politics thread

[skinsdad62]

Dude.. I been living here for 50 years without a wall along the southern border. So a symbol of fear and hate at a cost of billions of dollars is not a cost of living here. Its a waste of money to give a minority of the population a false sense of security.

Except it’s the majority . What you want us simply socialist open borders world govt George Soris style

 

[Sharkinva]

Except it’s the majority . What you want us simply socialist open borders world govt George Soris style

69% of Americans Don’t Think Trump's Border Wall Is a Priority, Poll Says

A majority of Republicans maybe. A majority of Americans simply dont hold to the wall as needed no matter how much Brietbart wishes it were different.

 

[skinsdad62]

69% of Americans Don’t Think Trump's Border Wall Is a Priority, Poll Says

A majority of Republicans maybe. A majority of Americans simply dont hold to the wall as needed no matter how much Brietbart wishes it were different.

A poll from NPR ? Come on

 

[Sharkinva]

A poll from NPR ? Come on

Poll: More Americans want Trump to give up on wall funding than prefer Dems agree to it

 

[gkekoa]

How are you guys not talking about Covington Catholic?

That is the biggest media misfire I have seen to date. On Saturday it was the definition of fake news before the entire story unraveled and it turned out to be just blood thirsty media members and celebrities trying to publicly execute teenagers.

These kids were targeted by media because they were white and wearing MAGA hats. The initial coverage of them could not of been more racist.

Sunday morning I texted some of my most liberal friends and told them “remember this 24 hour reel when trump gets re elected and you are wondering how? Or why?”

People should be in jail over this. What’s even worse is race hustlers like jemele hill doubling down despite overwhelming evidence that her initial take was wrong and racist.

I was reading the origin of the story was initially tweeted out by 1 person and was picked up by hundreds and hundreds of bots on twitter until media began running the story to paint a false narrative and persecute white kids.

We know social media monsters like twitter are incredibly liberal and censor right wing thought while promoting left wing thought even if it’s intolerant. I think this is worth some sort of investigation to be honest

We are becoming numb to the fake narrative, and the lack of a left

 

[Toadman005]

 

[skinsdad62]

Debunking the Criticism of Trump’s Economic Policies

 

[skinsdad62]

Poll: More Americans want Trump to give up on wall funding than prefer Dems agree to it

CBS news poll , come on ! Find a non msm poll and I might buy it the same polling sources who got the election wrong

 

[Sharkinva]

CBS news poll , come on ! Find a non msm poll and I might buy it the same polling sources who got the election wrong

Find me a non brietbart or other right leaning publication that supports Trumps agenda??

At the end of the day Trump is punishing 800K+ Americans to try and force an agenda that at BEST a little under half the country supports.

 

[skinsdad62]

Laredo Community College solved its illegal-immigration problem with an eight-foot-tall, mile-long fence.
One day last August, I was on a ride-along with the Border Patrol when we received a signal from one of Uncle Sam’s motion detectors: Illegal aliens were advancing towards the Rio Grande. We arrived at the scene within minutes. Unfortunately, they were already gone.

From their tracks, it looked like three to four people. Not too far from where we stood, there were several roads and houses adjacent to the river’s edge. The aliens had likely either been picked up by a waiting vehicle or disappeared into a nearby house.

More likely than not, they are probably still in the U.S.

My days with the Border Patrol were arranged by the U.S. Attorney’s Office to which I had been assigned, and they served as an opportunity for me, as a new prosecutor, to get more familiar with the procedures, operations, duties, and responsibilities of the agency. The more I understood their job, the better I could do my job as a prosecutor.

Every day on the border felt like Groundhog’s Day, a never-ending cycle as 200 to 600 people illegally crossed every 24 hours in our sector alone. As they exited the Rio Grande, they cut through backyards, playgrounds, shopping centers, ranches, bus stops, and more. We would see them in our cameras and track them with our motion detectors, but we lacked the manpower to do much else.

Our sector has 200 miles of border. The Border Patrol simply couldn’t get everywhere in time. More often than not, they were too late. Our best estimate is that fewer than one in three illegal aliens were caught.

