OT: Armstrong going to admit doping next Thursday

[mattola]

 

[Dacks]

I don't understand the suing (other than for libel) or jailtime talk. Which laws did he break? Fraud, maybe? I mean, he definitely profited off cheating, but so did McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, some Olympians, etc... It's a pretty slippery slope. I mean, if somebody cheats on a school test, gets a good degree, and then gets a job they don't deserve, do they get jail time for that?

 

[IPostedWhat]

I don't understand the suing (other than for libel) or jailtime talk. Which laws did he break? Fraud, maybe? I mean, he definitely profited off cheating, but so did McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, some Olympians, etc... It's a pretty slippery slope. I mean, if somebody cheats on a school test, gets a good degree, and then gets a job they don't deserve, do they get jail time for that?

He opens himself up for civil lawsuits. They had a lawyer on ESPN radio talking about it, and he said the Postal Service alone can sue him for 120 million because he broke the agreement of their contract.

The Postal Service gave Lance about 40 million over the years and the contract he signed states that they can sue him for 3x the amount if he does anything that tarnishes his image and thus making the Postal Service look bad.

Lance sued a company when they wouldn't sponser him for 5 million because they didn't believe he never cheated. Lance took them to court and was awarded 7.5 million.

He also sued a reporter in England for 1 million when the reporter wrote about him cheating in cycling.

The list goes on and on....

Over the years Lance has attacked people and made them suffer while denying he ever cheated. Sometimes payback is a bitch.

 

[Dacks]

He opens himself up for civil lawsuits. They had a lawyer on ESPN radio talking about it, and he said the Postal Service alone can sue him for 120 million because he broke the agreement of their contract.

The Postal Service gave Lance about 40 million of the years and the contract he signed states that they can sue him for 3x the amount if he does anything that tarnishes his image and thus making the Postal Service look bad.

Lance sued a company when they wouldn't sponser him for 5 million because they didn't believe he never cheated. Lance took them to court and was awarded 77.5 million.

He also sued a reporter in England for 1 million when the reporter wrote about him cheating in cycling.

The list goes on and on....

Over the years Lance has attacked people and made them suffer while denying he ever cheated. Sometimes payback is a bitch.

Yikes. Didn't realize it went to that extent. Well, obviously, you'd have to think some of those lawsuits will get reversed and then some.

I doubt Postal Service has a case. It was their team, and while he was a leader, he wasn't in charge. They're implicated as well, as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I think he's always been a douche, but the outrage from (some of) the cycling world is a bit rich, as that sport profited like never before, both financially and in terms of popularity, during his run. Alot of people looked the other way.

 

[pixburgher66]

He opens himself up for civil lawsuits. They had a lawyer on ESPN radio talking about it, and he said the Postal Service alone can sue him for 120 million because he broke the agreement of their contract.

The Postal Service gave Lance about 40 million over the years and the contract he signed states that they can sue him for 3x the amount if he does anything that tarnishes his image and thus making the Postal Service look bad.

Lance sued a company when they wouldn't sponser him for 5 million because they didn't believe he never cheated. Lance took them to court and was awarded 7.5 million.

He also sued a reporter in England for 1 million when the reporter wrote about him cheating in cycling.

The list goes on and on....

Over the years Lance has attacked people and made them suffer while denying he ever cheated. Sometimes payback is a bitch.

No wonder the guy wanted to go to his grave with the truth...

 

[HammerDown]

He opens himself up for civil lawsuits. They had a lawyer on ESPN radio talking about it, and he said the Postal Service alone can sue him for 120 million because he broke the agreement of their contract.

The Postal Service gave Lance about 40 million over the years and the contract he signed states that they can sue him for 3x the amount if he does anything that tarnishes his image and thus making the Postal Service look bad.

Lance sued a company when they wouldn't sponser him for 5 million because they didn't believe he never cheated. Lance took them to court and was awarded 7.5 million.

He also sued a reporter in England for 1 million when the reporter wrote about him cheating in cycling.

The list goes on and on....

Over the years Lance has attacked people and made them suffer while denying he ever cheated. Sometimes payback is a bitch.

He deserves exactly what he dished out. I hope he ends up broke, miserable and lonely. He's a piece of shit.

 

[awaz]

Yikes. Didn't realize it went to that extent. Well, obviously, you'd have to think some of those lawsuits will get reversed and then some.

I doubt Postal Service has a case. It was their team, and while he was a leader, he wasn't in charge. They're implicated as well, as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I think he's always been a douche, but the outrage from (some of) the cycling world is a bit rich, as that sport profited like never before, both financially and in terms of popularity, during his run. Alot of people looked the other way.

that's pretty much where i stand on it too.. plus the all the livestrong foundation help that people have gotten, even if it is just an empowering type of help

he's a liar and a cheat, but there are far worse people out there than lance armstrong IMO.. even through his lies and deceit he's done a lot more good then bad, for both cycling and cancer patients

 

[HammerDown]

For the life of me I will never figure out the "yeah, but there are worse people than him excuse." Hell, Sandusky should go into court and beg for mercy because Hitler was worse than him. It. Makes. No. Sense.

