Ongoing NHL Thread Part IV - A New Hope

[mooger_35]

I'm sure the beer was fine

I'm sure that was me. I definitely remember watching him get shellacked!

 

[wings-pens2166]

That house got foreclosed on. We're gonna put tigers in it so it stays empty.

ah, so he's been letting the parents handle the finances again, eh.

 

[mattola]

I'm sure that was me. I definitely remember watching him get shellacked!

That's right.

 

[mooger_35]

If memory serves we met up with puck before the game as he was going as well.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

So there's a pretty decent chance Colorado could draft 1-2 and start next season with a squad that has Cale Makar, Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko in addition to a roster that already has Rantanen, Mackinnon, Landeskog and Barrie on it.

If Montreal trades them Carey Price in the next two years, look out.

 

[dash]

So there's a pretty decent chance Colorado could draft 1-2 and start next season with a squad that has Cale Makar, Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko in addition to a roster that already has Rantanen, Mackinnon, Landeskog and Barrie on it.

If Montreal trades them Carey Price in the next two years, look out.

The Divelanche have received enough goalie gifts from the Habs, thank you very much.

 

[elocomotive]

So there's a pretty decent chance Colorado could draft 1-2 and start next season with a squad that has Cale Makar, Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko in addition to a roster that already has Rantanen, Mackinnon, Landeskog and Barrie on it.

If Montreal trades them Carey Price in the next two years, look out.

So the dominant teams of the 2010s would probably include the Blackhawks, Pens, Kings, Caps, Canucks, and Bruins. Those teams account for all the Cups and all but two of the President's Trophies of the 10s thus far.

So who are the teams of the 2020s?

I'd say it's looking like Colorado, Tampa Bay, Toronto, and Columbus at this point. That a good list? Any others?

Maybe Edmo....(snicker)... Could be the Oi... I can't, I just can't.

 

[naslundfan19]

So there's a pretty decent chance Colorado could draft 1-2 and start next season with a squad that has Cale Makar, Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko in addition to a roster that already has Rantanen, Mackinnon, Landeskog and Barrie on it.

If Montreal trades them Carey Price in the next two years, look out.

Jersey retirement in 2 years then?

 

[gob]

So the dominant teams of the 2010s would probably include the Blackhawks, Pens, Kings, Caps, Canucks, and Bruins. Those teams account for all the Cups and all but two of the President's Trophies of the 10s thus far.

So who are the teams of the 2020s?

I'd say it's looking like Colorado, Tampa Bay, Toronto, and Columbus at this point. That a good list? Any others?

Maybe Edmo....(snicker)... Could be the Oi... I can't, I just can't.

I hope so...

 

[dash]

I'll just say this, for as much as we mock the Oil (led by yours truly), Colorado hasn't exactly been bereft of top picks over the last several years and that hasn't exactly translated into a lot of success thus far.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

So the dominant teams of the 2010s would probably include the Blackhawks, Pens, Kings, Caps, Canucks, and Bruins. Those teams account for all the Cups and all but two of the President's Trophies of the 10s thus far.

So who are the teams of the 2020s?

I'd say it's looking like Colorado, Tampa Bay, Toronto, and Columbus at this point. That a good list? Any others?

Maybe Edmo....(snicker)... Could be the Oi... I can't, I just can't.

The thing with those teams is only one of them (TB) has a sure-shit long-term goalie.

Not sure about Columbus - some blue chip young pieces in Jones, Werenski & Dubois and Wennberg & Carlsson could still come good but unless there are some hidden gems in the minors (Abramov looks like he's starting to pick up the North American game, Foudy's still young although you'd probably want more from him at the OHL level at 19 y/o) and given that they're unlikely to suddenly become a UFA draw it would be surprising if they were to become much more than they already are. Maybe check back in a year after the Panarin/Bobrovsky situations have played out.

But yeah, throw Winnipeg in there and that's about as good a guess as anyone would have. Vancouver's been drafting well and could be picking in the top 10 again, won't rule out Edmonton so long as McDavid's there (although he's probably going to have to smack the owner into getting a smart GM with full control of hockey ops for that to happen), and it's kind of hard to ignore that Carolina has some pretty solid stats and a relatively young core.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I'll just say this, for as much as we mock the Oil (led by yours truly), Colorado hasn't exactly been bereft of top picks over the last several years and that hasn't exactly translated into a lot of success thus far.

Like many teams, their depth drafting has been pretty crap but can't really knock anything they've done in the first round since Sakic took over save taking Conner Bleackley when Pastrnak went two spots later.

 

[dash]

won't rule out Edmonton so long as McDavid's there (although he's probably going to have to smack the owner into getting a smart GM with full control of hockey ops for that to happen).

I don't disagree, however will Katz see the light and get rid of the clown show known as Lowe and MacT?!? As long as those two goofs are around, the Oil will continue to flounder.

 

[elocomotive]

...As long as those two goofs are around, the Oil will continue to flounder.

Mmm... a little flounder sauteed in some oil sounds nice. (checks clock) Lunch time!

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I don't disagree, however will Katz see the light and get rid of the clown show known as Lowe and MacT?!? As long as those two goofs are around, the Oil will continue to flounder.

That's everything. It may very well take McDavid pulling rank and doing an Eichel though and I'm not sure if the kid has that in him. Hope he does for his sake.

 

[elocomotive]

Hope he does for his sake.

A little sake to go along with it sounds nice. Maybe some maki rolls for a starter.

#MakiNSake

 

[KennyBanyeah]

So the dominant teams of the 2010s would probably include the Blackhawks, Pens, Kings, Caps, Canucks, and Bruins. Those teams account for all the Cups and all but two of the President's Trophies of the 10s thus far.

So who are the teams of the 2020s?

I'd say it's looking like Colorado, Tampa Bay, Toronto, and Columbus at this point. That a good list? Any others?

Maybe Edmo....(snicker)... Could be the Oi... I can't, I just can't.

Buffalo.

True number #1C and potentially a generational defenseman. Throw in Reinhart and some other nice pieces and they have one of the best young cores, IMO.

 

[Comeds]

I'm not seeing the Habs on anyone's list. I guess no one noticed that they picked up Dale Weise and Nate Thompson....

#haters

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Buffalo.

True number #1C and potentially a generational defenseman. Throw in Reinhart and some other nice pieces and they have one of the best young cores, IMO.

Maybe. Mittelstadt will still need a couple of years and if they lose Skinner they're back to having a top line hole to fill externally at least until if and when Nylander can break into the team and make an impact.

Dahlin and Risto as a D partnership isn't going to get them far either. They need two solid guys to play with them which isn't easy to come by. They're hoping Guhle can grab one of those spots. Ullmark could be a real goalie too.

They have four 1sts the next two years and there's a chance at least two of those are lottery picks. Obvious value there either by using those themselves or moving them for assets.

Their biggest problem may be that this all spells a good team in 2-3 years and a very good team in 3-4. Eichel's already bitched and gotten an entire management group fired once. How much more losing is he going to tolerate before really setting things on fire?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I'm not seeing the Habs on anyone's list. I guess no one noticed that they picked up Dale Weise and Nate Thompson....

#haters

Habs are on my list of "Teams that didn't get an interview with John Tavares" still if that helps.