Not that it always mattered: Even after getting caught, some of the illegal immigrants would taunt us that they’d “see you again real soon.” (And sometimes, they were right.) From top to bottom, it was a complete and utter security failure.

But there was one spot on the border that was secured. A place where the people are safe. It’s the lone wall (well, technically it’s a fence) of Laredo.

Laredo Community College looks like any other university campus in America. What makes it unique, however, is that it’s directly adjacent to the Mexican/American border. Its southern edge runs a full mile along a calm and easily navigable stretch of the Rio Grande.

But despite bordering Mexico for a mile — in a sector with overwhelming numbers of illegal migrants, no less — Laredo Community College isn’t visited by illegal aliens. They avoid it entirely. The reason for this is simple: Laredo Community College built an eight-foot-tall security fence on its southern edge, just 150 yards from the Rio Grande.

Prior to this, the college had been having the same issues as everyone else. College administrators were inundated with phone calls about illegal aliens cutting across its campus. Though most aliens were nonviolent and left the students alone, not all of them did. There were thefts, assaults, robberies, and more.

Border Patrol agents were constantly receiving emergency calls about the mayhem on the campus — and of course, when agents showed up, the aliens would take flight, creating dangerous and disruptive chases. Can you imagine if your school or workplace were the site of quasi-daily law-enforcement hot pursuits? That was simply part of the Laredo Community College experience.

And although illegal immigrants were a nuisance, the real danger to the university and its students were the cartel members using the campus, specifically the tennis courts and parking lot, to make major drug deals. Right across the border from Laredo is the Mexican city of Nuevo Laredo. Like many border towns in Mexico, it has been completely taken over by the drug cartels. With alarming frequency I would hear gunfire from Mexico as the cartels fought one another (or, occasionally, the Mexican government). These cartels used to trespass onto the college campus to make drug deals.

At least until they built the wall.

It’s nothing fancy. It is made of wrought-iron bars and runs a mile in length on the southern side of the campus, right where the illegal aliens and smugglers used to cross to enter campus.

As it was being constructed, just like now, there was a lot of criticism and naysaying. You heard the same things you are hearing today: “They’ll simply go around it!” or “They’ll just go over it or tunnel under it!” and, of course, the insipid soundbite, “Walls don’t work.”

So what happened after a mile of security fence was erected? Immediately, the number of phone calls about illegal aliens on campus, and corresponding Border Patrol pursuits, dropped to near zero. The number of reports of cartel activity on the tennis courts and parking lots also dropped to near zero. When I was there, I could see for myself how the college campus today is a quiet and peaceful place, free from the dangerous or disruptive criminal activity that dominates the rest of the border.

And what happened to the illegal immigrants and drug smugglers? Did they just disappear or stop trying to come across the border? Of course not. But when they still tried to come over, what happened proved that walls do work.

Most illegal immigrants and smugglers, rather than going over or under the wall, would instead just go around it. This meant that the ends of the wall became “choke points” where the Border Patrol could concentrate its manpower.

But what about the aliens who did try to go over the fence or tunnel under it? After all, the fence is only eight feet tall, and the ground under it is soft and diggable. Nonetheless, the fence was still an effective solution:

Even though the fence added just a few extra minutes to an illegal alien’s or drug smuggler’s journey, that translates to a few minutes for law enforcement to arrive in time to apprehend the criminals. A few extra minutes will change the numerous near-misses like the ones I experienced into actual arrests.

A fence isn’t a magical fix or cure-all. It is a tool that, like any other tool, must be used properly and under the right circumstances to make a difference. It’s just common sense. To argue otherwise is to be willfully ignorant.

But you know who isn’t ignorant about border security? The graduates of the Laredo Community College. They learned all about border security in college.

From the national review , it explains how walls work and why we need them .
https://www.nationalreview.com/author/matt-c-pinsker/

 

[Toadman005]

Find me a non brietbart or other right leaning publication that supports Trumps agenda??

At the end of the day Trump is punishing 800K+ Americans to try and force an agenda that at BEST a little under half the country supports.

Pelosi better realize, it's she that is taking PR damage. Not Trump.

 

[gkekoa]

Find me a non brietbart or other right leaning publication that supports Trumps agenda??

