Sharkinva
Well-Known Member
No, it's not my intention to fight but to convey what I believe are pretty cogent arguments supporting my point of view. You keep going back to the issue of rule violations. I've already conceded that Brady was guilty. What I'd submit you don't get is how that mattered and, more significantly, speculation can't masquerade as logic and how larger issues of widespread violative conduct can't be ignored when meting out punishment against Brady. You and dad whiff big time on those issues and others.
I'm not going to go over, once again, the distinction between violation and determining what violation is appropriate to remedy the violation. More fundamentally, you haven't adduced any argument supporting your view why a quarter-season suspension somehow fits this violation. This is especially true given the points regarding the outcome determinative nature of the violations and the fact that just about everyone else does it. And to answer your question, the reason why everyone else does it is to try and get whatever competitive advantage they can. This is not to say that this will change a game's result in any way and provides the reason why this punishment is flawed. And that's because if everyone else does it, that's a fundamentally good reason to limit the penalty against Brady. Somehow, these very salient and overaching points elude you -- and dad. Also probative is the point dad just made in his last point about other factors playing into the result of a game. That simply strengthens my side of the debate here. It's almost nonsensical to argue with someone that can't see these points.
Almost every one speeds at some point. So the DMV should simple dismiss ALL speeding violations because every one does it, or just start sending out tickets to every licensed driver in the country.
The fact is Brady cheated, got caught. And 4 games and a first rounder is a slap on the wrist for an organization that has repeatedly cheated in some way shape or form.