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PFF Says Mahomes Is 6th Best QB In The NFL

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PFF Rankings: NFL Quarterback Rankings following Week 3 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

1. TOM BRADY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Brady is back atop the quarterback rankings after three strong weeks that have seen him rank second in big-time throw percentage at 7.4% while avoiding any turnover-worthy plays. Brady continues to make good decisions with the ball while throwing accurately to all levels of the field, and he’s off to a start that is more reminiscent of his elite 2015-17 stretch — one of the best in NFL history — rather than last season that saw him regress just a touch on a throw-for-throw basis.

2. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS
Coming into the season, we ranked Prescott as a third-tier quarterback, with the descriptor that a good situation (playmakers, offensive line, play-caller) can lead to top-10 production in any given year. That’s exactly what is happening in Dallas, as offensive coordinator Kellen Moore has opened up a play-action game that has seen Prescott go 30-for-37 for 409 yards and a passer rating of 137.5. He’s taken advantage of more favorable play-calling while also throwing the ball extremely well down the field, as his adjusted completion percentage of 68.8% on deep (20-plus-yard) passes ranks fifth in the league, and his overall adjusted completion percentage of 81.7% is first among quarterbacks with at least 50 attempts.

3. CARSON WENTZ, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Armed with the best weapons in the league on paper coming into the year, Wentz has not had the same supporting cast we expected to see. Injuries have depleted a deep receiving corps, though they showed flashes of big-play ability in Week 1. Wentz has been better than his stats would show, mostly due to four big-time throws falling incomplete compared to just 17 such instances for the rest of the NFL. Wentz ranks fifth in the league in big-time throw percentage, and he’s tied for third with a 92.9 grade on throws targeted 10 or more yards downfield.

4. RUSSELL WILSON, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
It’s another year of big plays from Wilson, who ranks fourth in big-time throw percentage (5.9%) and has avoided any turnover-worthy plays to this point. He’s been accurate to all levels, ranking seventh at avoiding negatives, and the only thing keeping him from being higher on the list is his ranking just 12th in positively graded throws and a poor showing at the intermediate (10-19-yard) level, where Wilson’s 55.0 grade is 10th-worst in the league. Overall, it’s a fantastic start for Wilson, who has avoided the randomly poor decision-making that has littered his tape through the years while still showing off the ability to get the ball down the field efficiently.

5. DESHAUN WATSON, HOUSTON TEXANS
It’s been all about big plays for Watson, who is tied with Brady for second in big-time throw percentage at 7.4%. We’ve seen a few spectacular plays, including a near-comeback in Week 1 against the New Orleans Saints and a few gems this week against the Los Angeles Chargers, but Watson is inviting too much pressure and ranks just 22nd at avoiding negatively graded throws. Watson’s big-play ability has been the story of his young career, but he is still working to find the balance between avoiding pressure and adding more value in the short game.

6. PATRICK MAHOMES, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
The Chiefs’ offense has picked right up where they left off last year, and Mahomes continues to play at a high level despite a dip in a couple of key numbers. He still has the big-time throws, evidenced by his league-leading 8.0 big-time throw percentage, but after ranking second at avoiding negatively graded throws last season, Mahomes ranks just 19th in the same statistic this season. He also has two turnover-worthy plays on fumbles that won’t show up in the gaudy, league-leading 134.9 passer rating, but for Chiefs fans, they should be encouraged that there’s still room to improve as the year progresses
 

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hard to argue with the GOAT. he has no business being behind prescott or watson tho. wtf? and wentz?

this list is all fucked up sans brady, wilson, and mahomes.
 

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We should all take a moment and laugh at PFF
 

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TBF, it's mostly trollers like Skip Bayless trying to make this into a Brady versus Mahomes argument
I'd be okay with some sort of computer formula putting him around #3. I think is QBR is #2 and his DVOA is #2 with Dak having higher metrics due to efficiency.

If your formula has him at #6 then you're giving too much credit to the WRs.
 

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I'd be okay with some sort of computer formula putting him around #3. I think is QBR is #2 and his DVOA is #2 with Dak having higher metrics due to efficiency.

If your formula has him at #6 then you're giving too much credit to the WRs.
Pretty real possibility the Ravens and Jags have already given up their season high.

The Dolphins are one of the 5 worst teams on both offensive and defensive DVOA to start the season through 3 games going back to whenever the DVOA database starts (I think the 1980's?)

The Jets are starting Luke Falk at QB.

The Steelers have been a joke offensively with or without Ben this year.

Not really surprised Brady was not tested.
 

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PFF Rankings: NFL Quarterback Rankings following Week 3 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

1. TOM BRADY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Brady is back atop the quarterback rankings after three strong weeks that have seen him rank second in big-time throw percentage at 7.4% while avoiding any turnover-worthy plays. Brady continues to make good decisions with the ball while throwing accurately to all levels of the field, and he’s off to a start that is more reminiscent of his elite 2015-17 stretch — one of the best in NFL history — rather than last season that saw him regress just a touch on a throw-for-throw basis.

2. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS
Coming into the season, we ranked Prescott as a third-tier quarterback, with the descriptor that a good situation (playmakers, offensive line, play-caller) can lead to top-10 production in any given year. That’s exactly what is happening in Dallas, as offensive coordinator Kellen Moore has opened up a play-action game that has seen Prescott go 30-for-37 for 409 yards and a passer rating of 137.5. He’s taken advantage of more favorable play-calling while also throwing the ball extremely well down the field, as his adjusted completion percentage of 68.8% on deep (20-plus-yard) passes ranks fifth in the league, and his overall adjusted completion percentage of 81.7% is first among quarterbacks with at least 50 attempts.

3. CARSON WENTZ, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Armed with the best weapons in the league on paper coming into the year, Wentz has not had the same supporting cast we expected to see. Injuries have depleted a deep receiving corps, though they showed flashes of big-play ability in Week 1. Wentz has been better than his stats would show, mostly due to four big-time throws falling incomplete compared to just 17 such instances for the rest of the NFL. Wentz ranks fifth in the league in big-time throw percentage, and he’s tied for third with a 92.9 grade on throws targeted 10 or more yards downfield.

4. RUSSELL WILSON, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
It’s another year of big plays from Wilson, who ranks fourth in big-time throw percentage (5.9%) and has avoided any turnover-worthy plays to this point. He’s been accurate to all levels, ranking seventh at avoiding negatives, and the only thing keeping him from being higher on the list is his ranking just 12th in positively graded throws and a poor showing at the intermediate (10-19-yard) level, where Wilson’s 55.0 grade is 10th-worst in the league. Overall, it’s a fantastic start for Wilson, who has avoided the randomly poor decision-making that has littered his tape through the years while still showing off the ability to get the ball down the field efficiently.

5. DESHAUN WATSON, HOUSTON TEXANS
It’s been all about big plays for Watson, who is tied with Brady for second in big-time throw percentage at 7.4%. We’ve seen a few spectacular plays, including a near-comeback in Week 1 against the New Orleans Saints and a few gems this week against the Los Angeles Chargers, but Watson is inviting too much pressure and ranks just 22nd at avoiding negatively graded throws. Watson’s big-play ability has been the story of his young career, but he is still working to find the balance between avoiding pressure and adding more value in the short game.

6. PATRICK MAHOMES, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
The Chiefs’ offense has picked right up where they left off last year, and Mahomes continues to play at a high level despite a dip in a couple of key numbers. He still has the big-time throws, evidenced by his league-leading 8.0 big-time throw percentage, but after ranking second at avoiding negatively graded throws last season, Mahomes ranks just 19th in the same statistic this season. He also has two turnover-worthy plays on fumbles that won’t show up in the gaudy, league-leading 134.9 passer rating, but for Chiefs fans, they should be encouraged that there’s still room to improve as the year progresses
Number 8 Minshew looks good for a 6th round pick.
 

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Number 8 Minshew looks good for a 6th round pick.
He has had a solid start. If he keeps it up the Jags will be an actual problem in the AFC. That would be a scary team if Minshew is actually legitimately good. Probably why the team is stubbornly not trading Ramsey just yet.
 

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He has had a solid start. If he keeps it up the Jags will be an actual problem in the AFC. That would be a scary team if Minshew is actually legitimately good.

more importantly, he has a bad ass stache

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Ridiculous list. Can’t believe Dak is above Wentz.
 

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Not that PFF is my absolute source for everything, (or anything) but.....

"Another quarterback with poor interception luck thus far, Garoppolo has two turnover-worthy plays and four picks"

At least they acknowledge that stuff like this isn't equal....as some people might believe. Despite the 1 TD/2 Int day against Pittsburgh, Garoppolo's performance against the Steelers was one of his best. Look forward to watching this guy grow more and more comfortable.
 

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Okay, I see where PFF is messing up. They have the Chiefs oline ranked 13th. They aren't giving Mahomes credit for running backwards and throwing off his back foot instead of getting sacked.
 

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hard to argue with the GOAT. he has no business being behind prescott or watson tho. wtf? and wentz?

this list is all fucked up sans brady, wilson, and mahomes.
That doesn't make any sense. It isn't a projected ranking it's a ranking based on how they are playing so far through 3 games, right? Prescott is playing out of his mind through 3 games so of course he will be ranked highly at this point. How they split hairs to rank them, who knows. I'm not a big fan in the first place as the bias they think they avoid is exactly what they re-enforce as their "unbiased" evaluators go through every player on every play. They don't even know what the sideline calls are so to assign credit or blame as they do is as silly as using any other stat.
 

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That doesn't make any sense. It isn't a projected ranking it's a ranking based on how they are playing so far through 3 games, right? Prescott is playing out of his mind through 3 games so of course he will be ranked highly at this point. How they split hairs to rank them, who knows. I'm not a big fan in the first place as the bias they think they avoid is exactly what they re-enforce as their "unbiased" evaluators go through every player on every play. They don't even know what the sideline calls are so to assign credit or blame as they do is as silly as using any other stat.
how is mahomes statistically behind wentz?
 

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He has had a solid start. If he keeps it up the Jags will be an actual problem in the AFC. That would be a scary team if Minshew is actually legitimately good. Probably why the team is stubbornly not trading Ramsey just yet.
I agree and I think the Jags is a good place for Minshew.
 
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