At the end of the day Trump is punishing 800K+ Americans to try and force an agenda that at BEST a little under half the country supports.

Trump is? Funny, I thought the House controls the budget. Now, if the Trump was asking for 100 billion, maybe you would have a point, but considering the wall would have already been paid for had the House simply funded it, I would say the House is responsible for the furlough.

 

[gkekoa]

Oh...I also forgot that they took a vote in the House on a bill to pay those employees, but only 6 dems said yes so the bill didn’t pass.

 

[Sharkinva]

Trump is? Funny, I thought the House controls the budget. Now, if the Trump was asking for 100 billion, maybe you would have a point, but considering the wall would have already been paid for had the House simply funded it, I would say the House is responsible for the furlough.

Its the principle. If you didnt think your child should have a barbie doll and your son said Im not going to clean my room until you buy it for me. Are you going to buy him the doll knowing that next time he wants something you are philosophically against, he will likely just up the anti and decide he wont shower until you take him to buy a sun dress and 6 inch heels??

Yes i used an extreme that I know would be against your principles on purpose to show you just the type of situation Trump has tried to put the congress in. He has taken federal workers hostage. We asa country do not negotiate with hostage takers.

 

[gkekoa]

Its the principle. If you didnt think your child should have a barbie doll and your son said Im not going to clean my room until you buy it for me. Are you going to buy him the doll knowing that next time he wants something you are philosophically against, he will likely just up the anti and decide he wont shower until you take him to buy a sun dress and 6 inch heels??

Yes i used an extreme that I know would be against your principles on purpose to show you just the type of situation Trump has tried to put the congress in. He has taken federal workers hostage. We asa country do not negotiate with hostage takers.

Except in this case, it is more like husband and half the wife because the executive and legislative branches are equal in power; however, the House is only one half of the legislative.

So let’s look at it this way, the House, one-half the legislative branch of government, is holding 800k workers hostage over their principles of foreigners deserve to come in and out of this country at will. Trump already offered 3 years deferment to DACA and TPS, which is called negotiation, for the 5 billion for a wall. Apparently, Trump is trying to negotiate with hostage takers in the House.

 

[Sharkinva]

Except in this case, it is more like husband and half the wife because the executive and legislative branches are equal in power; however, the House is only one half of the legislative.

So let’s look at it this way, the House, one-half the legislative branch of government, is holding 800k workers hostage over their principles of foreigners deserve to come in and out of this country at will. Trump already offered 3 years deferment to DACA and TPS, which is called negotiation, for the 5 billion for a wall. Apparently, Trump is trying to negotiate with hostage takers in the House.

Trump is the one who took the protection AWAY from DACA and TPS folks. So how is it negotiation to say, I just took this away. But I will give it back temporarily if you give me $5B and allow me to take other immigration laws away or seriously limit them.

 

[gkekoa]

Trump is the one who took the protection AWAY from DACA and TPS folks. So how is it negotiation to say, I just took this away. But I will give it back temporarily if you give me $5B and allow me to take other immigration laws away or seriously limit them.

He took it away because it isn’t law. He took it away to force the hand of Congress to do their jobs.

 

[skinsdad62]

Find me a non brietbart or other right leaning publication that supports Trumps agenda??

At the end of the day Trump is punishing 800K+ Americans to try and force an agenda that at BEST a little under half the country supports.

Well there you have it. Polls suck but I won’t buy crap from the MSM where 95% of the stories or anti Trump or vice versa

 

[skinsdad62]

Its the principle. If you didnt think your child should have a barbie doll and your son said Im not going to clean my room until you buy it for me. Are you going to buy him the doll knowing that next time he wants something you are philosophically against, he will likely just up the anti and decide he wont shower until you take him to buy a sun dress and 6 inch heels??

Yes i used an extreme that I know would be against your principles on purpose to show you just the type of situation Trump has tried to put the congress in. He has taken federal workers hostage. We asa country do not negotiate with hostage takers.

Well if you can use that analogy then why cant I bust out why don’t you let any Tom, dick and Harry to go through your unlocked door , squat on your furniture , and demand you take care of them at your cost and hope you don’t have anyone intending malice because you only have guns if the govt let’s you

 

[Toadman005]