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Official 2025 Draft Talk Thread

JMR

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I'm liking the opportunity to sign, Kupp more and more...
It makes a lot of sense. He's an accomplished vet who probably won't cost a ton, and you can lean on him a bit until whatever WR you draft next month is ready to take on a bigger role. Kupp could be a 1 or 2-year seat warmer for sure.
 

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I mean with how active we've been in free agency, I assume that's what they're counting on. Draft OG/OT/S/WR/EDGE in the first 5 picks and hit on 4/5... and then get another DB and DL in round 4-7 and assume they are average.

lmao... that's stupidly unrealistic... I mean if that happens yah, you just built a Super Bowl team... but the probability of that is SUPER low if not unheard of.
In theory R1 to R3 picks should be starters. R4 should be good role players and R5 thru R7 is a crap shoot.

I'll even take 3 starters hopefully 1 on the o-line and 2 good roll players.
 

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Donovan Jackson I do like. Athleticism off the charts and fits ZBS very well at left guard. I don't think he is a #18 overall guy, but he could go early 2nd round. Trading back in the 1st to snag him (or trading up in the 2nd) could be a thing.

I still think Haynes will 100% start at right guard. He's the definition of a ZBS right guard... that's what he was drafted to do lol. And Grubb just wanted power formations lol.
 

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Donovan Jackson I do like. Athleticism off the charts and fits ZBS very well at left guard. I don't think he is a #18 overall guy, but he could go early 2nd round. Trading back in the 1st to snag him (or trading up in the 2nd) could be a thing.

I still think Haynes will 100% start at right guard. He's the definition of a ZBS right guard... that's what he was drafted to do lol. And Grubb just wanted power formations lol.
Donovan Jackson and or Grey Zabel look like fits for Seahawks blocking schemes. Both are considered early second possibly late first picks and pick 18 seems a bit of a reach for either, but both likely off the board by the time the Seahawks pick next. The zone blocking scheme is going to make it harder to find blockers in the draft it seems. Will Seahawks gamble that one of these two drop to them in the second? Or will they pay the toll to move up and grab them (likely be expensive). Or will they just go ahead and use pick 18 for one of them? I find the problem worrisome because JS likes to be conservative, and waiting and hoping one makes to them in the second seems like a JS thing. Maybe that works out or maybe the Seahawks find themselves screwed once again.
 

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Donovan Jackson and or Grey Zabel look like fits for Seahawks blocking schemes. Both are considered early second possibly late first picks and pick 18 seems a bit of a reach for either, but both likely off the board by the time the Seahawks pick next. The zone blocking scheme is going to make it harder to find blockers in the draft it seems. Will Seahawks gamble that one of these two drop to them in the second? Or will they pay the toll to move up and grab them (likely be expensive). Or will they just go ahead and use pick 18 for one of them? I find the problem worrisome because JS likes to be conservative, and waiting and hoping one makes to them in the second seems like a JS thing. Maybe that works out or maybe the Seahawks find themselves screwed once again.
Taking one of those two at 18 means passing on a player that they rate much higher and don't see that happening.
A trade down seems unlikely too since they have a crazy number of picks.
A trade up for the first time... Ever? They have the ammo to get a guy they really like.
Tyler warren maybe? Emanwori if they think he gets taken high?
 

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Donovan Jackson and or Grey Zabel look like fits for Seahawks blocking schemes. Both are considered early second possibly late first picks and pick 18 seems a bit of a reach for either, but both likely off the board by the time the Seahawks pick next. The zone blocking scheme is going to make it harder to find blockers in the draft it seems. Will Seahawks gamble that one of these two drop to them in the second? Or will they pay the toll to move up and grab them (likely be expensive). Or will they just go ahead and use pick 18 for one of them? I find the problem worrisome because JS likes to be conservative, and waiting and hoping one makes to them in the second seems like a JS thing. Maybe that works out or maybe the Seahawks find themselves screwed once again.

I would say the best option is trade down to grab one of them. Course you gotta find a trade partner. Maybe you get an extra 3rd or a 2026 3rd.

Christian Haynes came from a wide ZBS scheme, so he should fit in fine. Cross will be fine whatever he is asked to do. The concern with the ZBS scheme we're going to run is Olu, because he's not really equipped for that. But you can't address it all. Tevin Jenkins is still available and a good zone blocker. We prob. still have about $15M in cap AFTER rookies/injury room, etc. despite all our signings... so it's possible.
 

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Taking one of those two at 18 means passing on a player that they rate much higher and don't see that happening.
A trade down seems unlikely too since they have a crazy number of picks.
A trade up for the first time... Ever? They have the ammo to get a guy they really like.
Tyler warren maybe? Emanwori if they think he gets taken high?

Trading up for Warren or Emmanwori...

