Lebron was better than Curry the two years he won MVP, he was actually better one of those seasons. Means nothing.
Co-sign. Forgot about him.
Do 5's average the assists that Jokic does?
I mean at this point, we are all dug in with our opinions.
Hunted and cooked last night. -26. He was involved in nearly every action. My major issue isn’t with the player himself but I know it comes off this way. My issue is NBA media being lazy AF and leaning on these bull shit analytics because they don’t know the game.
You didn’t watch the game again did you. Why do you always feel so comfortable running your mouth when you don’t watch the games? You didn’t watch game 1 or you would know a box score doesn’t tell the tale of Embiid’s impact in Game 1. Everything they got was because he was double and triple teamed. He didn’t force anything. He made the winning plays out of double teams. The stat that tells the tale is his zero turnovers. I don’t ever remember an Embiid playoff game where he is the target of the defense having zero turnovers.
Also what does this have to do with comment about Jokic being an ass defender? I got ripped here for saying that. I said come playoff time he would be hunted and cooked and that’s exactly what’s happening. These analytics lie. The gap between Jokic and Embiid offensively (edge Joker) is nowhere near as vast as the gap that exists between Embiid > Joker defensively. Not even close. And that’s why the man should have been MVP.
People constantly use analytics to try and explain away this man’s defense
Good point. was a time it seemed Mobley was a lock and still think he might be the favorite but I could understand Barnes winning. Hell, Cade could, as well.
especially when those games come AFTER voting is completed.
Agreed. This is the end of the Jokic era. People in NBA media spent the better part of a year citing defensive analytics that didn't just make Joker look like he was competent defensively, they made him look like he was one of the top defenders in the league. They ignored him getting targeted and cooked last year in a sweep by the Suns. Well, now it's happening again in this series with the Warriors. Every action is being run to involve him because he can't defend and is a liability at that end of the floor. This will be the last year of this nonsense. NBA media is looking foolish because they never watched this guy play (4-5 games all year on national TV) and instead used the short cut in leaning on purely analytics.
another cool story
Unfortunately, this isn't the DPOY award. Defense does matter but if you are amazing offensively you can win this award. Jokic being only 27, he might not win another one but he will be in the running for years to come. They get Murray and MPJ that could actually help him bc the team wins increases.
In order for a guy to step into the stratosphere of being a 3 time MVP shouldn't that guy not be a liability in playoff basektball? These narratives change quickly and NBA media is getting killed in the public square for making a mess of all this stuff. It's not just MVP.
