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There are four more weeks in the season and while the Patriots have the most brutal schedule, nothing is guaranteed. Then again, the Giants and Raiders could easily win one or two and the Patriots could be sitting at #1 when the dust clears.

Cleveland has a bunch of picks. An extra third from the Bills, and extra two extra sixths from the Vikings and Bears. Problem with them is that they will all be at the end of the rounds. So they might be willingto give up their #8 and both third round picks to jump to the top and grab Shedeur Sanders. That would move the Patriots to #8 but give them 4 picks in the third round. Feast or Famine?

How would you feel about keeping#1 and taking CB/WR Travis Hunter? Who just might be a generational football player.
I would hate keeping #1 and taking Travis Hunter for a few reasons.

1. Playing both ways in college is not the same as doing it in the Pros so I do not see that happening.

2. We have a number one CB already so I would not want to take a CB that high.

3. I do not see him as a legit #1 in the NFL, The Buffs played a real easy schedule and he looked great among bad teams.

4. You can not win in the NFL if you cannot win in the trenches. The ideal situation would be trade down not past eight or nine. The get best LT, DT and Edge players. After that I would look to safety then a legit number two CB.

It's not pretty and the experts will be losing their minds, " OMG New England did not get a WR". The WR Corps is developing and there is a legit chance with a full offseason Polk could improve.

We also have FA to address WR and as I stated I would target a RT and C in FA
 

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There are four more weeks in the season and while the Patriots have the most brutal schedule, nothing is guaranteed. Then again, the Giants and Raiders could easily win one or two and the Patriots could be sitting at #1 when the dust clears.

Cleveland has a bunch of picks. An extra third from the Bills, and extra two extra sixths from the Vikings and Bears. Problem with them is that they will all be at the end of the rounds. So they might be willingto give up their #8 and both third round picks to jump to the top and grab Shedeur Sanders. That would move the Patriots to #8 but give them 4 picks in the third round. Feast or Famine?
If they end up with #1, I would say trade back for someones 1st this year and 1st next year with sweeteners. 2nd round pick next year or first in '27 as well? Why stock up on multiple late round picks in a weak draft when you know the rebuild is a multi year process?
How would you feel about keeping#1 and taking CB/WR Travis Hunter? Who just might be a generational football player.
No. Trade back. But that depends on FA and how they strengthen the team before the draft.
 

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I would hate keeping #1 and taking Travis Hunter for a few reasons.

1. Playing both ways in college is not the same as doing it in the Pros so I do not see that happening.

2. We have a number one CB already so I would not want to take a CB that high.

3. I do not see him as a legit #1 in the NFL, The Buffs played a real easy schedule and he looked great among bad teams.

4. You can not win in the NFL if you cannot win in the trenches. The ideal situation would be trade down not past eight or nine. The get best LT, DT and Edge players. After that I would look to safety then a legit number two CB.

It's not pretty and the experts will be losing their minds, " OMG New England did not get a WR". The WR Corps is developing and there is a legit chance with a full offseason Polk could improve.

We also have FA to address WR and as I stated I would target a RT and C in FA
We picked up a good center this year and we have strange, who is a capable center.
We need to get strange on the field! (that sounds funny)
 

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We picked up a good center this year and we have strange, who is a capable center.
We need to get strange on the field! (that sounds funny)
Not sure what capable means?? And Strange IMO is suited for OG
 

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Not sure what capable means?? And Strange IMO is suited for OG
With discussions about a potential position change for Strange circling this year, one of New England's coaches may have tipped their hand on the situation.
"For right now, we're just kinda working him at center because it's a new progression for him," offensive line coach Scott Peters said about Strange. "Absolutely, he'll play both. But the thought was to get a ball into his hands and see how he looks."


Some evaluators pegged Strange as a likely NFL center ahead of the 2021 draft. And though the 26-year-old showed major strides at guard before injuring his knee, Strange could see snaps at center after he’s cleared to resume practicing.

“Yeah, that was always a possibility when we drafted Cole,” Mayo said when asked about trying Strange at center. “He did have that flex to be able to go in there and snap.
 

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It's hard to have empathy for people making millions to play a game, but would you rather have $96 or $100 ?

$960? or $1k?

When you take in the rest of the taxes, would you rather have $84.50 or $92.40 on every hundred after federal taxes?

A $10 mil/year NFL Contract will leave $6.3 after federal taxes by simply taking off the max 37%
Mass takes 15.5 % of that leaving $5.323 mil.
TN takes less than half of that at 7.6% leaving $5.8212 mil.

That's a half a million dollars. Per year. Anybody leaving a half a million bucks on the table is a fool.