I can MAYBE get behind Emmanwori because it's Mac and he has his 3 safety system (but Love/Bryant played well, although Love isn't getting younger) so at least I KIND of get the strategy there. And Hamilton brought the Ravens D together with how he wants to scheme. If D Law even comes back at 85% of 2023 and Nwosu just stays healthy, and we were to draft Emmanwori - Seattle's defense looks terrifying in 2025. Emmanwori also fills a bit of lack of depth at ILB because he might as well fuckin' be one (to a lesser extent, not hugely physical like Spoon, but D Law/Spoon/Reed/Big Cat can whip him into shape) except he is great in coverage.

If we do some trade for Warren I might lose my shit because IMO Fant and Barner are PERFECTLY fine at the moment and we have the cap room to keep Fant, especially while plugging in a new system. Seattle hasn't proven they can use a TE correctly since the Holgmren era. Prove it to me first with two perfectly suitable tight ends on the roster. If Warren is there at 18 and you can release Fant to sign someone else on the OL/DL or safety, fine. Or hell roll over $9M (the savings) to next year.

This draft is also SOLID at WR/IOL and NT in the middle rounds. It's a good draft to have 2 2nds and 2 3rds in. And our 4th is LATE (compensatory). Trade down is perfectly within reason and we have holes at: WR, G, possibly C (Olu doesn't fit ZBS), RT (don't trust Lucas), NT, S (at least the 3rd option), and possibly EDGE/3 tech all over again. I know we just took Murphy, but Williams is 31, Reed is 33, D Law is 33... these guys aren't getting younger and you need rotational depth and up and comers to replace them. Those guys are on their likely last fruitful contracts.

We do not at the moment, have a hole at tight end. If he drops to 18 and is BPA, fine, I can stomach it.. but there will likely be another BPA available at a greater position of need, or a trade down to build up the trenches.
 
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I would say the best option is trade down to grab one of them.
Yeah but you need a trade partner and is there a reason for a team to want to make the move up to 18? Maybe if say Dart is still on the board.
. The concern with the ZBS scheme we're going to run is Olu, because he's not really equipped for that.
Seahawks seem enamored with Sundell who may compete for the center job.
 

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Yeah but you need a trade partner and is there a reason for a team to want to make the move up to 18? Maybe if say Dart is still on the board.

Seahawks seem enamored with Sundell who may compete for the center job.

Sundell would fit what Kubiak wants to do, for sure. I mean Haynes/Sundell and Jackson would fit exactly what Kubiak wants. Cross is plug/play (too good)... we're certainly not doing the tush push with that line, though lol.

As for the trade partner, totally get it... always easier said than done to say 'trade down' or 'trade up'... gotta find a partner.
 

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BTW, I saw this on Fieldgulls. Our 2021 draft

1st round: Traded for Jamal Adams (currently out of the league)
2nd round: Dee Eskridge (currently an unsigned free agent)
3rd round: Traded for Jamal Adams
4th round: Tre Brown (signed with San Francisco 49ers)
5th round: Gabe Jackson (cut in 2023, out of the league)
6th round: Stone Forsythe (signed with New York Giants)
7th round: Traded for move up to get Stone Forsythe

To be fair, this was the last draft that I felt the team was trying to outsmart the league and since this draft they have stuck to consensus choices a lot more.

But wow was this draft terrible. Zero players still on the team. Only 2 of those players still in the league and neither one is a notably effective player.
 

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BTW, I saw this on Fieldgulls. Our 2021 draft

1st round: Traded for Jamal Adams (currently out of the league)
2nd round: Dee Eskridge (currently an unsigned free agent)
3rd round: Traded for Jamal Adams
4th round: Tre Brown (signed with San Francisco 49ers)
5th round: Gabe Jackson (cut in 2023, out of the league)
6th round: Stone Forsythe (signed with New York Giants)
7th round: Traded for move up to get Stone Forsythe

To be fair, this was the last draft that I felt the team was trying to outsmart the league and since this draft they have stuck to consensus choices a lot more.

But wow was this draft terrible. Zero players still on the team. Only 2 of those players still in the league and neither one is a notably effective player.

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I didn't need to see that list today, flyer... lol.
 

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BTW, I saw this on Fieldgulls. Our 2021 draft

1st round: Traded for Jamal Adams (currently out of the league)
2nd round: Dee Eskridge (currently an unsigned free agent)
3rd round: Traded for Jamal Adams
4th round: Tre Brown (signed with San Francisco 49ers)
5th round: Gabe Jackson (cut in 2023, out of the league)
6th round: Stone Forsythe (signed with New York Giants)
7th round: Traded for move up to get Stone Forsythe

To be fair, this was the last draft that I felt the team was trying to outsmart the league and since this draft they have stuck to consensus choices a lot more.

But wow was this draft terrible. Zero players still on the team. Only 2 of those players still in the league and neither one is a notably effective player.

points of correction - Eskridge signed with Miami - 5th was traded for Jackson not used to select Jackson. So, while not good - all three "selections" are still in the league.

Otherwise, all is fine.
 

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points of correction - Eskridge signed with Miami - 5th was traded for Jackson not used to select Jackson. So, while not good - all three "selections" are still in the league.

Otherwise, all is fine.

I don't think Gabe Jackson is in the league still.
 
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