Official 2025 Draft Talk Thread

[MrS]

I think Dart ends up being the best QB in this draft when its all said and done. But thats my opinion and that isn't worth anything. I saw a handfull of his games the past 2 years and just liked what i saw. He is a gamer, now just needs to continue to improve like he had been doing. When the talking heads were saying 3rd to 5th round durning the season i was like OH HELL YEAH lets grab this stud!

This could be the draft where no QB amounts to anything

 

[Screamin12th]

This could be the draft where no QB amounts to anything

Oh i agree but if one does i have a feeling it will be Dart. Sanders and Ward will be gimmick QB's. Both of them hold the ball way too long and tend to make most of their plays off schedule, They don't work will in a structured offense.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Oh i agree but if one does i have a feeling it will be Dart. Sanders and Ward will be gimmick QB's. Both of them hold the ball way too long and tend to make most of their plays off schedule, They don't work will in a structured offense.

Howard is prob. the best plug and play. He's IMO the most pro ready. From what I gathered he has a ceiling so you may just get an average 'game manager' QB, but build your team around him and you could do something. He's not a guy that is prob. going to takeover games but I think it's maybe kind of like Darnold/McCarthy in Minny. Surround him with some good talent and you should be able to put playoff run together down the stretch.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

According to the Athletic this is what the Seahawks fans want from the draft:

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Not sure I'm excited about Ewers, but otherwise love this draft.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Not sure I'm excited about Ewers, but otherwise love this draft.

Swap Ewers with a nose tackle and I'm happier. With Lock signing and Howell being as cheap as he is, I can't imagine Seattle goes for a QB here unless someone takes a dive.

I might be the only one to say this as well, I think that's a bit of overkill on the OL. I guess we're just giving up on Haynes and Olu? That's annoying especially since Haynes was an earlier 3rd rounder... wtf did we draft him for then? All he knows is ZBS wide, which is what we're running.

Also, I'd be fine with Zabel, whatever.. but I'd rather just have Booker. We need a mauler at guard and someone to literally get us 3rd or 4th and 1.. we prob. lost two games last year because our OL just couldn't push at all. I get we're balls deep in ZBS, but sorry - sometimes you just need a guy that can push someone back and tell your OL to stop being a bunch of pussies. That's Booker (or Membou which I'd be FINE to trade up for). And Booker is not going to be running 10 yards up the field, but he's got quickness in his step.


Perfect world for me, scenario 1: We trade up and get Membou.
Perfect world for me, scenario 2: We trade down only to move back up (not sacrificing too much capital) and end up with Egbuka and Booker. That's two instant LEADERS on the offense. I know Egbuka is a lot like Kupp/JSN (although JSN played on the outside fine), but so what? Kupp is prob. a 1 year rental and Egbuka's leadership/attitude is what Seattle's O needs.

 

[MrS]

According to the Athletic this is what the Seahawks fans want from the draft:

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i dont think there is any way they take 3 OL in the top 4 picks

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I just have this feeling if we take Zabel (great athleticism, good ZBS fit granted, but he's a bit more finesse) he'll get pushed around at times and we'll struggle to just move a DL. Meanwhile watch someone like the Ravens take Booker and just mow down DLs.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

i dont think there is any way they take 3 OL in the top 4 picks

I don't see it either, and frankly I think it's overkill. Starting 1 rookie at OL let alone 3 is insane... Olu wasn't HORRIBLE last year, and Haynes doesn't have the best bulk/size but he has very good ZBS technique.

I'm not a HUGE Zabel fan. I get he has great athleticism and quickness, I just see him potentially getting pushed around. Not at 18. If he's there at 50, fine. I mean if Seattle takes him at 18 I wont be upset.. but I'll be a little underwhelmed. If we take Booker at 18 (who I've always wanted) I'd be more excited - because now the probability of us getting stuffed on 3rd and 1 and then on 4th and inches (Rams game) goes down.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

since Haynes was an earlier 3rd rounder

Pick 81 which is not early 3rd, more like middle of the round.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Pick 81 which is not early 3rd, more like middle of the round.

Well fair, but still.. and Haynes actually fits what Kubiak wants to do. Should make him all the more a starter.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

i dont think there is any way they take 3 OL in the top 4 picks

Doesn't seem like a JS move for sure, but it is investing in the trenches which is what you say they should do.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I just have this feeling if we take Zabel (great athleticism, good ZBS fit granted, but he's a bit more finesse)

He's not finesse, he's physical as heck.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

He's not finesse, he's physical as heck.

I'm just not thrilled with it at 18. But again, I wont be upset. I'd be perfectly fine with it. It'd just be like a B-B+ grade to me.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I don't see it either, and frankly I think it's overkill. Starting 1 rookie at OL let alone 3 is insane.