The Pats are at a disadvantage to sign players for the same money, they need to pay more to cover the higher cost of living.
Yes, heat, fuel, taxes, etc just like the non millionaires have to account for.

And this is exactly why the Patriots will NOT open their books wallets up...
 

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With discussions about a potential position change for Strange circling this year, one of New England's coaches may have tipped their hand on the situation.
"For right now, we're just kinda working him at center because it's a new progression for him," offensive line coach Scott Peters said about Strange. "Absolutely, he'll play both. But the thought was to get a ball into his hands and see how he looks."


Some evaluators pegged Strange as a likely NFL center ahead of the 2021 draft. And though the 26-year-old showed major strides at guard before injuring his knee, Strange could see snaps at center after he’s cleared to resume practicing.

“Yeah, that was always a possibility when we drafted Cole,” Mayo said when asked about trying Strange at center. “He did have that flex to be able to go in there and snap.
Yeah I don't know about comments made in the heat of the moment. Would you rather have a center that played center all through college or a guy guy you gotta train? I say get a true center and LT if Strange comes back at LG that may be the answer to the problem
 

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If the Patriots stay at #3, I'd prefer that they get Banks or Campbell and not chance letting either of them go elsewhere. Of course, it all depends on what they do the month before the draft. I do believe that the smart thing to do would be to draft either of them even if hey sign a veteran LT before the draft. Then again, is Wolfe more interested in looking as good as his father or making the Patriots good?
 

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Yeah I don't know about comments made in the heat of the moment. Would you rather have a center that played center all through college or a guy guy you gotta train? I say get a true center and LT if Strange comes back at LG that may be the answer to the problem
I, for one, thought the picked Strange as Andrews replacement.
He did play center in college and Belichick had him play center at Shrine game......
 

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I, for one, thought the picked Strange as Andrews replacement.
He did play center in college and Belichick had him play center at Shrine game......
I do not remember him being picked as a center I specifically remember him being picked as a guard and playing guard in college. As I stated before he is taller than what the normal NFL Center is and it did not appear the Pats had any inclination to play him at center. Again. for me, draft a LT put Strange back at LG then draft a center, the kids from Bama and UGA both look good and could fall to us in round three. I won't banter back and forth on this, it's futile.
 

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If the Patriots stay at #3, I'd prefer that they get Banks or Campbell and not chance letting either of them go elsewhere. Of course, it all depends on what they do the month before the draft. I do believe that the smart thing to do would be to draft either of them even if hey sign a veteran LT before the draft. Then again, is Wolfe more interested in looking as good as his father or making the Patriots good?
I just do not agree with a FA LT, I don't see as much value in it.
 

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I just do not agree with a FA LT, I don't see as much value in it.
You'd have to be very lucky to get good value......
And does being a college LT guarantee that he will be an All-Pro LT in the NFL???

Nothing in an NFL draft pick is a guarantee. If you sign a shit ball player in free agency, you at least know he's a shit ball. If you sign a shit ball and "THINK" he's the next best thing to sliced bread, then you have a problem.

The Patriots passed on ALT and he was outstanding last night against the Chiefs. Does anyone remember who else were the top LTs in the last draft?? (Don't look them up...that's cheating on yourself) Are they starting??

A 25, 26, 27 year old offensive lineman who started elsewhere and is a FA, is a pretty good bet to be better than Vedarian Lowe or anyone else who's been stuck on the NEP left side this season. Draft an LT to learn and practice behind him and maybe, just maybe you have a future LT and a trade chip.
 

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And does being a college LT guarantee that he will be an All-Pro LT in the NFL???

Nothing in an NFL draft pick is a guarantee. If you sign a shit ball player in free agency, you at least know he's a shit ball. If you sign a shit ball and "THINK" he's the next best thing to sliced bread, then you have a problem.

The Patriots passed on ALT and he was outstanding last night against the Chiefs. Does anyone remember who else were the top LTs in the last draft?? (Don't look them up...that's cheating on yourself) Are they starting??

A 25, 26, 27 year old offensive lineman who started elsewhere and is a FA, is a pretty good bet to be better than Vedarian Lowe or anyone else who's been stuck on the NEP left side this season. Draft an LT to learn and practice behind him and maybe, just maybe you have a future LT and a trade chip.
Did anyone say anything about being an All Pro LT?
 

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Did anyone say anything about being an All Pro LT?
ME!!!

If you take everything literally, you can argue until death.

I think you understood my point..........you can't guarantee that a rookie LT is the answer to the LT problem. A FA may mot be either, but he at last has played against the iron and you have film and maybe some experience against him. Yo have more info to work with than you do a college kid.

Fire back........
 
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