Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

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DEAD LAST!

/Miller for Kylington

We're going to ride the Chad until he's hanging down like a Florida ballot.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Getting scrubs like Toews off would be a start

 

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[tducey]

Milestone watch: Ovechkin's next point is his 1000th. Next game tomorrow vs. Pittsburgh and Crosby.

 

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[forty_three]

Milestone watch: Ovechkin's next point is his 1000th. Next game tomorrow vs. Pittsburgh and Crosby.

I hope the NHL is aware of this, it might be an opportunity to promote this otherwise unexcitng matchup.



On another note, I really enjoyed this (and yes I did send it to my son):
Letter to My Younger Self | The Players' Tribune

 

[Duke of Douchington]

The fuck?? Implications that Toews is a Top 100 player of all time?

 

[dash]

The fuck?? Implications that Toews is a Top 100 player of all time?

Certainly looks that way, doesn't it.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

On another note, I really enjoyed this (and yes I did send it to my son):
Letter to My Younger Self | The Players' Tribune

That was great. His dad is a Eros Ramazzotti fan lol

 

[Duke of Douchington]

Certainly looks that way, doesn't it.

Am I the only one who doesn't see that with Toews? I understand there is an absurd level of Kool Aid since he's a post-Bill Wirtz Hawk and that's cool all of a sudden but being a defensively reliable center who is decent at scoring isn't "legend" worthy.

Is Kopitar top 100? Bergeron?

 

[esls79]

The fuck?? Implications that Toews is a Top 100 player of all time?

In ability to secure desirable trim, which incidentally is another often overlooked intangible, Toews easily cracks the top 100. Intangibles matter.

 

[Duke of Douchington]

Intangibles matter.

Vomited in my mouth a little.

It's incredible how people gush over Toews but if you look at a guy in his draft class, Backstrom, another defensively reliable center who scores at a higher pace, has almost 100 more hits, TWICE AS MANY blocked shots and similar takeaway numbers and gets no love because he hasn't won an "intangible" cup.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Vomited in my mouth a little.

It's incredible how people gush over Toews but if you look at a guy in his draft class, Backstrom, another defensively reliable center who scores at a higher pace, has almost 100 more hits, TWICE AS MANY blocked shots and similar takeaway numbers and gets no love because he hasn't won an "intangible" cup.

This guy fucks.

 

[puckhead]

Ducks trade for Jhonas Enroth (7th rounder), because why wouldn't they

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Who does everyone think is the best goalie on that list? I think its clearly Cam Ward. He is one of the better goalies in the NHL.

I think he's the only one with a regular NHL job on the list save Lehtonen.

To Ward's credit, he's been pretty decent this year. Re-signing him wasn't as big a blunder as we all thought last summer.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Vomited in my mouth a little.

It's incredible how people gush over Toews but if you look at a guy in his draft class, Backstrom, another defensively reliable center who scores at a higher pace, has almost 100 more hits, TWICE AS MANY blocked shots and similar takeaway numbers and gets no love because he hasn't won an "intangible" cup.

Playoffs matter.

 

[BGDave]

Playoffs matter.

Maybe, but they shouldn't. Not in this type of list.

I am with @Duke of Douchington on this one, Toews should not be on this list.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Maybe, but they shouldn't. Not in this type of list.

I am with @Duke of Douchington on this one, Toews should not be on this list.

I was speaking about his comparison of Backstrom to Toews.

I don't personally think Toews is one of the 100 best NHL players of all time but I do understand why a top centre who has 3 rings, a Conn Smythe and a Selke all by the age of 27 while averaging around 70 pts a year might garner that kind of respect among whoever voted in this list.

 

[forty_three]

I think he's the only one with a regular NHL job on the list save Lehtonen.

To Ward's credit, he's been pretty decent this year. Re-signing him wasn't as big a blunder as we all thought last summer.

Don't often see those two words together.




boo yah

 

[Duke of Douchington]

I was speaking about his comparison of Backstrom to Toews.

I don't personally think Toews is one of the 100 best NHL players of all time but I do understand why a top centre who has 3 rings, a Conn Smythe and a Selke all by the age of 27 while averaging around 70 pts a year might garner that kind of respect among whoever voted in this list.

Rounding up never hurts I guess, given that Toews has hit 70 points just once in his 10 year career...

The Cups argument is always laughable to me. This isn't basketball, a player doesn't carry their team to a cup. Was Toews a big contributor? Yes. Do hockey players only play 1/3rd of every game? Yes. So, 66% of the time, Toews had nothing at all to do with his team winning cups. To get all computer boyish with fancy numbers.

The Backstrom comparison is more than valid. Backstrom has outproduced Toews on offense and defense his entire career, the super duper numbers don't lie.