OT - Clippers and their racist owner

[forty_three]

I think that is known as the Wayne Gretzky corollary

Precisely.

Or the counter argument that Scotty Bowman was a terrible hockey player.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I can't think of a modern NHL owner who could come close to this kind of douchebaggery.

taking the racism element out of the equation, how about an nhl owner who goes to visit a player to tell him he is their guy and more importantly take off his shirt to show the player the new tattoo of the name of his new young girlfriend

 

[DragonfromTO]

taking the racism element out of the equation, how about an nhl owner who goes to visit a player to tell him he is their guy and more importantly take off his shirt to show the player the new tattoo of the name of his new young girlfriend

This was a classic Conn Smythe move, usually followed by raising his fingers and saying "here, get a whiff of this"

 

[evolver115]

taking the racism element out of the equation, how about an nhl owner who goes to visit a player to tell him he is their guy and more importantly take off his shirt to show the player the new tattoo of the name of his new young girlfriend

Kinda hard to take the racism element out of this particular equation, though. If you do that you're just left with another rich white cracker who owns a professional sports franchise. They're a dime a dozen.

 

[Comeds]

Do we really know this guy is a racist? Maybe his words were taken out of context?

 

[evolver115]

Do we really know this guy is a racist? Maybe his words were taken out of context?

Your Complete Quotable Guide To Decades Of Donald Sterling's Racism

 

[dash]

Do we really know this guy is a racist? Maybe his words were taken out of context?

They hacked his twitter account.
But it was a phone conversation.
Doesn't matter, these guys are clever.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

They hacked his twitter account.
But it was a phone conversation.
Doesn't matter, these guys are clever.

Made me think of this:
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[Comeds]

Your Complete Quotable Guide To Decades Of Donald Sterling's Racism

LOL I was kidding

 

[mattola]

Your Complete Quotable Guide To Decades Of Donald Sterling's Racism

holy shitballs this guy is something wow.

 

[evolver115]

LOL I was kidding

I realize

He's been at it for decades, though. And he's still an active owner in a league that is dominated by minorities.


Just makes me

 

[pixburgher66]

Reading on twitter that it seems Adam Silver is going to lay the boom soon. It was labeled as "nuking". There was some worry that he would respond in court, but the damage he's causing to the league financially and in the media will probably win out. Plenty of sponsors dropping the Clippers and plenty of fans saying they're gone until he is. Should be interesting.

 

[Darkstone42]

I was more talking about that point like 10 years ago where there were nearly 250 combined head coaching jobs at I-A colleges and in the NFL and less than a half dozen of those coaches were black in a sport where black athletes have a slight majority. The Rooney Rule came along and today there are a few dozen black head coaches in the pro and college ranks, some of whom have won titles or put teams in the top 25.

You have one owner (in Sterling) who is clearly an asshole/racist, but the NBA has far more minority representation in ownership and at executive/coaching positions than any other pro sports league. And I'm not saying that is good/bad or trying to be political, it just follows suit that in sports where the majority of the athletes are of a certain race, you'd expect that they would represent organizational leadership roles in similar proportions. And you see that in the NBA, less so in the NFL. So to attribute the values of one owner to a league with a proven track record of minority ownership/leadership seems unfair. That's all.

I think you're getting at something much bigger here, ultimately. I agree, the hiring of coaches should track with the demographics of the players, but executive positions are a different story, especially owners. Until the economic landscape evens out for minorities, there simply will not be enough minorities with the backgrounds which get their feet in the door. That's a cultural/societal/national issue more than a league issue, and since the NFL is so much bigger money than the NBA, the gap is much larger.

Too high a rate of the super rich in this country are white, and you have to be super rich to buy an NFL team. You have to be super rich to buy an NBA team, too, but less super rich in general, since NBA teams have lower values. Until we a achieve a race-neutral economic landscape, it will be nearly impossible for minorities to hold executive positions in the NFL.

 

[pixburgher66]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 8m
What I'm expecting today, Part 2: NBA Players Assoc. demands July free agency for all Clipper players unless NBA sells Clippers ASAP.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 10m
What I'm expecting today, Part 1: Silver announces lifetime suspension for DS and that he's starting franchise termination process ASAP.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 11m
People are waaaaaaaay off on value of Clips franchise. All kinds of deep pockets circling this Sterling fiasco. Team will fetch $1.5b easy.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
3. Stealth asset NBA has going for it: Sponsors dropping out + local TV deal going away + players/coaches/fans vowing to leave or stay away.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
2. Only problem - Sterling loves courtrooms, he has no shame, he's not self-aware, he's comically stubborn + he might just decide to fight.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
1. Hearing Adam Silver is dropping the nukes on Donald Sterling today. Everything short of a big mushroom cloud shaped like the NBA logo.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Wow, that would really be something to see if they go for the nuclear option.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Wow, that would really be something to see if they go for the nuclear option.

truth... this would be one hell of a stand ... get your popcorn ready for the lawsuits that will follow

 

[Darkstone42]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 8m
What I'm expecting today, Part 2: NBA Players Assoc. demands July free agency for all Clipper players unless NBA sells Clippers ASAP.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 10m
What I'm expecting today, Part 1: Silver announces lifetime suspension for DS and that he's starting franchise termination process ASAP.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 11m
People are waaaaaaaay off on value of Clips franchise. All kinds of deep pockets circling this Sterling fiasco. Team will fetch $1.5b easy.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
3. Stealth asset NBA has going for it: Sponsors dropping out + local TV deal going away + players/coaches/fans vowing to leave or stay away.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
2. Only problem - Sterling loves courtrooms, he has no shame, he's not self-aware, he's comically stubborn + he might just decide to fight.
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Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1h
1. Hearing Adam Silver is dropping the nukes on Donald Sterling today. Everything short of a big mushroom cloud shaped like the NBA logo.

I especially like the bolded one. If they can't get anyone to sign back there, what do they do? That's a really sound penalty.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

1.5 billion franchise valuation on the clippers doesnt seem at all reasonable

if someone pays that (dont do it Magic!) ... Sterling wins ... what did he pay for it ... $15 shmill?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

1.5 billion franchise valuation on the clippers doesnt seem at all reasonable

if someone pays that (dont do it Magic!) ... Sterling wins ... what did he pay for it ... $15 shmill?

Especially when Forbes pegs the value at only $575M

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I especially like the bolded one. If they can't get anyone to sign back there, what do they do? That's a really sound penalty.

Someone will sign there. You pay a guy who's a borderline (or worse) NBA player waaayyy above his pay grade, and he'll swallow his principles for a while.

Or, barring that, they can get a bunch of KKK members who would happily sign on for the league minimum.