Pats accused of cheating again

[FlyerFinFan]

Harold you know haters are gonna hate, they have nothing to hang their hat on. I always admired good teams and never used cheating as an excuse why they won. These are clones that worry about whats going on in the neighbors house than their own.

Of course you haven't as the pats are the only ones who've been caught cheating to this magnitude. Talk about blind you guys are the only ones who can't see through it. Obviously your Owner is a greedy prick too or he would have turfed his coach after the embarrassment. I should have known better to even try to talk intelligently with a pats fan as cheating is obviously ok with them.... I'd love to see this just end but obviously it never will because everyone is still upset about it.

 

[Malibu]

Harold you know haters are gonna hate, they have nothing to hang their hat on. I always admired good teams and never used cheating as an excuse why they won. These are clones that worry about whats going on in the neighbors house than their own.

Being a Broncos fan I can admitt they violated the salary cap during there Superbowls. Why cant you grow a pair and admitt the Patriots cheated? Of course Pats fans want to forget. Truth hurts. Just saying.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Spygate = nonsense

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Spygate = nonsense

Ancient history, amazing that some just won't let it go. It's like they need a confession from any Pat fan they come across. Lord knows I'm far from a Pats fan, I like to think Brady is slipping and such, but this ancient history of spy gate should just be viewed as water under the bridge and feel free to believe what you will, but damn...let's talk about the here and now.

 

[SteelersPride]

this originial thread was NOT over spygate, i dont remember what it was, but obviously yahoo removed the article

 

[ram29jackson]

This spy gate thing happen so long ago, isn't it about time to move on to more current events?

the problem is a lot of current events are shaped by that moment in history. Why are all/most the Super Bowls the last 12 years closer now except for last year ? How is it possible that two brothers coach 2 teams to conference championships 2 years in a row and end up playing each other in a Super Bowl ? and then when the game looks out of hand for SF who was favored or expected to cover that the power goes out at an event that is supposed to be planned and trouble shot for Ad infinitum .

how are all these teams that never sniffed a championship making it to the big game one after the other.
Cards,Seahawks, Panthers,Saints, Bears,Bucs. Its not that those teams aren't good and deserving of wins. The league takes advantage of those teams success and manipulates officiating to make those teams successful to generate interest and revenue for the league and those markets.

it wasn't Belichick's idea to do it, it was the league's idea, that's why they burned the tapes.

Seattle is a good team but lets see if they get all the breaks they got last year. The Ravens and Seattles defense lead or very near the top in penalties the year they went to the super bowl. So in order to be successful you have to be the team disregarding the rules the most ?

as to why last years game was a blowout , I don't know ? might have to think a while to find a narrative for that one

 

[WizardHawk]

Right, so in the infinite wisdom of the jackson, the NFL is just a wealthier version of the WWE. It's all scripted and predisposed.

 

[HammerDown]

Ancient history, amazing that some just won't let it go. It's like they need a confession from any Pat fan they come across. Lord knows I'm far from a Pats fan, I like to think Brady is slipping and such, but this ancient history of spy gate should just be viewed as water under the bridge and feel free to believe what you will, but damn...let's talk about the here and now.

This was raised again recently by a player with legitimate concerns about practicing against the Patriots. I would say it was a non-issue if the Pats had won anything since being caught but they haven't, thus validating those who say there should be an asterisk next to the Super Bowl wins. The undeniable fact is the Patriots cheated and got caught and haven't won since.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Right, so in the infinite wisdom of the jackson, the NFL is just a wealthier version of the WWE. It's all scripted and predisposed.

I think Jackson is suffering from alzheimer.

 

[HammerDown]

Harold you know haters are gonna hate, they have nothing to hang their hat on. I always admired good teams and never used cheating as an excuse why they won. These are clones that worry about whats going on in the neighbors house than their own.

Great! Then all your opponents this season will cheat like you did and when you complain about it, we'll roll with "haters gonna hate."

Come on, Sonny. You're better than that.

 

[SteelersPride]

hammer where did u even dig this up from,

 

[ram29jackson]

Right, so in the infinite wisdom of the jackson, the NFL is just a wealthier version of the WWE. It's all scripted and predisposed.

scripted and manipulated are two different things

 

[SteelersPride]

what other teams cheated sonny

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Right, so in the infinite wisdom of the jackson, the NFL is just a wealthier version of the WWE. It's all scripted and predisposed.

Wiz quote my last post so Ram can see it.

 

[HammerDown]

hammer where did u even dig this up from,

Wut?

 

[SteelersPride]

werent you the one who bumped this thread with the new pats article

 

[HammerDown]

werent you the one who bumped this thread with the new pats article

Yeah, on mobile right now and can't check. Did I not link to the story? I saw it on twitter.

 

[ram29jackson]

just some food for thought

. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

 

[ram29jackson]

interesting

Robert Kraft and John Mara are two of the most business savvy and highly respected NFL owners. Kraft is in charge of the NFL TV broadcast committee and also leads all television negotiations for the NFL. Kraft also is on the board of directors for Viacom, the parent company of CBS, one of NFL's broadcasters. This past Spring, Robert Kraft negotiated a record TV deal for the NFL which will result in $24 Billion in revenue with CBS, FOX, ESPN and NBC. Kraft and Mara also brought both parties to the table and led all negotiations in ending the lockout.

Lastly, Robert Kraft and Las Vegas casino mogul Steve Wynn plan on opening a casino resort across the street from Gillette Stadium. Is it magic that these two owners who have done so much for the league over the last 20 years magically found themselves playing each other in the Super Bowl? Not to mention all of the nostalgic history between Belichik and Coughlin being former Giants coaches. Sometimes the NFL even mocks you by telling you this as they ran a 4 minute piece on the NFL pre-game show before the Super Bowl telling you all these things.

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank was interviewed saying "It is predetermined that these two teams would be here, I wish my team was selected to be in the Super Bowl one day, but these two gentlemen deserve it". And the Giants posted themselves as victors before the game, the NFL claimed it was "an overzealous employee".

 

[WizardHawk]

I think Jackson is suffering from alzheimer.

Well he does appear to be missing a cog or two I'll grant you that.