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HaroldSeattle

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Two biggest needs for the Seahawks are LG (don't have one on the roster) and a X WR IMO. Most every draft has a plethora of WR and feel you can draft one at pick 50 or 52 and get a quality X WR. That's not the case for a LG as they just aren't many quality IOL in drafts and the best candidates get taken by mid to early 2nd round. OL was ranked 31st last year drafting a JAG or two isn't going to do much to improve it much, if at all. The JS syndrome is waiting on IOL and the results have been bad and in fact getting worse. Here how the Seahawks OL been ranked under JS:

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At some point (like this year) you would think JS would try something different. I feel like at the end of the season folks know the OL needs to be addressed, but as they study players they get crushes on players and start rationalizing waiting on IOL. It hasn't worked because unlike RBs or WRs their just isn't many quality OL in drafts and IOL there are even fewer sure fire starters. Yeah there are exceptions that are found late in drafts but that's like 1 in 20.
 
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Then who do you like at pick 50 or later at LG? Ratledge played exclusively at RG (has a bit of a injury history also). Banks would be good, but IDK if he will be still on the board, he's being mocked any where from top 10 to the end of round 1. Jackson and Zabel will be off board by pick 50.
I could see us trading down since OL is one of our top priorities... Trading down into the low mid twenties in the 1st to a team that may like a few of the TE's/WRs still on the board is a possibility... I personally like the idea of trading down into the first if Banks isn't there...
 

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Like the players but would still be lacking a player at LG. Try to convert a player who has only played on the right to LG?

Well we took Haynes last year who has been playing right guard since he was a sperm and didn't have him even active in some games, so it makes sense we'd take Ratledge and convert him to left guard even though he's only played right guard.. :thumb:
 

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How about this:

1) Banks
2) Revel
2b Tre Harris
3) Charles Grant
4) Demetruis Knight
5) Kyle Williams
5b) Cam'Ron Robinson
 

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Grant in the 3rd? Also what happened to the other 3rd or are you assuming we trade up for someone?

I like Banks more than Zabel frankly. Revel is enticing because he's a more physical Woolen. I haven't watched any footage and know nothing about Tre Harris (will research tomorrow):noidea:
 

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Grant in the 3rd? Also what happened to the other 3rd or are you assuming we trade up for someone?

I like Banks more than Zabel frankly. Revel is enticing because he's a more physical Woolen. I haven't watched any footage and know nothing about Tre Harris (will research tomorrow):noidea:
Yeah I missed that extra 3rd as I keep moving around who I wanted and where. Just spit balling here for shits and giggles.
 

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Yeah I missed that extra 3rd as I keep moving around who I wanted and where. Just spit balling here for shits and giggles.

Revel was also a top 30 visit. If Mac is just done with Woolen (due to lack of physicality) then I could easily see Revel in the 2nd. He tore his ACL last year so he may slip into the 3rd, but I don't think he'll be around by our 3rd round picks. Maybe we could use both 3rds and move up for him.

I think if Will Johnson falls past the Raiders he could slip a bit, and I could see Seattle making a play for him as well (trade up scenario) which would negate the need for Revel.

OL is obviously our biggest need but I can't dismiss that DL (Reed 33, D Law 33, Williams 31) and CB (Woolen 1 year left, nobody behind him) are quietly becoming a concern IMO. I know my draft scenario had Emmanwori (which I think is fair value late 1st) but I still don't consider safety that great of a need. I don't consider it for TE as well - where I've said we should trade up for Warren. I've truly morphed into John Schneider this year... with head scratching picks based on the needs of the team.

Anyway, all said, what's interesting is Seattle has not had a lot of visits with OL projected in the 1st or even 2nd round. We visited with Jared Wilson and that's about it. No Booker, no Jackson, no Ratledge, no Membou, no Banks, no Zabel...
 

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Anyway, all said, what's interesting is Seattle has not had a lot of visits with OL projected in the 1st or even 2nd round. We visited with Jared Wilson and that's about it. No Booker, no Jackson, no Ratledge, no Membou, no Banks, no Zabel...
i will not be shocked if they wait until the late 3rd or 4th to take OL, thats just who schneider is.
 

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i will not be shocked if they wait until the late 3rd or 4th to take OL, thats just who schneider is.
Quality or quantity, which will JS choose? He's a quantity kind of guy, but it hasn't work so hoping he tries quality for a change. It's hard to pass on glitz trendy players round one, TE's being the latest example. Not a Fant believer but he's making 13 million which is way more then he's worth but feel he would of been cut already if they were moving on from him. So I remain hopeful they go OL with pick 18.
 

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Two biggest needs for the Seahawks are LG (don't have one on the roster) and a X WR IMO. Most every draft has a plethora of WR and feel you can draft one at pick 50 or 52 and get a quality X WR. That's not the case for a LG as they just aren't many quality IOL in drafts and the best candidates get taken by mid to early 2nd round. OL was ranked 31st last year drafting a JAG or two isn't going to do much to improve it much, if at all. The JS syndrome is waiting on IOL and the results have been bad and in fact getting worse. Here how the Seahawks OL been ranked under JS:

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At some point (like this year) you would think JS would try something different. I feel like at the end of the season folks know the OL needs to be addressed, but as they study players they get crushes on players and start rationalizing waiting on IOL. It hasn't worked because unlike RBs or WRs their just isn't many quality OL in drafts and IOL there are even fewer sure fire starters. Yeah there are exceptions that are found late in drafts but that's like 1 in 20. 3 Ol drafted over that 15 year period in the 1st round...

The ironic thing is here are the 1st round draft picks we've had since 2010... See a similarity? 5 of those years, we didn't even have a 1st round pick... So basically over an 8 year span w/ no picks and poor draft choices, we landed with 1 or 2 ok players in Brooks/Ifedi whom are no longer w/ the team.. Ouch!

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i will not be shocked if they wait until the late 3rd or 4th to take OL, thats just who schneider is.

I mean that seems to be where most of their visits are coming from with OL.

They also seem 100% balls deep in this ZBS which I get, but my fear with that is it impacts who we draft and then if it doesn't work out we're stuck with it... instead of just taking the best OL.

Similar to my point to Harold.. I think in my draft I took DT/S off the board (with a TE in round 3) just because I think it's what Schneider will do lol. I kept my mock draft as realistic as possible :pound:
 

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Teams trying to trade down:


Steelers
Jaguar's
Panthers
49er's
Falcons
Seahawk's
Buc's
Viking's

Teams interested in moving up:

Bronco's

Looks like a buyers market.
 
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