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OT: Armstrong going to admit doping next Thursday

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Hey 46&2, this might be an odd question, but were you in the Pittsburgh airport on December 27 per chance? I saw a fellow who looked an awful lot like you wearing a Virginia Tech hat on that day.
 

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For some reason, I still have respect for and like Armstrong. At the same time, I hate guys like Bonds and Clemens. And I can't quite figure out the disconnect.

It might be because he is OUR guy or maybe because EVERYONE in the sport of cycling is dirty. I guess it bothers me that during the 'roid era some guys were cheating and some were not, especially since they were shattering all-time records. But with Lance, is there any doubt he was the best cyclist of his era - doping or not?
 

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For some reason, I still have respect for and like Armstrong. At the same time, I hate guys like Bonds and Clemens. And I can't quite figure out the disconnect.

It might be because he is OUR guy or maybe because EVERYONE in the sport of cycling is dirty. I guess it bothers me that during the 'roid era some guys were cheating and some were not, especially since they were shattering all-time records. But with Lance, is there any doubt he was the best cyclist of his era - doping or not?

Sadly, I no longer give a shit.
 

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If he gets all emotional will people suddenly respect and love him again? I won't get it all back.
 

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Finding out that Lance was doping all those years is just like finding out that Santa isn't real.

It was so nice to watch a really nice, charasmatic guy, do something that no other American could ever do, dominate the Tour de France, and do it while battling cancer while raising millions of dollars to help others.

It seemed like he was someone you could look up to and be inspired by, he gave people hope. Not only in achieving your goals and dreams, but on how to live, instead of just trying to survive.

That is what I think is the most heart crushing thing about the whole thing....
 

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Finding out that Lance was doping all those years is just like finding out that Santa isn't real.

It was so nice to watch a really nice, charasmatic guy, do something that no other American could ever do, dominate the Tour de France, and do it while battling cancer while raising millions of dollars to help others.

It seemed like he was someone you could look up to and be inspired by, he gave people hope. Not only in achieving your goals and dreams, but on how to live, instead of just trying to survive.

That is what I think is the most heart crushing thing about the whole thing....

*golf clap*

People compare it to the Tiger fall. I can't stand Tiger but he creeped on his wife! That's not really comparable, IMO, at least with respect to sport success.

Tiger's indiscretion only really impacted himself and his wife. Lance (and all the rest) fucked up a whole sport.
 

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I mean, in terms of my respect for someone as a human being? Lance>>>>>>>Tiger As an athlete? Tiger>>>>>>Lance
 
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I was not. I am not in Pittsburgh anymore. I bet that was one damn good looking fellow though.

I thought maybe you were visiting with Sara for the holidays or something. This fellow was with a girl, and she left right before he went through security, probably seeing him off.

I noticed all of this because I was right behind them in line and chatting with them, by the way, not because I was creeping from afar.

And he was alright... :rolleyes:
 

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He denied it for years. I really hope his foundation has & will continue to help people, but I've lost all respect for him.

Newsflash: Neither Lance Armstrong nor his foundation "help people." They only raise money and they're both very good at it.
 

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I thought maybe you were visiting with Sara for the holidays or something. This fellow was with a girl, and she left right before he went through security, probably seeing him off.

I noticed all of this because I was right behind them in line and chatting with them, by the way, not because I was creeping from afar.

And he was alright... :rolleyes:

Well, Sara has posted on here and would again but she forgot her password. LOL. So next time you may be "chatting" with me, ask what all the SportsHoopla is about. I will only be mildly embarrassed.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...d-go-date-one-person-board-3.html#post1734524

She is slim, and you, especially, will appreciate the pic she posted.

:D
 

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Newsflash: Neither Lance Armstrong nor his foundation "help people." They only raise money and they're both very good at it.

Which they use to help people fighting Cancer. They helped my mother with bills when she was fighting it.
 

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Well this lost all its meaning.....

 
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Which they use to help people fighting Cancer. They helped my mother with bills when she was fighting it.

I'm sure that meant allot to your mother. So would you say that Livestrong is not a "cancer research" charity as most people believe it is and that Armstrong has raised trillions of dollars for "cancer research?"

Jimmy V > Lance Cheatstrong
 

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I'm sure that meant allot to your mother. So would you say that Livestrong is not a "cancer research" charity as most people believe it is and that Armstrong has raised trillions of dollars for "cancer research?"

Jimmy V > Lance Cheatstrong

Some goes to Cancer Research, but Livestrong and Susan G Komen are the only two that focus on Cancer survivors and fighters more than research. If people don't realize that, then that's sad because they aren't paying attention.

The foundation does more "for people" than the researchers. The researchers are helping the future. Livestrong helps the here and now. Like Ronald McDonald House for grown ups.
 

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I find it very black and white.

If you're going to use PED's, it's no better than paying off a judge or having someone go Jeff Gillooly on your closest rival or opponent; it's cheating no matter how you slice it. It might sound a tad trite or overly idealistic, but it's just no fair to the guy (or gal) who decided to play by the rules and not use PED's.

I have no malice towards LA, but I simply do not recognize his quasi-accomplishments, being that he felt it necessary to give himself an unfair/illegal advantage. Having most everyone else doing PED's doesn't justify their use, anymore than saying that, "everyone else was robbing Sears so why shouldn't I; it's not so bad", during a riot.
 
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