It's one starter (at LG) and one to compete at RG with Haynes (who has ONLY played right guard his entire college career) and Laumea (7th round guy). Bradford is likely gone. Then a guy to compete at center where there is only a 5th round and a player that wasn't even drafted and only a handful of snaps last year.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

It's one starter (at LG) and one to compete at RG with Haynes (who has ONLY played right guard his entire college career) and Laumea (7th round guy). Bradford is likely gone. Then a guy to compete at center where there is only a 5th round and a player that wasn't even drafted and only a handful of snaps last year.

Again it's fine with Zabel. Throw him at left guard. 3 OL picks in the first 4 is overkill IMO.

I'd rather see a DL in there. DLaw is 33, Reed is 33, Williams is 31... Murphy plays too much at NT. We need some more rotation there. And I'm not ready to give up on Olu/Haynes just yet. We have nothing behind Knight/Jones. CB will be thin after this year (nothing behind Spoon/Woolen), WR is thin (granted that mock has Higgins). And I love Arroyo in the 3rd (or even 2nd) if he's there at TE. That gives us a 3 TE set or $9M rollover to next year (cut Fant).

And frankly with 5 picks in the top 92, I'd really like a trade up and have a higher shot/probability at a potential all pro in Membou or Warren. And I think Loveland/Egbuka is a better use of capital at 18 than Zabel.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Again it's fine with Zabel. Throw him at left guard. 3 OL picks in the first 4 is overkill IMO.

I'd rather see a DL in there. DLaw is 33, Reed is 33, Williams is 31... Murphy plays too much at NT. We need some more rotation there. And I'm not ready to give up on Olu/Haynes just yet. We have nothing behind Knight/Jones. CB will be thin after this year (nothing behind Spoon/Woolen), WR is thin (granted that mock has Higgins). And I love Arroyo in the 3rd (or even 2nd) if he's there at TE. That gives us a 3 TE set or $9M rollover to next year (cut Fant).

And frankly with 5 picks in the top 92, I'd really like a trade up and have a higher shot/probability at a potential all pro in Membou or Warren. And I think Loveland/Egbuka is a better use of capital at 18 than Zabel.

Seahawks OL was 31st in the league and all the IOL graded out poorly from LG to C to RG, Need better play inside across the board.

Seahawks need a big FAT DT to play nose, should be able to find that later in the draft.

Higgins in the second makes way more sense then a WR or TE round one as he's that X they need to replace Metcalf.

 

[MrS]

Doesn't seem like a JS move for sure, but it is investing in the trenches which is what you say they should do.

Its what they should do.
But Schneider is not going to do that, it would be completely out of character.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Seahawks OL was 31st in the league and all the IOL graded out poorly from LG to C to RG, Need better play inside across the board.

Seahawks need a big FAT DT to play nose, should be able to find that later in the draft.

Higgins in the second makes way more sense then a WR or TE round one as he's that X they need to replace Metcalf.

I mean agreed, but I don't think you need to go THAT overboard on OL. Seattle will have a TON of cap next year as well.

Again, I wouldn't be upset by Zabel or disappointed.. and if we take Higgins in the 2nd - eh fine. I just wouldn't be overjoyed. I'd rather see us use some draft capital to move up if possible (Warren/Membou, maybe even McMillan)... or move down and then move up to take two good late 1st/early 2nd prospects.

End of day I'd be happier with Booker and Egbuka which I think would cost the same as Zabel and Ratledge - if you can navigate the draft a bit.

And Booker/Egbuka have leadership qualities all over them. Something this O DESPERATELY needs because Kupp is about it (the D has it with Reed/Law/Love and just general respect for Big Cat... and MAYBE Witherspoon can develop some leadership traits a bit more).

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

And I guess where I get so hung up on Egbuka and Booker (and even Starks if you want a safety), it's just the leadership qualities. Zabel doesn't strike me as that.. he's an athletic OL and that's about it IMO. I want more than that with #18. Booker will be the better guard end of day.

I want guys here who want to win, and who are not going to stand for guys laughing on the sidelines but also have the personality and confidence to flat out say not being able to get two < 1 yard conversions in a row, is ridiculous. It takes a certain person to be able to do that. You're here to do a fuckin' job as a professional and in being paid more than 99% of the population ever will be on a job that 1 in a million will ever have the opportunity to do.

A coach can only do so much, eventually it HAS to be handled by the locker room. Ideally you get a HOF QB who isn't bitch boy Rodgers and then all your leadership problems are solved, but that's a low chance of happening.

And it was the reason I COMPLETELY disagreed with Waltfootball and a number of analysts knocking Seattle for Kupp and D Law. Those two are leaders, and this team DESPERATELY needs it right now. DK wasn't a leader. He was a mopey whiny little bitch. No wonder Seattle shipped him. And Geno had his fair share of moping as well. He's tough, I'll give him that.. but he didn't inspire anyone.