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[Louie26]

One heck of a Raw last night. Great stuff.... All the way up to the main event, then it was just the same hold the little man down. Same thing we have watched for what? 6 months?

Getting old.

This ridiculously overly built up story line better pay off big.

Like as in DB beats HHH at wm30 and with the win gets shot at Orton vs Skinny pants winner right after their match is done..., Bryan walks away with wwewhc at wm30!!!!!!!

Couldn't agree more on this!! There is just too much sh*t done wrong, almost hard to even get excited about WM!

Here are some matches, realistically,at some point, I'd like to see.

Bray vs Cena

HHH vs Bryan

Ambrose vs. Rollins (US Champ on the line)

Reigns vs Batista--hoping this turns into something after WM

Barret vs. anybody--he's being wasted right now, pity!

Ziggler vs. the Real Americans --- IMO, Ziggler being horribly wasted.

OR

Cesaro vs Swagger

OR

Zig/Big E vs Real Americans

There are so many things that could be done differently!!


Del Rio???


Thoughts??

 

[johnson]

For WM:

Batista v. Orton (yawn)

HHH v. Bryan (not what we wanted, but not horrible either)

Ambrose v. Reigns would be sick. (Not for sure, but should be!)

Agree...gotta do something with Bad News Barrett! Probably a little late to get a feud going and it'd probably be something lame like the Miz anyways.

I'd like to see....

Titus O'Neil v. Big E (I like Titus, but it looks like that push he convinced Vince to give him lasted like 2 episodes...too bad)

Taker v. Lesnar (love it)

Cena v Bray Wyatt (they haven't built this up enough. When people think of Wyatt foes that interest them, they think Shield)

There is still room for a surprise match that could shock the world...Sting, Kurt Angle, Hogan, Shawn Michaels...insert any of these guys and it works (even if Hogan looks like the 60-year old wrestler he's always looked like)

There seems to be little room left for guys like Del Rio, Christian, Sheamus, 3MB (was there ever room?), Ziggler, etc.

 

[WhiteMamba]

WWE wasted talent.

Sandow
Barrett
Rollins
Reigns
Ziggler

All should be used differently.

And like pointed out previously, some of my fav plot lines were not the headline plot line. Some sub plots would be welcome if done properly.

Rollins and Reigns are ready for their own gigs. I am looking forward to the separation of the shield. All 3 could easily be superstars with their own identity.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Finally the fans are speaking up in numbers for Cesaro.

He is awesome!

 

[WhiteMamba]

A Del Rio vs Cesaro slobber knocker of a rivalry would be epic.

I just startd watching again a year or so regularly again. Not sure if they did this.

Also, Sandow is so good in the ring and on the mic. Is it too late for him with his gimmick? Probably. Such a waste of a great performer.

 

[anotheridiot]

They should start a light heavyweight thing. Punk, Bryan, RVD, Rollins, Ziggler. its just not making it watching these 220 and less wrestlers manhandling 300 pounders.

Just wondering the steps its gonna take to get Reigns as a all out face. Kinda think Ambrose and Rollins are gonna go after him, maybe the usos will step in and get his heritage going, he will lose the flack vest and put on his hawaiian pants.

Someone needs to annihilate both Orton and Batista.

 

[Mistaken4193]

Im starting to think that the DB vs HHH will have the stipulation that if DB wins he gets put in the title match.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Im starting to think that the DB vs HHH will have the stipulation that if DB wins he gets put in the title match.

I had a thread about that a while back. If that is the pay day for the last 6 months then it would have been worth it.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...daniel-bryan-vs-triple-h-title-shot-line.html

 

[Mistaken4193]

I had a thread about that a while back. If that is the pay day for the last 6 months then it would have been worth it.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...daniel-bryan-vs-triple-h-title-shot-line.html

It makes sense they definitely cant have the match for their most prestigious prize at their biggest event of the year be two heels. Especially Borton vs BOOtista

 

[johnson]

That would be great. The stip would have to be if he beats HHH he gets inserted into the match at WM (not at some later PPV) for the belt. It's hard to see it happening because DB has like zero leverage to demand something like that UNLESS he agrees he'll retire if he loses. HHH would surely bite on that.

