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Arete Tzu

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It might not be blatant racism, but you don't need to drop derogatory remarks just to be racist.

Obviously, it could just be an oversight by the teacher. Although, I'd find it hard to believe someone with a degree in education would innocently miss how inappropriate it is to mix that subject into mathematics. It's kind of nonchalant, like, don't worry that the slave is picking cotton and getting beat, obviously that is talking about black slaves in the U.S. Which is pretty insensitive since chances are extremely high that students in Georgia will have a lineage that traces back to being slaves.

great point, not only being slaves, but being slave owners as well. The consciousness of Georgians is going to make them understand it that way, regardless of past forms of slavery. It just has no place in 3rd grade math.
 

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Are you suggesting that slavery, and math problems based on slave activity are mutually exclusive? Because according to the school program in question, they are not, thus the outrage.

Not at all. I'm suggesting that the parent is screwing up by focusing on the slavery questions being in math class rather than on teaching their child about slavery.

How do you have a conversation with your son or daughter about questions that are inappropriate without addressing the topic of the questions? What do you tell your child without teaching them about slavery?
 

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WHO SAID IT WAS OK,,,,all I said was it will never go away,learn to live with it,

only thing any of us can really do is teach our kids what's right and stay away from those who are racist,,,,,NOW DO WHAT YOU WANT NO ONE CAN STOP YOU

r*pe, murder, pedofiles will never go away either, should we jsut learn to live with them? or should we continue to hold them in contempt?

what boundaries did you mean?
 

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r*pe, murder, pedofiles will never go away either, should we jsut learn to live with them? or should we continue to hold them in contempt?

what boundaries did you mean?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Racism is a crime?
 

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It might not be blatant racism, but you don't need to drop derogatory remarks just to be racist.

Obviously, it could just be an oversight by the teacher. Although, I'd find it hard to believe someone with a degree in education would innocently miss how inappropriate it is to mix that subject into mathematics. It's kind of nonchalant, like, don't worry that the slave is picking cotton and getting beat, obviously that is talking about black slaves in the U.S. Which is pretty insensitive since chances are extremely high that students in Georgia will have a lineage that traces back to being slaves.

I'm wondering how much more you know about this specific incident than I do. What were they discussing in social studies at the time? Does the same teacher instruct both math and social studies? You're presenting this as if it is the only discussion of slavery the class had, and I'm wondering where you found that information.

The quote that teachers were working on cross-curricular activities suggests they were discussing slavery in multiple subjects.

I'm wondering what your list of banned books would be to make sure that social studies subjects don't get into English.

Is it wrong to discuss the economic issues of the Great Depression in older grades because economics is math and has no business in history?

What about the renaissance? I hope they don't talk about that Galileo guy because he was a scientist. That belongs in science class.
 

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the shit is everywhere,and yes they sleep with anyone the can most have no boundries and you know it as for them being racist hell there are just as many blacks that are racist as there are whites,,get off your fucking horse,I'm tired of your shit

Give an idiot enough rope and he WILL hang himself. Go play in traffic and die, you useless racist piece of shit.
 

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r*pe, murder, pedofiles will never go away either, should we jsut learn to live with them? or should we continue to hold them in contempt?

what boundaries did you mean?

are you and sayheykid brothers,,you are both assholes
 

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Give an idiot enough rope and he WILL hang himself. Go play in traffic and die, you useless racist piece of shit.

hello jackass,,,
 
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If they're discussing slavery in social studies with the same teacher, why not incorporate it into math as well?

Because in the above example, that's the stupidest shit a teacher could ever do to teach math. Mathematics application is supposed to show real world problem-solving techniques. Are you suggesting that slave owners calculated beatings a week, exact picking per slave, etc, is accurate social studies teachings with mathematics? The problems in question show even distribution of slave work, which is complete ignorance to the time period.
 
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This is unbelievable, really. The explanation of the district spokesperson is even more ridiculous. Claiming that the teachers were just trying to include social studies into math.... yeah, sure. Well, at least the lady actually acknowledged that the questions were inappropriate.

I'm not sure who is more dangerous, those who perpetuate the black slavery stereotype or those who would have ou believe those ideas do not still exist today.
 

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No boundaries? racially? I don't understand why I should set race boundaries when it comes to dating and sex.

I also fail to see how "every race has racists" makes being racist ok? Every group of people has pedophiles, is pedophilia ok? Every group has rapists, every group has murderers is killing ok? i don't get the logic.

You don't get it b/c it's not there. It's classic "well, it's everywhere so we can't do anything about it so therefore it's ok" thinking that kept the Jim Crow laws in effect, women without the vote, and homophobia alive and well.

Same shit, different toilet.
 

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The questions can definitely been seen as inappropriate, however, I don't see racism. At no point is race mentioned in any way.

THANK YOU! I was hoping someone would point that out so I didn't have to.
 

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Freaking Hilarious. It is fucked up... But then again... what do you expect of our educational system. Its run by brain dead tards , funded by government tards and is little more than brainwashing to be a good little sheeple than actually teaching anyone how to succeed in life. Here in Nevada you graduate if you do nothing more than manage to miss less that 25 school days.
 

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If they were learning about Frederick Douglass and his rise from slavery, i'm not sure why this is inappropriate. He was a slave. This isn't that controversial. He overcame all of this to become a success. If the context was stated correctly, there is nothing wrong here. If they didn't explain the context of Frederick's life, I can see a tiny bit of outrage. I can also see people wondering if the kids are too young to be learning about slavery. Still, that would make this inappropriate, not racist. I don't see any racism here.
 
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