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Toronto has bid for the Olympics in the past and failed so a Toronto councilman is floating the idea of a multi national host.

How likely is Buffalo-Toronto Olympics?

BUFFALO, NY (WIVB) - Many WNY'ers are excited about the possibly of a joint Toronto-Buffalo Olympics in 2024, spurred by a Toronto councilman's comments . Could it happen? Do you want it to happen? We decided to take a look at the history of all the previous times a US or Canadian city has hosted the games.

Cities from the United States have been the host cities for four Summer Olympics and four Winter Olympics since the first Olympic games of modern history.

St. Louis hosted the 1904 Summer Games. Los Angeles hosted the Summer Games in both 1932 and 1984. Both times, it was the only city from across the globe to complete a bid to the International Olympic Committee so it was selected by default.

Leveraging corporate sponsors and many already-existing venues, the 1984 Los Angeles games are considered to be the most financially successful.

The most recent time a US city hosted the summer games was in 1996 when they were held in Atlanta. Toronto had bid to host that year also, but lost. The Atlanta games are said to have generated $10 million for the city and cost $1.8 billion.

In terms of the Winter Games, Lake Placid, NY hosted the games in both 1932 and 1980. They were the only city to bid to host the games in 1980. Chuck Mangione, from Rochester, NY, performed the official song of the 1980 games, "Give It All You Got", at the closing ceremonies.

Squaw Valley, CA and St. Lake City also hosted the Winter Games in 1960 and 2002, respectively.

Canada has only hosted the Summer Games once, in Montreal in 1976.

Two Canadian cities have hosted the Winter Games; Calgary in 1988 and Vancouver in 2010.


History of US & Canadian Olympics | WIVB.com

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BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - The eyes of the world are on London right now. But could Toronto land the Olympic games one day with the help of Buffalo?

The idea may sound farfetched, but not to one Toronto City Councilman. James Pasternak proposes that "...a great Lakes Olympics...not only makes sense xerographically, but financially as well."

Mayor Byron Brown said, "Loved hearing it. Loved the talk, the buzz that's going around it so quickly, so early."

Just the thought of it is enough to spark the imagination at least.

Buffalo resident Nathan Villar said, "America and Canada coming together would be amazing, something like that to happen, yeah."

Logistics may be a major problem though, trying to coordinate the Olympic games in cities of two different countries, so many miles apart.

Marlene Merzacco opined, "I love Buffalo. I'm here all my life, but I can't envision the logistics of the event 90 miles apart."

But Buffalo sharing in the Olympic dream with Toronto is at the very least flattering to Visit Buffalo Niagara.

Communications Manager Peter Burakowski said, "We've longed look for Toronto to be partners for us. It's great to have them looking the same way towards us."

In the early 1990s, Buffalo played host to the World University Games. And while some vendors took a loss, the games had some long-term benefits to our region.

Deputy Erie County Executive Rich Tobe said, "The World University Games, we hoped, would create Buffalo as a tourism destination for amateur athletics, and it has."

Burakowski added, "We used many of the facilities that came out of the World University Games, so the Flickinger Center is a hotbed for swimming. You see track and field events at U.B. Many of the facilities that came to be because of the World University Games still are paying off today."

Tobe says co-hosting a summer Olympics would be a daunting task, but says we should be open to least discussing the idea with Toronto, if invited to do so.


Could Buffalo & Toronto share Olympics? | WIVB.com
 

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Interesting idea, but I imagine a nightmare getting from event to event. It's like two hours to TO from Buffalo, isn't it?
 

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Interesting idea, but I imagine a nightmare getting from event to event. It's like two hours to TO from Buffalo, isn't it?

About an hour and a half but 43 look at a lot of the venues in London, The rowing competition and some of the other events are miles away. Some of the events in Beijing were 4 to 5 hundred miles away so it wouldn't be that unusual. They could use the trains too and that would be faster.

It would be an interesting concept.
 

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My biggest concern in a joint bid like this would be security - The Olympics already brings out the nutjobs and now you have to worry about threats not only in one city, but two (and in different countries). The flow of traffic between Canada and the US would be a nightmare.
 

