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Agreed TE is lowest on the list of needs. O-line is a must at 1.18

If we can snag Jenkins on Monday that'd be great. Jenkins is a better zone blocker than Fries. That would fill a big hole. If we do that I'd be more comfortable passing on an OL in the 1st as long as we look at that position in the 2nd round and it would be someone to play tackle in the event Lucas never returns to form. The only 'hole' IMO you have is WR... If you gave me Cross, Jenkins, Olu, Haynes, Lucas to start the season? I'm good with that.

What's funny is some folks have been saying Haynes at Center and I'm completely baffled by that. First off, Haynes has only ever played right guard in his life.. second, he was a good right guard for the Huskies in a wide ZBS which is exactly what we're running. "He's not strong enough" well duh, in a ZBS you don't have to be.. you have to move quickly laterally and basically 'hold' your man. That's what he does well. Grubb didn't know how to do a run game or ZBS to save his life. Third, Olu did okay last year. He was a bit of an above average starter. Give him a chance. Least he wasn't snapping balls over Genos head 24/7.... didn't help we had Grubb's dumbass college offense out there.

Anyway, I see zero reason why you can't march Haynes out there. Olu is not a great ZBS player, but he's young, you can teach him - and if you get Jenkins (or Donovan Jackson in the draft to play LG, gonna take an early 2nd to get him) then you got him surrounded by two good ZBS guards. Cross is at this point an elite left tackle (yah I went there - that'll be a huge contract next year, it was good to clear the books when we did). He'll do whatever you need.

If Jenkins leaves... yah, you kind of have to target a guard early on. And Donovan Jackson is what I'd love if we can trade back to a late 1st or early 2nd (or trade up, hey we have draft ammo now). That would be a day 1 plug and play draft pick in this scheme at left guard. I don't like the idea of it, I'd rather have Jenkins, but its what it is at that point.
 
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If we can snag Jenkins on Monday that'd be great. Jenkins is a better zone blocker than Fries. That would fill a big hole. If we do that I'd be more comfortable passing on an OL in the 1st as long as we look at that position in the 2nd round and it would be someone to play tackle in the event Lucas never returns to form. The only 'hole' IMO you have is WR... If you gave me Cross, Jenkins, Olu, Haynes, Lucas to start the season? I'm good with that.

What's funny is some folks have been saying Haynes at Center and I'm completely baffled by that. First off, Haynes has only ever played right guard in his life.. second, he was a good right guard for the Huskies in a wide ZBS which is exactly what we're running. "He's not strong enough" well duh, in a ZBS you don't have to be.. you have to move quickly laterally and basically 'hold' your man. That's what he does well. Grubb didn't know how to do a run game or ZBS to save his life. Third, Olu did okay last year. He was a bit of an above average starter. Give him a chance. Least he wasn't snapping balls over Genos head 24/7.... didn't help we had Grubb's dumbass college offense out there.

Anyway, I see zero reason why you can't march Haynes out there. Olu is not a great ZBS player, but he's young, you can teach him - and if you get Jenkins (or Donovan Jackson in the draft to play LG, gonna take an early 2nd to get him) then you got him surrounded by two good ZBS guards. Cross is at this point an elite left tackle (yah I went there - that'll be a huge contract next year, it was good to clear the books when we did). He'll do whatever you need.

If Jenkins leaves... yah, you kind of have to target a guard early on. And Donovan Jackson is what I'd love if we can trade back to a late 1st or early 2nd (or trade up, hey we have draft ammo now). That would be a day 1 plug and play draft pick in this scheme at left guard. I don't like the idea of it, I'd rather have Jenkins, but its what it is at that point.
If this becomes true, I do agree with you that our o-line is off to a good start.
 

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Scouting Report: Strengths​

  • Length for days and knows how to use it - consistently disrupts passing lanes and bullies receivers at the line with a mean streak that shows up on every press rep.
  • Raw athleticism jumps off the screen - that 4.40 speed isn't just combine numbers, it shows up when he's running stride for stride with receivers down the boundary.
  • Transition game is butter smooth for a tall corner - drops his hips and changes direction like someone four inches shorter, which is rare for a 6'3" defender.
  • Special teams demon who approaches gunner duties like he's shot out of a cannon - blocked kicks prove he's not just out there to fill a roster spot.
  • Recovery speed is elite - even when he loses a step, he's got that extra gear to close the gap and make receivers uncomfortable at the catch point.
  • Physical mentality shows up in run support - not content to just cover, he'll come downhill and strike with bad intentions against the run game.
  • Ball skills improved dramatically from 2022 to 2023 - started trusting his length and timing to make plays at the apex of routes.
  • Football IQ shows up in pattern matching - recognition skills developed rapidly once he got starting reps, showing natural feel for route combinations.


