OT: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2

[The Croz Man Cometh]

As for the other movies in the series, I remember 1 and 2 being OK, if a bit long, given that they were geared to the 10-15 age bracket.

3 was very meh until the ending where, for me, it nose-dived to terrible status. They spent the whole movie think SB is so evil and scary, then they meet him and it basically goes SB: "No Harry, I'm the good guy." HP: "Oh, he's the good guy, let's trust him." I understand that scene was better in the book, but it was very poorly done IMO and killed the whole thing for me.

4 was OK also, though I thought this introduced a plot element that was not really carried (in the movies at least) - the other wizard schools. Are we really to believe Voldemort only wanted to destroy Hogwarts/England? Why didn't they get help from the other schools?

5 was a total waste of time except for the very end (which, to my understanding is mostly what people said about the book). The whole thing with the woman taking over Hogwarts didn't mean much, and I thought the scene where SB dies was poorly done because you don't really know that he's dead until much later.

6 I don't remember too well honestly, so I won't say anything on that.

I'm late to the party, but when and how the Fuck did he die? I wondered where the hell he went for the rest of the series. I though Gary Oldman was too busy to do the rest of the movies.

 

[pixburgher66]

I'm late to the party, but when and how the Fuck did he die? I wondered where the hell he went for the rest of the series. I though Gary Oldman was too busy to do the rest of the movies.

That death ticked me off when I read it. I freaking LOVED Sirius. I remember reading it and literally yelling "HOW DOES A DRAPERY KILL SOMEONE?!"

 

[loki604]

That death ticked me off when I read it. I freaking LOVED Sirius. I remember reading it and literally yelling "HOW DOES A DRAPERY KILL SOMEONE?!"

I will never understand people's love of this character. He was such an idiot to me and couldn't control his emotions over anything. I cared about him because Harry did, but he wouldn't be in my top ten. I understand the tragedy of his character (and think he's well-written), but everyone seems to love him. and I don't get it.

 

[loki604]

i gotta say it was pretty good (the R/H kiss) and the giggle right after. I think there was no way they could make the H/G kiss as impactful after that one.

/stillaman

In the books, it could be argued that the first ever H/G kiss was the most epic of any in all the books.

 

[pixburgher66]

In the books, it could be argued that the first ever H/G kiss was the most epic of any in all the books.

^^THIS^^

And because of how they completely effed up that entire relationship as well as the kiss, I hate the 6th movie the most.

 

[ritari330]

I started re-reading the series and I'm midway through book 5. My pace has slowed down a lot, but I was reading about 100 pages a day for a week or so when I started. Also, I hate Umbridge

 

[loki604]

I started re-reading the series and I'm midway through book 5. My pace has slowed down a lot, but I was reading about 100 pages a day for a week or so when I started. Also, I hate Umbridge

Also re-reading the series (though I'm always in the middle of one them along with whatever new things I'm reading). On Prisoner of Azkaban now. The scene with Christmas dinner is hilarious because of the tension between Mcgonagall and Trelawney - makes their interaction in Order so poignant.

 

[pixburgher66]

I started re-reading the series and I'm midway through book 5. My pace has slowed down a lot, but I was reading about 100 pages a day for a week or so when I started. Also, I hate Umbridge

I don't think I've EVER hated a character like I hated her. And props to JKR for making me hate her so much. When she shows up in the 7th, at the end of the chapter when Mundungus says "Yeah, looked like a toad" I nearly yelled.

 

[pixburgher66]

Also re-reading the series (though I'm always in the middle of one them along with whatever new things I'm reading). On Prisoner of Azkaban now. The scene with Christmas dinner is hilarious because of the tension between Mcgonagall and Trelawney - makes their interaction in Order so poignant.

I'm about halfway through the PoA right now. So good...

 

[Comeds]

5 was a total waste of time except for the very end (which, to my understanding is mostly what people said about the book). The whole thing with the woman taking over Hogwarts didn't mean much, and I thought the scene where SB dies was poorly done because you don't really know that he's dead until much later.

I felt the same way (for the most part about the book). Except for the very beginning (death eaters) and the end. Harry stuck in protection and complaining the whole time, Ron and Hermoine bickering. Once they got to Hogwarts it got better but the damage was done. I thought it was a real struggle and the low part of the series. Well except for the Hermoine house elf liberation crap.

 

[ritari330]

Also hate Rita Skeeter, but nothing like the hate of Umbridge

 

[loki604]

I felt the same way (for the most part about the book). Except for the very beginning (death eaters) and the end. Harry stuck in protection and complaining the whole time, Ron and Hermoine bickering. Once they got to Hogwarts it got better but the damage was done. I thought it was a real struggle and the low part of the series. Well except for the Hermoine house elf liberation crap.

I loved book five. It's a hard book to read and I'll argue that it's mostly the subject matter and not poor writing - there are so few moments of pure joy that you are almost dragged down into Harry's depression; however, things I love about book five:

- Ron being a prefect
- Dumbledore's Army
- Emergence of Neville and Luna in particular
- Some funny parts with the romance
- Ron joins the Quidditch team
- The school's building response to the totalitarianism in the school (Nifflers being put in Umbridge's office, Fred and George speed away, Peeves wreaking havoc)
- Harry's emergence as a true leader
- The trio considering career options and McGonagall going to bat for Harry
- Harry having to face his hero complex
- The Department of Mysteries is one of the coolest things JKR invented (they did this poorly in the movies)
- The scene where Dumbledore and Harry talk after SB dies is still one of the best chapters of the series and some of JKR's best writing - also done poorly in the movie
- True villain - you cannot possibly read this book and not loathe Umbridge

That being said, the one scene I don't care for in the book is Grawp...just didn't interest me at all. However, she did this to get Hermione and Harry away from the Quidditch pitch so Ron's success could be a reveal (which works much better here than if we had been privy to the game) and to set up for later, so it did serve a purpose.

 

[ritari330]

1 more thing to add...McGonagall v. Umbridge when Umbridge was ispecting McGonagall. Loved that part

 

[pixburgher66]

I loved Order of the Phoenix, but the emo Harry thing did grate on me a bit.

 

[pixburgher66]

I just love McGonagall

 

[loki604]

I loved Order of the Phoenix, but the emo Harry thing did grate on me a bit.

I understand that people found it grating, but it was also realistic.

Please tell me why you like Sirius Black. I'm not going to try to change your opinion or anything; I just want someone to let me know what they like about him.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

I started re-reading the series and I'm midway through book 5. My pace has slowed down a lot, but I was reading about 100 pages a day for a week or so when I started. Also, I hate Umbridge

I have been in as well, in preparation/excitement for an eventual trip to wizarding world of HP.


I'm only midway through book 4 though.

 

[pixburgher66]

I understand that people found it grating, but it was also realistic.

Please tell me why you like Sirius Black. I'm not going to try to change your opinion or anything; I just want someone to let me know what they like about him.

I honestly think I loved the Gary Oldman character more than the book character. He was fun, and I think, like you, I loved that he was someone for Harry that was basically family. I loved that Harry finally found someone.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

I loved book five. It's a hard book to read and I'll argue that it's mostly the subject matter and not poor writing - there are so few moments of pure joy that you are almost dragged down into Harry's depression; however, things I love about book five:


- Emergence of Neville and Luna in particular

Best. Parts.

I heart Luna

 

[ritari330]

Kinda agree that I liked Sirius in the movies more than in the books