 

[awaz]

For the life of me I will never figure out the "yeah, but there are worse people than him excuse." Hell, Sandusky should go into court and beg for mercy because Hitler was worse than him. It. Makes. No. Sense.

i only use it because look at the coverage ray lewis is getting now that he's retiring, and he might have / probably did kill someone. that coverage is bull shit, i would much rather have lance armstrong glorified in the public eye than ray fuckin lewis..

sandusky to hitler is just a gross exaggeration. in both those cases people were physically hurt. who is hurt by lance armstrong right now? maybe the guys that should've won the tour de france in his stead? they were probably doping anyway.

 

[HammerDown]

You should spend some time and look into Lance Armstrong and his bully henchmen and what they did to people's lives. I did and that's why I'd love to see him hung by his ball. Do you really think this is just a petty little case of taking a shortcut to victory?

 

[awaz]

i mean look at who gets vilified the most in the sports world

1. Roger Clemens
2. Pete Rose
3. Lance Armstrong
4. OJ Simpson
5. Saints Bounty Case

that's about all i can think of so nobody else must be too vilified.. but look at where 'our' priorities are in that.. the 3 biggest villians in sports right now hurt NOBODY.. OJ Simpson killed someone, the saints paid players to hurt people, and guys like ray lewis don't even make the list because the media is too focused on how good of a football player he was in his career to worry about the men that died 10 years ago

 

[awaz]

You should spend some time and look into Lance Armstrong and his bully henchmen and what they did to people's lives. I did and that's why I'd love to see him hung by his ball. Do you really think this is just a petty little case of taking a shortcut to victory?

do you have a link to that? i'm not sure what i'd search for to find it haha.. but i'm willing to read

edit: lance armstrong bully is apparently enough. i'll be back.

 

[HammerDown]

i mean look at who gets vilified the most in the sports world

1. Roger Clemens
2. Pete Rose
3. Lance Armstrong
4. OJ Simpson
5. Saints Bounty Case

that's about all i can think of so nobody else must be too vilified.. but look at where 'our' priorities are in that.. the 3 biggest villians in sports right now hurt NOBODY.. OJ Simpson killed someone, the saints paid players to hurt people, and guys like ray lewis don't even make the list because the media is too focused on how good of a football player he was in his career to worry about the men that died 10 years ago

Now Lance Armstrong is "vilified?" You really must be joking. Glorified is more like it!

 

[awaz]

Now Lance Armstrong is "vilified?" You really must be joking. Glorified is more like it!

clearly we're following different news sources then.. i have yet to see anyone glorify him.. maybe the occasional person that applauds him for 'finally telling the truth'.. but i feel like most people want him to be miserable for ever over all of this.. people felt bad for him when they still believed him, but i dont think anyone stands by his side now.. maybe i'm oblivious


as far as bullying people, the bits that i have read so far seem like insults and personal attacks.. while bad, still not physically harming anyone.. this country as a whole could use some tougher skin.. it's wrong to bully people, but bullying shouldn't have the effect that it does either

 

[awaz]

looks like in this thread the common opinion is siding with me, so maybe he's less vilified then i thought haha

 

[HammerDown]

looks like in this thread the common opinion is siding with me, so maybe he's less vilified then i thought haha

Not quite sure what you mean by "siding with you" but if you mean saying "leave the poor fella alone" then I agree. That's the majority opinion and doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

He deserves exactly what he dished out. I hope he ends up broke, miserable and lonely. He's a piece of shit.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Yikes. Didn't realize it went to that extent. Well, obviously, you'd have to think some of those lawsuits will get reversed and then some.

I doubt Postal Service has a case. It was their team, and while he was a leader, he wasn't in charge. They're implicated as well, as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I think he's always been a douche, but the outrage from (some of) the cycling world is a bit rich, as that sport profited like never before, both financially and in terms of popularity, during his run. Alot of people looked the other way.

Doesn't matter, Most organization will legally protect their image via a contractual agreement that would include a code of conduct. While it may not protect them 100% It can limit the liability. If you work for or represent a company or organization and break the law that is your personal choice.

Their name USPS is linked to Armstrong through sponsorship and the chances of them being involved in any litigation for him breaking the rules is very slim. He breached his contract with the USPS.

 

[HammerDown]

I couldn't agree more.

Come say hi in the Padres forum, man. I'm going to be active over there.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

You should spend some time and look into Lance Armstrong and his bully henchmen and what they did to people's lives. I did and that's why I'd love to see him hung by his ball. Do you really think this is just a petty little case of taking a shortcut to victory?

I agree. Armstrong threatened to ruin anyone who got in his way.