Game Thread: Play-In games

[Mecca]

Good point. was a time it seemed Mobley was a lock and still think he might be the favorite but I could understand Barnes winning. Hell, Cade could, as well.

According to the Hoopshype poll, Mobley will win.

 

[Mecca]

Yep. If it didn't, old man Lebron probably wins.

That record landed his ass 3rd Team All NBA.........HARSH.

POLL RESULTS

1st Team

Luka Doncic (98.26 percent)
Devin Booker (84.35 percent)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (100 percent)
Joel Embiid (84.35 percent)
Nikola Jokic (94.78 percent)

2nd Team

Ja Morant (63.48 percent)
Stephen Curry (51.30 percent)
Jayson Tatum (77.39 percent)
Kevin Durant (56.52 percent)
Karl-Anthony Towns (36.52 percent)

3rd Team

Chris Paul (26.09 percent)
Trae Young (26.09 percent)
DeMar DeRozan (33.04 percent)
LeBron James (31.30 percent)
Rudy Gobert (11.30 percent

 

[Mecca]

Also what does this have to do with comment about Jokic being an ass defender? I got ripped here for saying that. I said come playoff time he would be hunted and cooked and that’s exactly what’s happening. These analytics lie. The gap between Jokic and Embiid offensively (edge Joker) is nowhere near as vast as the gap that exists between Embiid > Joker defensively. Not even close. And that’s why the man should have been MVP.

He's not a good defender.

He might not be total ass.

But, Good or Great?

Fuck no.

 

[Mecca]

Hunted and cooked last night. -26. He was involved in nearly every action. My major issue isn’t with the player himself but I know it comes off this way. My issue is NBA media being lazy AF and leaning on these bull shit analytics because they don’t know the game.

So, he's not a good defender.

I'm not sure why that disqualifies him from being MVP.

Should Embiid be DQ'd for not being an elite playmaker?

My guy, we suffer from the same affliction.

We are judging these guys by traditional standards.

When I think prototypical center, I think Embiid.

But, the game has evolved.

 

[Shanemansj13]

That record landed his ass 3rd Team All NBA.........HARSH.

POLL RESULTS

1st Team

Luka Doncic (98.26 percent)
Devin Booker (84.35 percent)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (100 percent)
Joel Embiid (84.35 percent)
Nikola Jokic (94.78 percent)

2nd Team

Ja Morant (63.48 percent)
Stephen Curry (51.30 percent)
Jayson Tatum (77.39 percent)
Kevin Durant (56.52 percent)
Karl-Anthony Towns (36.52 percent)

3rd Team

Chris Paul (26.09 percent)
Trae Young (26.09 percent)
DeMar DeRozan (33.04 percent)
LeBron James (31.30 percent)
Rudy Gobert (11.30 percent

I would replace Tatum with Lebron. Tatum has been great over the 2nd half of the season but he started off not so hot. Low FG %'s. I would also replace Curry with DeRozan.

 

[trojanfan12]

So, he's not a good defender.

I'm not sure why that disqualifies him from being MVP.

Should Embiid be DQ'd for not being an elite playmaker?

My guy, we suffer from the same affliction.

We are judging these guys by traditional standards.

When I think prototypical center, I think Embiid.

But, the game has evolved.

The biggest problem is that these are not objective awards, so bias plays a role. They are voted on awards and no matter who is voting, their bias comes in to play.

If the media votes a lot of them are influenced by how "media friendly" a guy is. Fans tend to vote for the player who plays for their team or for the player they like if a player from their team isn't a choice. Players will vote for their friends.

Heck, some guys get voted against just because folks are tired of them. I mean, I think most of us agree that Lebron should have won about twice as many as he actually has.

 

[Mecca]

I would replace Tatum with Lebron. Tatum has been great over the 2nd half of the season but he started off not so hot. Low FG %'s. I would also replace Curry with DeRozan.

Let's be honest here.

Durant only played 55 games.

Derozan, Lebron, Tatum have similar, or better, stats and have played more.

But, nobody will ever suggest dropping him lower.

Not even me.

 

[msgkings322]

That record landed his ass 3rd Team All NBA.........HARSH.