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diving can be held at niagara falls?

:noidea:
 

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Interesting idea, but I imagine a nightmare getting from event to event. It's like two hours to TO from Buffalo, isn't it?

close to 2 hours between vancouver and whistler and only 1 road to and from ... that worked

/isnt there a very good commuter train infrastructure already in place ?
 

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My biggest concern in a joint bid like this would be security - The Olympics already brings out the nutjobs and now you have to worry about threats not only in one city, but two (and in different countries). The flow of traffic between Canada and the US would be a nightmare.

This would be a serious problem unless they changed something like using more trains and maybe planes. Shit on most weekends the wait at the bridges can range from 30 minutes to two hours.

I see your point about security as well. It is a cool idea but because I don't think it's ever been done before but would require a LOT of preparations.
 

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My biggest concern in a joint bid like this would be security - The Olympics already brings out the nutjobs and now you have to worry about threats not only in one city, but two (and in different countries). The flow of traffic between Canada and the US would be a nightmare.

Cool idea, but imagine some of the border issues would be difficult.

I don't think the distance is THAT big of a deal b/c during the Olympics there are frequently venues that are an hour or more apart. For example, all the soccer matches for the London games are all over, some as far away as Scotland. It's actually easier to control traffic, crowds, etc. when you have them more spread out at different venues and locations than jammed in close proximity in a city.
 

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close to 2 hours between vancouver and whistler and only 1 road to and from ... that worked

/isnt there a very good commuter train infrastructure already in place ?

Yes, Amtrak runs two or three times a day from Toronto to Buffalo then on to NYC. I'm sure they would probably need to run them every hour or so.
 

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close to 2 hours between vancouver and whistler and only 1 road to and from ... that worked

Yeah but how many of the events in the same discipline could be held in both places?

You could have sports like Soccer, Basketball, Volleyball, Gymnastics, etc in both Buffalo and TO. Gear, athletes, media, fans moving from place to place in a pretty traffic congested area as it is.

For Vancouver, the skiiing and bobsled events were in one place and one place only. Spectators could move back and forth if they wanted to, but Athletes/Media didn't have to.

I guess you could segment it by saying Basketball only in Buffalo and Soccer only in TO, but that kinda defeats the purpose of a "unified" games, IMO.
 

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Yeah but how many of the events in the same discipline could be held in both places?

You could have sports like Soccer, Basketball, Volleyball, Gymnastics, etc in both Buffalo and TO. Gear, athletes, media, fans moving from place to place in a pretty traffic congested area as it is.

For Vancouver, the skiiing and bobsled events were in one place and one place only. Spectators could move back and forth if they wanted to, but Athletes/Media didn't have to.

I guess you could segment it by saying Basketball only in Buffalo and Soccer only in TO, but that kinda defeats the purpose of a "unified" games, IMO.

I was just thinking, They could also have some events in Hamilton the arena there holds something like 17,000 right? I'm not sure how big the stadium is though.
 

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Yeah but how many of the events in the same discipline could be held in both places?

You could have sports like Soccer, Basketball, Volleyball, Gymnastics, etc in both Buffalo and TO. Gear, athletes, media, fans moving from place to place in a pretty traffic congested area as it is.

For Vancouver, the skiiing and bobsled events were in one place and one place only. Spectators could move back and forth if they wanted to, but Athletes/Media didn't have to.

I guess you could segment it by saying Basketball only in Buffalo and Soccer only in TO, but that kinda defeats the purpose of a "unified" games, IMO.

i dont think its any different than what theyve done in London like what others have mentioned ... ie soccer group stages were held in different cities with smaller stadiums (Group A was in Coventry or whatever and all those games were played there) when they move on to qf's they move to a different stadium so everyone is happy

/all contingent on both areas having the available infrastructure ... and no duplication of infrastructure

of course they would have to plan out what events have their main base where
 

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Border issues would make this never possible.
 

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It would be cool if ice fishing was a demonstration sport for this.
 

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It would be cool if ice fishing was a demonstration sport for this.

lol - If they did indeed land a successful bid, I want Gordon Lightfoot and "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" to be the official Olympics theme song...
 
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