Scouting Report: Weaknesses​

  • Only one year of high-level production before the ACL injury - limited sample size will make some teams nervous despite the obvious physical tools.
  • Can get grabby when he loses leverage - drew more flags than you'd like to see, needs to trust his recovery ability instead of panicking.
  • Zone coverage instincts still developing - occasionally loses track of crossing routes when passing off receivers in quarters coverage.
  • Medical evaluation will be crucial - September 2024 ACL tear means he'll likely miss crucial pre-draft process and possibly start of rookie year.
  • Takes some unnecessary risks jumping routes - aggression is mostly good but can lead to big plays when he guesses wrong.
 

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Not a big fan of a DB in the 1st round. Far bigger needs at OL/DL, and that makes DBs better. Woolen is also in a contract year. He seemed at times like he just didn't care about football last year, but see what you can get out of him for another year. Jobe also did some good stuff last year and I don't want to give up on Pritchett yet.
 

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Not a big fan of a DB in the 1st round. Far bigger needs at OL/DL, and that makes DBs better. Woolen is also in a contract year. He seemed at times like he just didn't care about football last year, but see what you can get out of him for another year. Jobe also did some good stuff last year and I don't want to give up on Pritchett yet.
Love guys in contract years...
 

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Mel kiper has seahawks taking S at 18, emmanwori. Will not be surprised if that is the pick.
 

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Mel kiper has seahawks taking S at 18, emmanwori. Will not be surprised if that is the pick.

He was the guy i wanted back when the season started, That 3rd safety and a big body one that can play in the box. I think he is going to be a special player. He is a talented safety that we all should be happy if we land him but i feel some will be upset because if its not a Guard/Olineman its not worth taking. lol
 

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He was the guy i wanted back when the season started, That 3rd safety and a big body one that can play in the box. I think he is going to be a special player. He is a talented safety that we all should be happy if we land him but i feel some will be upset because if its not a Guard/Olineman its not worth taking. lol
It'll be nice to have a third safety while our QB gets destroyed behind a Swiss cheese OL.

Daniel Jeremiah has them taking the TE from michigan.
 

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Meeting with Tyler shough
Dude is 25 years old already
 

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I mean Emmanwori at 18... bleh. But that better mean Donovan Jackson (good zone blocker, true LG) at a trade up in the 2nd. Still no word from Jenkins... apparently the visit was delayed.. :L

I don't even know how we afford him with Darnold getting $37.5M this year. Seattle may just be looking at a maybe wild card playoff team this year and then going balls deep in 2026 where they will have tons of cap. Maybe the goal is to kill Darnold by midseason.. *shrugs*
 

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It'll be nice to have a third safety while our QB gets destroyed behind a Swiss cheese OL.

Daniel Jeremiah has them taking the TE from michigan.

Its ok its only Sam Darnold. You sound like you believe this is a superbowl team with Oline help BWAHAHAHA! Sam Darnold is a sacrifice to the football gods as the Hawks 2 2nd round and 1 3rd round olineman learn how to play. The other 2 picks in rounds 1-3 are a safety and a TE. lol

Macdonald does like size speed combo safeties.
 
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Its ok its only Sam Darnold. You sound like you believe this is a superbowl team with Oline help BWAHAHAHA! Sam Darnold is a sacrifice to the football gods as the Hawks 2 2nd round and 1 3rd round olineman learn how to play. The other 2 picks in rounds 1-3 are a safety and a TE. lol

Macdonald does like size speed combo safeties.

I doubt they take an OL before round 3. They like who they have and are still scraping the bottom of the barrel in FA
 

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I doubt they take an OL before round 3. They like who they have and are still scraping the bottom of the barrel in FA


Yeah I heard what JS said and about "we like who they have" ... ok ... strange. I puked a little. Now after saying that, last year i did see moments where the line held up like CRAZY! Now if they can do it for more than 2-5 times a game is the question. Sorry JS i do not believe your sweet talking BS. He makes a poor salesman. Guess we will see if they fired the wrong person this coming season. lol
 

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I doubt they take an OL before round 3. They like who they have and are still scraping the bottom of the barrel in FA
They do say they like the guys on the team, and keeps talking about how they need to do a better job "developing" the players on the OL. In other words it's the coaching not poor evaluations by JS. I still think they step up a take a OL round one. JS knows there is a storm brewing over a poor OL.
 

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They do say they like the guys on the team, and keeps talking about how they need to do a better job "developing" the players on the OL. In other words it's the coaching not poor evaluations by JS. I still think they step up a take a OL round one. JS knows there is a storm brewing over a poor OL.

If the Oline is crap this coming season they will just fire their Oline coach again and throw them under the bus.
 

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They do say they like the guys on the team, and keeps talking about how they need to do a better job "developing" the players on the OL. In other words it's the coaching not poor evaluations by JS. I still think they step up a take a OL round one. JS knows there is a storm brewing over a poor OL.
I want to be wrong
 

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He was the guy i wanted back when the season started, That 3rd safety and a big body one that can play in the box. I think he is going to be a special player. He is a talented safety that we all should be happy if we land him but i feel some will be upset because if its not a Guard/Olineman its not worth taking. lol
If premium O-line/d-line guys are off the board and nothing but day 2 guys then I'm good with adding this safety
 
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