to want people to come here legally . how would you like me to base things on your race based on what the black panthers and louis farrakhan stand for or say ?

 

[j_y19]

well if those flaws are that important to you then vote your conscious and know what you are voting for as the bottom line

me ? i dont see these things as being deal breakers when the alternative is horrendous

That’s my intention. But unlike others on this forum, until then, he is my president. Just as I did with Obama, he will get both my criticism and support as my president.

 

[Stymietee]

Let's get some clarity here. Now before I ask this question...Nobody is a racists... who answers in the affirmative. We've been talking around a basic premise and I personally need to know if it's still true. Thanks in advance! (Again no judgements!!)

Ready??...True or false?

"America has been and remains a "white" Christian country"

 

[Stymietee]

you always see race when it has nothing to do with it its not racist to want people to come here legally . how would you like me to base things on your race based on what the black panthers and louis farrakhan stand for or say ?

You just did.

 

[Sharkinva]

Yes, it would still be an issue. You fail to recognize that most of us that feel more stringent border security has nothing to do with where they come from (or what race they are) but what they do once they get here. You’ve been beating this drum for a while and, honestly it’s never sat well with me. I know I couldn’t care less about their ethnicity and I also know that many that feel like me. We are not racists for wanting all of our laws enforced. They need to come here via legal means. I may not be for the wall (for a couple of reasons, but I am all for limiting illegal immigration as much as we can.

you always see race when it has nothing to do with it its not racist to want people to come here legally . how would you like me to base things on your race based on what the black panthers and louis farrakhan stand for or say ?

Look guys, you both pretend that race has NOTHING to do with it. Even when shown that our immigration laws, especially when talking about the southern border were built specifically to prevent a particular race from coming into the country. You act as if senior advisors who have shown that its about race, mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. And elected officials pushing white supremacy agendas, well that should just be ignored.

I take both of you guys at your word when you say, its not about race for you. But I also realize that the fear Trump pushes, and our immigration system at large was designed to keep America as a certain racial majority, and if nothing else keep a certain racial group in control as much as humanly possible.

 

[Stymietee]

I see no problem at all with this, they should have to pay all that back, and when they do they’ll realize in order to do so. They’re going to need people like trump running this country so they can afford to do this. Not fruit loops like AOC and Bernie who wants to control their lives and take all they earn and their freedoms from them

Is this really reasonable?

 

[Stymietee]

So let me get this straight , I am not allowed to hold DACA kids responsible for their parents crimes .

But I am responsible for slave owners in the 17 th century

The problem is few on the right and ONLY a handful on the left honestly want to make it possible for dreamers to become citizens. DACA does not provide a path to citizenship for recipients, known as Dreamers, so YOU aren't responsible for anything personally. We all are!

YOU are however, a modern day, direct beneficiary of the enslavement of people.

 

[Stymietee]

Doesn't bother me. Songbird McCain's spiteful role in the dossier/investigation hinders Trump still. So he may be worm fodder but I won't praise him just cuz he's a carcass rotting.

Keep in mind that there was an ongoing debate about the "Steele Dossier" and who originally started and funded it. Now if there are people here who want to call Trump a liar on this, well...which kind is he?

 

[Stymietee]

again not buying crap from leftist publications with agendas

Dude, it's an interactive map, and good, that is, if you believe your own eyes!

 

[Stymietee]

again i am not going to listen to an leftist rewriting history to suit his agenda . that like me sending you a sean hannity piece and calling it legit

it isnt

Isn't it true if it's fact/data based? What difference does it make if it is factual or supported by qualitative or quantitative datal?... or are we at a point where ONLY things that we agree with are fact?

BTW: with respect to Hannity...I know the difference between "news and "news programming." no matter the source.

 

[Stymietee]

An illegal alien from El Salvador was Arrested in California Monday for beating and stabbing Bambi Larson to death in her own home


10 prior arrests in 3 years in the US


6 ICE detainers, all ignored by sanctuary state California


Why won't Democrats put American lives first?

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