I disagree there should be a light heavyweight division or something like it. Part of the fun is the David v Goliath type matches. But I do think guys like Punk could do themselves a favor by hitting the gym a bit more...it's one thing to be of smaller stature, but it's another to barely surpass me in terms of physical intimidation and be some scary wrestler.

I also think some of the matches suffer a little when Punk is squaring off against a much bigger guy. Some of those punches and kicks (and even his finisher) stretch the imagination a bit much in those moments.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Guys I don't get it, why Undertaker vs Brock? What a waste of Brock. I would've rather seen Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt, darkness vs darkness. This is a complete waste of a Wrestlemania match, top tier talent, and such. We all know Brock will lose and such at putting the dead man over. I really hate the WWE right now.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

It makes sense they definitely cant have the match for their most prestigious prize at their biggest event of the year be two heels. Especially Borton vs BOOtista

Please for the love that is all holy, please please please let them add Daniel Bryan to this match or else it's not even worth getting WM, unless you got the WWE Network, which I'm probably going to get by WMXXX.

 

[anotheridiot]

Guys I don't get it, why Undertaker vs Brock? What a waste of Brock. I would've rather seen Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt, darkness vs darkness. This is a complete waste of a Wrestlemania match, top tier talent, and such. We all know Brock will lose and such at putting the dead man over. I really hate the WWE right now.

I dont think Undertaker really wants this match. Brock is just too unpredictable as a participant at this point (the end) in undertakers career.

 

[johnson]

Where else would you put Brock besides in the WM Championship match? That would be better and make sense, but that's not going to happen. The Streak is the next best thing.

Bray v Taker wouldn't be bad, but I think it's way easier to pretend Lesnar has a chance to end the streak than Bray Wyatt.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

I dont think Undertaker really wants this match. Brock is just too unpredictable as a participant at this point (the end) in undertakers career.

True, I wouldn't wrestle Brock if I were Undertaker. That's like wrestling Ryback LOL

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Where else would you put Brock besides in the WM Championship match? That would be better and make sense, but that's not going to happen. The Streak is the next best thing.

Bray v Taker wouldn't be bad, but I think it's way easier to pretend Lesnar has a chance to end the streak than Bray Wyatt.

I totally get where you're coming from, Brock is more believable to end the streak, but do any of us really believe the streak will end? I would honestly rather have put Brock in that Orton Batista match, just so there would be a reason to watch.

 

[anotheridiot]

Where else would you put Brock besides in the WM Championship match? That would be better and make sense, but that's not going to happen. The Streak is the next best thing.

Bray v Taker wouldn't be bad, but I think it's way easier to pretend Lesnar has a chance to end the streak than Bray Wyatt.

The streak is also the place where wrestlers that are making big money get put in the spotlight and are told to lose.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

The streak is also the place where wrestlers that are making big money get put in the spotlight and are told to lose.

It's true, but what about the promotions leading up to the match? I think we're going to be seeing Taker vs Heyman, which is cool, but didn't we see that last year? I just feel that the hype leading up to WMXXX would've been better with Taker vs Wyatts. Could've had some erie promotions. But I don't mind Brock in there, I just think he could've been used better in a different match.

 

[johnson]

Lesnar is a beast. He has to get top billing or close to it. I honestly think it had to be either a WM Championship match or the Streak.

But I agree. I don't believe he'll end the Streak, but I wouldn't believe ANYONE would. I can buy into the idea of him as a legit foe though to it and that's the best I think we can ask for.

But who knows? Maybe the year Taker tells WWE "Hey, this is my last one guys, I'm 80" they let someone end the Streak? That year would appear to be sooner than later.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

I will be rooting for Lesnar in that match I must admit. 0.0000000000000000000001% chance the streak ends but if it does I want to see it happen. It would be remembered as one of the top 3 all-time WM moments ever for sure.