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Bloody Brian Burke

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I'm just going to say that while them having Eichel (and to a lesser extent ROR) for the mid-to-long term future scares me, I am quite happy Evander Kane will be a Sabre for a long, long time. :nod:
 

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Oh and I don't look like Evander Kane...

/I also don't walk out on restaurant tabs either.
 

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I'm just going to say that while them having Eichel (and to a lesser extent ROR) for the mid-to-long term future scares me, I am quite happy Evander Kane will be a Sabre for a long, long time. :nod:
If Kane can keep his head out of his ass (I know, a HUGE if), he can be a big contributor to that team for a long time. The dude has tons of talent and can definitely contribute, especially playing with guys of Eichel's caliber.

Really gotta get that head extracted though.
 

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The expectations with Babs were way too high. I'm not talking about only the Toronto area either. I think most people in the area aren't shocked with the record, but people pinning it on the coach are batty. I still don't fully understand why Babcock has the sterling reputation that he does in comparison to a few others and it makes those expectations ridiculous and unobtainable. Coaches can have an impact, but it's so marginal in comparison to what the players do.

Here's a graph showing the Leafs recent Fenwick diffs. Only one example, but in this case it doesn't appear to be "marginal". If you look at individual players you can see the same thing, their possession numbers go down under Carlyle and then go back up when they leave the Leafs.

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If Kane can keep his head out of his ass (I know, a HUGE if), he can be a big contributor to that team for a long time. The dude has tons of talent and can definitely contribute, especially playing with guys of Eichel's caliber.

Really gotta get that head extracted though.
Just hope they don't sign Buff in the offseason.
 

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Is the box score of the Cow Pies/Devils game accurate? Shots are 15-8 in favor of Devils after two? What is this crap trap hockey
 

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10 games in and the McJesus led Oilers are 3-7. Cam Talbot with a spiffy .857 save percentage tonight.

/Not quite the Rangers defense in front of you, is it Cam?
 

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Occasionally, Dave Hodge bugs me - Thumbs down to the Leafs? I don't get it, the Leafs have at least shown pretty good effort in most games I've watched of theirs this season, I mean everybody knew it wasn't going to be a great season as far as collecting 'W's" is concerned.

Thumbs up to Canucks, Habs; down to Leafs

/I'm not a Leafs fan, by the way.
 

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Occasionally, Dave Hodge bugs me - Thumbs down to the Leafs? I don't get it, the Leafs have at least shown pretty good effort in most games I've watched of theirs this season, I mean everybody knew it wasn't going to be a great season as far as collecting 'W's" is concerned.

Thumbs up to Canucks, Habs; down to Leafs

/I'm not a Leafs fan, by the way.
"Thumbs down" to what is shaping up as a tedious season in Toronto. It is well advertised that the Maple Leafs hope to win as often as they can now but plan to win more often in the years ahead. That's the palatable way of saying they expect to lose now.

So what's in it for the fans?"

It's shit like this that gave past Leaf GM's the impression of an impatient, petulant fanbase unwilling to wait out a rebuild that leads to them mortgaging the future for magic beans. What's in it for the fans? The win more often in the years ahead part of your first paragraph, jackass.
 

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Dave hodge is an asshole ... a pen flipper too :whistle:
 

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They're hoping Marner can center, but more realistically he's a winger. Ditto for Nylander.

Leafs are purely in the market for picks at this point I think. They made 9 selections at the draft this year and they already have 10 picks stockpiled for next year's. They should wind up with at least 12 come draft day, and I would think they'd want 5 minimum to be in the top 60 so any moves for a guy like JVR is going to have to address that.

Luckily for the Leafs, there are plenty of teams that could contend that have +/- $5 mil in cap space available that would be more than enough to accommodate JVR and his contract (which is still a fucking bargain). Ducks, Preds, Flames, Sens, Stars, Wild, Jets, Sharks and Isles all have both the space and the potential need. And the Leafs have the added benefit of being able to take back a bad contract to sweeten the pot for both sides.

You mean the Leafs would be willing to take back somebody like Bailey in a deal for JVR? In all seriousness Anaheim might need to do something. Firing the head coach will probably come first though.
 

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You mean the Leafs would be willing to take back somebody like Bailey in a deal for JVR? In all seriousness Anaheim might need to do something. Firing the head coach will probably come first though.
Sure, just throw in Anthony Beauvillier and a first round pick.
 

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I think Garth would trade Barzal or Beau ahead of Dal Colle. Think he pictures him as JT's long-term wing partner.

I don't. Dal Colle has 5 assists in 11 games for Oshawa right now. Barzal had 5 assists in his last game. Beauvoullier is off to a great start in the Q & they recently signed him to an ELC. Beauvoullier can play Center or LW.

Besides Barzal was one of the last cuts of training camp. He's probably UNTOUCHABLE.
 

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Is the box score of the Cow Pies/Devils game accurate? Shots are 15-8 in favor of Devils after two? What is this crap trap hockey

That's misleading. 3 of the Jackets "shots" were dump ins from center at the net.
 

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swamp flashback.....Crosby is better than Ovechkin.......

Seriously...lets hope the Penguins can actually score more than 2 goals tonight. They will need something becuase if not this game will easily be 6-1 Caps well before it is over.
 
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