POLL RESULTS

1st Team

Luka Doncic (98.26 percent)
Devin Booker (84.35 percent)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (100 percent)
Joel Embiid (84.35 percent)
Nikola Jokic (94.78 percent)

2nd Team

Ja Morant (63.48 percent)
Stephen Curry (51.30 percent)
Jayson Tatum (77.39 percent)
Kevin Durant (56.52 percent)
Karl-Anthony Towns (36.52 percent)

3rd Team

Chris Paul (26.09 percent)
Trae Young (26.09 percent)
DeMar DeRozan (33.04 percent)
LeBron James (31.30 percent)
Rudy Gobert (11.30 percent

Hey look @fightinfunbags they did the right thing with Embiid here

But are we ok with Towns on the 2nd team? Seems high.

 

[msgkings322]

That record landed his ass 3rd Team All NBA.........HARSH.

POLL RESULTS

1st Team

Luka Doncic (98.26 percent)
Devin Booker (84.35 percent)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (100 percent)
Joel Embiid (84.35 percent)
Nikola Jokic (94.78 percent)

2nd Team

Ja Morant (63.48 percent)
Stephen Curry (51.30 percent)
Jayson Tatum (77.39 percent)
Kevin Durant (56.52 percent)
Karl-Anthony Towns (36.52 percent)

3rd Team

Chris Paul (26.09 percent)
Trae Young (26.09 percent)
DeMar DeRozan (33.04 percent)
LeBron James (31.30 percent)
Rudy Gobert (11.30 percent

Also, 4 of the 5 1st teamers are foreign. But yeah the league was so much better 30 years ago

 

[Mecca]

Hey look @fightinfunbags they did the right thing with Embiid here

But are we ok with Towns on the 2nd team? Seems high.

I would have gone Bam.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Hey look @fightinfunbags they did the right thing with Embiid here

But are we ok with Towns on the 2nd team? Seems high.

Is this legit? Doesn’t match up with leaked votes.

 

[msgkings322]

Is this legit? Doesn’t match up with leaked votes.

You calling it fake news? Google it...

 

[fightinfunbags]

You calling it fake news? Google it...

Just did. I’m not seeing anything

 

[tlance]

Hey look @fightinfunbags they did the right thing with Embiid here

But are we ok with Towns on the 2nd team? Seems high.

Are we okay with Gobert on the 3rd team?

As the 4th center in a league more and more dominated by perimeter players?

I am not okay with that.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Are we okay with Gobert on the 3rd team?

As the 4th center in a league more and more dominated by perimeter players?

I am not okay with that.

If you’re gonna be a one way guy, he’s the wrong end of the floor to be a one way guy. I’m predicting a similar circumstance with Jokic going forward. It will be the fatigue of the public when the accolades don’t match with playoff results. Gobert has been less than Jokic in that regard.

 

[tlance]

If you’re gonna be a one way guy, he’s the wrong end of the floor to be a one way guy. I’m predicting a similar circumstance with Jokic going forward. It will be the fatigue of the public when the accolades don’t match with playoff results. Gobert has been less than Jokic in that regard.

I like that they ignored positions to give both Jokic and Embiid 1st team.

That was the right thing to do.

But now, further ignore positions and get Gobert off the list for a more deserving perimeter player.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I like that they ignored positions to give both Jokic and Embiid 1st team.

That was the right thing to do.

But now, further ignore positions and get Gobert off the list for a more deserving perimeter player.

Where is this All NBA team? I can’t find it anywhere on the internet. I don’t think it’s been released yet.

 

[shopson67]

That record landed his ass 3rd Team All NBA.........HARSH.

POLL RESULTS

1st Team

Luka Doncic (98.26 percent)
Devin Booker (84.35 percent)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (100 percent)
Joel Embiid (84.35 percent)
Nikola Jokic (94.78 percent)

2nd Team

Ja Morant (63.48 percent)
Stephen Curry (51.30 percent)
Jayson Tatum (77.39 percent)
Kevin Durant (56.52 percent)
Karl-Anthony Towns (36.52 percent)

3rd Team

Chris Paul (26.09 percent)
Trae Young (26.09 percent)
DeMar DeRozan (33.04 percent)
LeBron James (31.30 percent)
Rudy Gobert (11.30 percent

Still hate the lack of structure on these. Should at least be 2G, 2F, 1C per team.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Still hate the lack of structure on these. Should at least be 2G, 2F, 1C per team.

Why? The game has become more positionless.

 

[Mecca]

Where is this All NBA team? I can’t find it anywhere on the internet. I don’t think it’s been released yet.

Unofficial poll of actual voters on hoopshype.

FYI: Embiid does not make a all defensive team. Neither does Draymond.

But, Vanfleet does...

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