• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

Official Name Debate Thread

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
23,376
4,349
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Then why assume the worst?


The facts back up Snyder's comments and reasoning for supporting the name...there isn't a single FACT that supports not supporting the name.
 

skinsdad62

US ARMY retired /mod.
Supporting Member Level 3
102,984
19,936
1,033
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Location
ada mi
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Then why assume the worst?


The facts back up Snyder's comments and reasoning for supporting the name...there isn't a single FACT that supports not supporting the name.

i didnt assume the worst

i said i felt it wasnt a good move at this time because "some " , some, being the key word ":could " could being the key word, would take it as a political publicity stunt which in fact NBC commented on

better to do that when the uproar has toned down
 

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
23,376
4,349
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
i didnt assume the worst

i said i felt it wasnt a good move at this time because "some " , some, being the key word ":could " could being the key word, would take it as a political publicity stunt which in fact NBC commented on

better to do that when the uproar has toned down



Why wait? What happens if those "Code Talkers" died before the tone calmed down? Is that fair to those who were honored?

It's like trying to shut down a WWII Memorial to those who the Memorial is honoring. If people don't like it...we have to learn to tell them to kiss our perverbial ass.
 

skinsdad62

US ARMY retired /mod.
Supporting Member Level 3
102,984
19,936
1,033
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Location
ada mi
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Why wait? What happens if those "Code Talkers" died before the tone calmed down? Is that fair to those who were honored?

It's like trying to shut down a WWII Memorial to those who the Memorial is honoring. If people don't like it...we have to learn to tell them to kiss our perverbial ass.

the honoring part i get GK . i have no issue with it .

but you must be blind death and dumb not to think people will use that as snyder" trying to pull off a propaganda" coup

to me it opened the skins up to that kind of attack .
 

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
23,376
4,349
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
the honoring part i get GK . i have no issue with it .

but you must be blind death and dumb not to think people will use that as snyder" trying to pull off a propaganda" coup

to me it opened the skins up to that kind of attack .




Why does it matter? People use propaganda against us. That is how wars are won.
 

skinsdad62

US ARMY retired /mod.
Supporting Member Level 3
102,984
19,936
1,033
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Location
ada mi
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Why does it matter? People use propaganda against us. That is how wars are won.

To me if you are right on an issue then you dont need to play games and by definition propaganda is not telling the whole truth

when something appears to be a lame attempt to win support and isnt about those heroes then you hurt your cause
 

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
23,376
4,349
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
To me if you are right on an issue then you dont need to play games and by definition propaganda is not telling the whole truth

when something appears to be a lame attempt to win support and isnt about those heroes then you hurt your cause



Nothing states that propaganda is not truth. Propaganda can simply be media attention.

What's wrong with garnering support on an issue? Isn't that what the other side is doing with the media?
 

skinsdad62

US ARMY retired /mod.
Supporting Member Level 3
102,984
19,936
1,033
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Location
ada mi
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
GK the nazi's used propaganda and is was not the truth

nothing wrong with garnering support . to me it came off as a political stunt and not about honoring then men

now if this was done , say next season , then perhaps it wouldnt have looked as bad or been construed as such
 

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
23,376
4,349
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
GK the nazi's used propaganda and is was not the truth

nothing wrong with garnering support . to me it came off as a political stunt and not about honoring then men

now if this was done , say next season , then perhaps it wouldnt have looked as bad or been construed as such



Yes the NAZIs did but propaganda isn't limited to lies.

What if they did not live until next year?

When was this planned? Was it spur of the moment?
 

Krusheasy

Still Not a Player
9,809
693
113
Joined
Jul 8, 2013
Location
Earth
Hoopla Cash
$ 474.55
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
"]
 
Last edited:

martinez

Well-Known Member
1,893
35
48
Joined
Jul 8, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Darkskins. same logo. also have badass looking black alternative jerseys.
other names - buccaneers, john redcorns, dark guys with painted faces but not quite as dark as black guys.. skins.
 

Stymietee

Well-Known Member
19,878
3,996
293
Joined
Aug 7, 2013
Location
DMV
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Darkskins. same logo. also have badass looking black alternative jerseys.
other names - buccaneers, john redcorns, dark guys with painted faces but not quite as dark as black guys.. skins.

I charge $175 per hour for therapeutic services.
 

skinsdad62

US ARMY retired /mod.
Supporting Member Level 3
102,984
19,936
1,033
Joined
Aug 7, 2011
Location
ada mi
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
its funny it should have had its own thread
 

Sharkinva

Well-Known Member
36,233
18,817
1,033
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The Supreme Court just ruled that the patent office does not have the right to deny a patent based on the idea that it might be found as disparaging to others as patents are also protected by the first amendment.

For those that arent legal argument savvy, this means in English, Dan gets to keep his patent on the team name and logo. So the change the name folks are likely back to going for the mass guilt approach in order to get the name changed, because getting the trademark revoked was likely the only way to legally force the team name change.
 

Ruzious

Well-Known Member
1,365
216
63
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
So sick of this discussion.
 

j_y19

ESPN Cast Off
12,223
2,398
173
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Funny how the main stream press is t reporting on this. They sure were all over it when the lower courts issued their rulings.
 
Top